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naid pollyanna

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I have out an offer in for a 15.1 2 year old filly. Have watche her trot up myself and am good friends with seller. At the vetting today three things were picked up. First was her wolf teeth coming theough(didn't concern me) second was a possible sarcoid on the elbow which I obviously treatable, and lastly was a very very slight lameness behind on a straight line. Could this be due to growing or being cooped in a stable for days previous? I'm not sure whether to ignore the fail and go ahead as she is a gorgeous moving horse an lovely nature or leave.
 
Why dont you discuss this with the vet that did the vetting? Just ring and say you have been thinking about the horse since the vetting and would like their opinion.
 
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The scarcoid would have been enough for me - especially aroung the girth area - some you can treat - others just keep coming back worse and cause all sorts of problems

On the lameness you could re-do the trot up in a week see if it's better, or get some xrays so you know what's going on?
 
At 2, the horse could have a lifetime of sarcoid trouble ahead, excluded from insurance as pre existing- I would walk away at that point tbh.
I wouldnt expect a youngster to trot up lame just due to 'growth', there are many nice, sound, sarcoid free young horses going for pennies at the moment.
 
The vet said that it was only a bald patch behind the elbow with a very very slight lump under it and said it could simply be a nick of some sort but coerced as a sarcoid Incase. A with the lameness she said on a scale of 1-10 sshe rated it as a 1 as it was only on a straight line and was slight bouncing around anyway. But due to that the very slight lameness she thinks she saw she failed it. Haven't actually spoke to me own vet yet but want to
 
was she defo lame? could just be sore feet on the hard ground, is it stoney?

I wouldn't like a horse with sarcoid at all but on the eye would concern me, can they defo operate there? might she lose her eye?
 
You have obviously fallen in love with the horse, easy to do. But you might just be buying yourself a very expensive (uninsured) vet bill and a horse that you can't sell on. You are friends with the owner - is this influencing your decision? - are you wanting to buy it so as not to let him/her down? How well do you know the horse? Really tricky, but step away from the situation and think about how you'd feel if it never came good.
 
My horse failed a 5 stage vetting and was refused any insurance by several insurance companies(not just excluding the problem) despite the vet speaking to them to reassure rest of horse was sound. Go into it with your eyes fully open.
 
I'm with spring feather.... Get another independent vet out for the two specific things: sarcoid and slight lameness
 
I don't think it is not allowed for your vet to vet a horse he treats, in fact its a plus as you can see her records.
As the vet has said possible sarcoid the insurance company will probably exclude all skin problems for life.
Can you have her revetted to assess the lameness?
 
I think the vendor can object to a treating vet carrying out the vetting. I know when I had a horse vetted out of area by a practice recommended to me, they had to get permission from the vendor who was a client. Wasn't a problem, they agreed. To be honest why wouldn't you if you had nothing to hide?

Incidently the horse failed and I didn't buy. In fact the vet was emphatic in his advice not to buy the horse. Sometimes wonder if there was a previous history of lameness...
 
after having a horse with sarcoids and seeing first hand the trouble they cause I would NEVER AGAIN go near a horse with sarcoids, end of!
 
naid pollyanna said:
I'm not sure whether to ignore the fail and go ahead as she is a gorgeous moving horse an lovely nature or leave.
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Sarcoid and lame. Run!

Seriously see it as a lucky escape for you, there are plenty of kind, well moving fillies and geldings that aren't lame. Why would you even think about buying one
 
Honestly the potential sarcoid alone would have been enough to make me walk away, but it sounds like you really like this horse so perhaps it's worth a second opinion.

With regard to your vet, I recently had a horse vetted and the was a section in the paperwork where the vet can declare whether they have ever treated the horse they are vetting so can't see there being an issue with you using your own vet unless the seller objects which would be a huge red flag as I'd assume they have something to hide.
 
If you use the same vet as the seller, the vet has to disclose what they have treated the horse for, which is a bonus IMO. As others have said, if you're really keen on the horse, get a second opinion.
The sarcoid on one so young would be a worry for me. Having said that, I bought a 4 yo horse who developed a sarcoid behind his elbow. I put a lamb tail docking ring on the sarcoid (bad me), it dropped off and he never had a problem again. That was 20 years ago and he's never had a day's illness or lameness - unlike all my other horses!!
 
If the vendor doesn't agree to you using their usual vet, that would raise major alarm bells with me. It may be an inexperienced vet you have used, get another one out saying you want one with years of experience, not the new one just qualified.

However, you have paid for a professional opinion, who has given 3 reasons why they, in their professional opinion, won't pass the horse as fit for purpose. Two of these reasons are very serious, sarcoids & lameness should not be present in a 2 year old, or any horse for that matter. It may be nothing, or it may be the insideous start of life threatening problems.

I've had a horse with sarcoids, our stud vet treated them homepathically (also a qualified homeopathist), cleared up, years later nothing has come back. I have recommended her to another person locally with sarcoid issues in girth area (long standing problem, resisted standard vet treatments), cleared up totally & not returned. However, some sorts are terribly aggressive, in very dangerous places where horse in pain. I have a friend hundreds of miles from us, her horse was treated with Liverpool cream, horse was in agony as they were chemically burnt off, to the point that now they have returned (within 18 months of being 'cleared'), she will leave alone until they are causing horse pain then PTS. She does not want to try homeopathy, which is her choice. They can be a dreadful debilitating disease, & you don't know which end of the spectrum this horse will be.
 
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