Once its sold.........its SOLD!

Sugar_and_Spice said:
I'm another who doesn't understand why people expect to stay in close contact with a new owner once they've sold the horse. :confused3: It's weird. If someone can't let go emotionally then don't sell it.
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Some of us don't have a choice Sugar and Spice - I had to sell my horse for financial reasons, it was one of the hardest things I have done and has not been helped by finding out last week that the girl who bought him - who had promised him a home for life - has sold him on only 5 months later. Had she contacted me I would have found a way to buy him back.
 
I agree with shysmum. Its up to the individuals in each case.
Thats the point I was trying to make. Badly I might add :-D
 
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The owners of horses I've sold have all been lovely human beings and seemed to be delighted to give updates. I never interfere but like to know that they're ok. I ask for first refusal if sold on because I'd hate to think that a horse I once cared for, had fallen on hard times.
Telling the truth when you sell enables you to keep a relationship going on an occasional basis.
 
I've kept in contact with the girl my horse was sold too; I didn't sell her my evil ex step dad did, broke my heart to find her gone when I came back from a school trip. However the Horse was sold about 8years ago and her 'new owner' often Facebook/text each other, I even had the horse back last winter as her owner was busy with a new job. I pop down with no warning a few times a year and sometimes I'll leave her a present new headcollar/rug/stable name plate, all of which has been lovely. Her owner even pops up to me every now and again, we used to see each other at shows and even did a few pairs xc.
The horse is now 30 and has got a tumour in her eye so her days are short, her owner called me to see if I could be there with her vet, and although fine ATM we will both be with her when she is put to sleep.
Her owner refers to the horse as both of ours which is amazing. I couldn't of asked for more espically given how she was sold
 
Shysmum said:
But isn't it up to the seller and the new owner ? Everyone is different.
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Exactly!

Ned's previous owner can see all the updates and is welcome to ask me anything about him (she's a good friend though)

His first owner, however...no. Now I know what she did to him, she will NEVER hear a thing about him.
I added the woman who tried to save him from the first owners tortures on facebook and she can see all the updates I post. It gives me great pleasure to update her and YO who had him before me, as I know they both love him a huge amount.

Annie's old owner is also a friend and she knows everything that's going on, same with Cookie.
I really don't see a problem, if both parties are ok with it.
 
Sugar_and_Spice said:
I'm another who doesn't understand why people expect to stay in close contact with a new owner once they've sold the horse. :confused3: It's weird. If someone can't let go emotionally then don't sell it.
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This is a bit harsh. Some people have to sell horse's for whatever reason i.e. family issues, health, financial etc. doesn't mean they don't care what happens. They are trying to do what best for the horse even if it's not what the owner wants
 
I kept in contact via FB with the people I sold my first pony to so would see photos etc but I would never intervene unless asked. Bless them they took the time out to keep me updated about how she was going and the events she was doing and asked me to come watch on some occasions. Then when she went ill with liver poisioning they told me and then phoned me to tell me when they had her PTS. I didnt expect them to do this but they knew how special she was to me.

Personally I would send the odd update, but I dont see how having small amounts of contact is a problem.
 
This thread looks to be a blatent dig at the other one..
I keep in touch with previous owners and new owners of horses I sell, only intermittently, through fbook for example. It's reassuring for sellers and buyers as they can see then that you are genuine. Frequent calls or visits would be rather too much though. But if both parties are happy then I don't suppose there's a problem really.
 
Don't know what's rattled your cage OP but I don't see the big deal..

As long as both sides agree then so what? Some people like knowing how a horse they loved is getting on, hardly crime of the century.
 
I don't know why people think my cage is rattled- haven't they read the thread properly before posting? I don't see anything bad about keeping in contact- indeed, I do with some of mine-as long as the NEW owner agrees. BUT if the NEW OWNER doesn't want to, ITS UP TO THEM. And they are under no obligation to tell previous owners if they decide to sell the horse on..... I just think its unrealistic that so many people seem to think the current owners of their sold-on horses SHOULD keep in contact and are offended if they don't.......
 
stormox said:
I don't know why people think my cage is rattled- haven't they read the thread properly before posting? I don't see anything bad about keeping in contact- indeed, I do with some of mine-as long as the NEW owner agrees. BUT if the NEW OWNER doesn't want to, ITS UP TO THEM. And they are under no obligation to tell previous owners if they decide to sell the horse on..... I just think its unrealistic that so many people seem to think the current owners of their sold-on horses SHOULD keep in contact and are offended if they don't.......
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It is obviously down to the new owner if contact continues in any form but if the new owners agree to contact at the time of purchase, something which is frequently discussed when I buy or sell, then choose to ignore attempts by the seller to just have a few words by text or email occasionally then that is unfair and can mean they have purchased under false pretenses.
I currently have a livery for sale, the owner is abroad and cannot realistically keep him, loaning was considered but in the circumstances it would be hard to keep checking on his wellbeing so he is being sold, I have clearly told every caller that contact will be expected plus the possibility of a visit and everyone has been very happy to agree to this, if they reneged I would feel dreadful as if I had not found the right home so I will get something in writing on the receipt when he sells.
 
