One for the colour geeks

[LittleBlackMule]

This is my American miniature, and I’ve never really known what colour to call her. She’s still got the remains of her winter coat here which makes her more coffee coloured, her summer coat is more silver.
Her eyes are like nothing else I’ve seen, like snowglobes.

 

[LittleBlackMule]

This was her at 6 months

 

[toppedoff]

oh, shes lovely!!!

 

[PurBee]

I have no idea what colour she’d be officially called, but just wanted to say she’s stunning! Such a wonderful little beauty I’ve always harboured a secret desire for a herd of american mini’s!

 

[Barton Bounty]

She is soooo gorgeous

 

[Cloball]

I'm a bit stumped. The eyes look like champagne to me so maybe a golden champagne. But they tend to look more palomino rather than buff. Maybe silver on an amber champagne but that seems like an awful lot doing on . The dorsal doesn't look to continue into the tail so I don't think she's a true dun.

 

[blitznbobs]

Could it be dun plus a dilute on a chestnut base colour?

 

[Palindrome]

She looks like classic champagne (champagne on a black coat base) to me. She even has the freckled skin around the eyes as described in this article :

Champagne gene - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Cloball]

She would need to have silver with classic champagne to give the white mane but I agree I think that it's most likely. A_E_Ch_ZZ

 

[Palindrome]

She would need to have silver with classic champagne to give the white mane but I agree I think that it's most likely. A_E_Ch_ZZ

Yes, I think it could also be mushroom instead of silver:

Mushroom | Veterinary Genetics Laboratory

Mushroom is a dilute coat color found in Shetland Ponies that results in a distinctive “sepia” toned coat, often accompanied by a flaxen mane and tail.

vgl.ucdavis.edu

In this case might not be classic champagne but something red based (gold champagne?) combined with mushroom.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

This is my American miniature, and I’ve never really known what colour to call her. She’s still got the remains of her winter coat here which makes her more coffee coloured, her summer coat is more silver.
Her eyes are like nothing else I’ve seen, like snowglobes.

I thought silver dun , then i googled and my instinct thought ah yes find a picture and I found this one.

 

[Cloball]

Silver dun alone wouldn't give the pale eyes and would have darker points.

 

[LittleBlackMule]

She’s passported as silver dapple, but she doesn’t look like any silver dapple that I’ve seen. It doesn’t explain the coffee coloured skin and hooves.

 

[ester]

Id say she was just silver black, are you on fb, one of them has a very good minis person who posts and is very good with their slightly unusual expressions of their genetics.

 

[Gloi]

My first thought was blue dun silver dapple plus cr or maybe another dilute gene

 

[LittleBlackMule]

Id say she was just silver black, are you on fb, one of them has a very good minis person who posts and is very good with their slightly unusual expressions of their genetics.

Yes I am, what group is that please?

 

[skint.spotty]

she's not champagne, eyes and skin aren't right, I think probably just silver on a black base - the dorsal looks to be nd1, not true dun.

 

[ester]

Yes I am, what group is that please?

equine color genetics, lewella is the minis person

Equine color genetics | Facebook

Equine Color Genetics has been created with the express purpose of giving all equestrians a place to receive and share their knowledge about equine color genetics. This group is to be kept on topic...

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[FinnishLapphund]

Do you know her parents colours? If it's Champagne affecting her colour, according to what it says in Palindrome's link, at least one of her parents must also be Champagne. If you get the correct answer, please update us.

Is it possible her eyes are Blue Amber?
Or Green?

I'm not suggesting that this is her "real" colour, without more wanted to share as an example, this is said to be a Silver Grullo with both Silver Dapple, Dun Factor, and Cream genes:

Whatever colour your miniature is, she's very pretty!

 

[Lois Lame]

... but that seems like an awful lot doing on .

It wouldn't surprise me if there was an awful lot going on.

 

[LittleBlackMule]

Do you know her parents colours? If it's Champagne affecting her colour, according to what it says in Palindrome's link, at least one of her parents must also be Champagne. If you get the correct answer, please update us.

Is it possible her eyes are Blue Amber?
Or Green?

I'm not suggesting that this is her "real" colour, without more wanted to share as an example, this is said to be a Silver Grullo with both Silver Dapple, Dun Factor, and Cream genes:

Whatever colour your miniature is, she's very pretty!

Her dam is silver dapple, her sire silver bay.
Her eyes are bizarre, sort of pale gold but with massive pupils making them look darker.

 

[LittleBlackMule]

This is her sire

 

[FinnishLapphund]

This is her sire
View attachment 114074

I wonder if it's possible one of them have been classified wrong, e.g. if he isn't a Silver bay, without perhaps a Chocolate palomino like this stallion:

 

[ester]

The ear rims say he is bay