I would happily keep in touch if they wanted me to and visitation at my invitation not because they demand it.
I don't think I would buy off someone who demanded to visit.
If I were loaning a horse no problem but if I am buying it no
 
I bought a horse off a fellow forum member who I now class as a friend. She gets regular updates, and I've been told off once or twice for asking permission to do things with him!

Having never sold a horse, I can't comment from the other side, but mine are my babies, and I think, if I "had" to sell for any reason, I would hate not to know what is happening in their lives.
 
Lady who bought a pony from me 2 years ago very kindly E-mails me updates on the little tike and I forward them to his breeder. It's just lovely to know a pony you have loved very much is thriving with his current owner.
 
Donnie Darco it isn't a bitch thread, she stated her opinion and I agree with her, when you sell an animal , you have no longer have any say what the new owner wants to with said animal, otherwise why sell said animal?
 
I like to know if they are getting on well.. I'm friends with my horse's old owners on facebook so they can see updates whenever.
 
stormox said:
I don't know why people think my cage is rattled- haven't they read the thread properly before posting? I don't see anything bad about keeping in contact- indeed, I do with some of mine-as long as the NEW owner agrees. BUT if the NEW OWNER doesn't want to, ITS UP TO THEM. And they are under no obligation to tell previous owners if they decide to sell the horse on..... I just think its unrealistic that so many people seem to think the current owners of their sold-on horses SHOULD keep in contact and are offended if they don't.......
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It was a clear dig at the other thread, you even said about the rug in your OP. It was unkind and unnecessary IMO.
 
stormox said:
I just think its unrealistic that so many people seem to think the current owners of their sold-on horses SHOULD keep in contact and are offended if they don't.......
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Except when there is a sales contract stating that they will. The buyers of my youngstock sign a contract that they will send me a confo sales quality photo once a year.
 
But you have a contract for your youngstock that you sell, is it the same if you sell your old mares etc:- I don't expect pervious owners to keep tags on how I treat MY HORSE/PONY, that I paid and bought the animal in good faith and to be honest they would get short shrift from me, as they didn't have to sell said animal they could have kept, if you bred animals, I take you want to sell on??
 
stormox said:
But how would that work if they sold the horse? or does it say you'll be given 1st refusal?
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All of the buyers of my youngstock have always let me know if they are selling. I do ask them to but they're under no obligation to, however I've never had any buyer not do this. My contract is purely with the buyer though, so if/when they do sell on and the new owner doesn't want to send photos then so be it but again I've always been lucky with the new buyers in that they have also been perfectly happy to pass on photos to me :smile3:
 
Echo Bravo said:
But you have a contract for your youngstock that you sell, is it the same if you sell your old mares etc:- I don't expect pervious owners to keep tags on how I treat MY HORSE/PONY, that I paid and bought the animal in good faith and to be honest they would get short shrift from me, as they didn't have to sell said animal they could have kept, if you bred animals, I take you want to sell on??
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I'm not interested in keeping tags. I'm interested in keeping my mares portfolios up to date. Never had any problems from any buyers of my youngstock not wanting to gloat over the horses I've bred :smile3: And I would never sell to someone who gave me the impression of 'giving me short shrift'.
 
And no I certainly had no idea about any mental health problems of anyone until I just read Echo Bravo's post. And I wasn't being bitchy about that thread- it was just one of many threads about people looking for their long-sold horses, or complaining that the new owners hadn't contacted them......
 
I keep in contact with my baby mares previous owner, simply to update her on our progress. I've tried to find the old owner of my older lad to no avail. So sometimes contact is welcome.
 
Echo Bravo said:
If you are breeding animals to sell on, there for you have no rights about what the new owners want to with their purchase or you should not be breeding said animals?
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Oh I sure do. I don't sell to people I don't like or people I don't think will take my youngstock to where I would like to see them. I sell every youngster with a promotion contract. When clients are paying 10k for a weanling foal they're usually looking to go somewhere with these horses and all of my buyers are friends with me on FB me and tag me in every photo they post of the youngsters I've bred.
 
I would not have a problem with any of my horses previous owners keeping in touch (which they do) and equally if I sold them I would love to occasionally hear they were getting on okay. Don't see what the harm is.
 
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