Ooooh i'm so angry!!!!!

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So... I have a very large Great Dane crossbreed, who is incredibly friendly, but only a baby so can be boisterous. I live on a 4,500 acre country estate in the middle of the Cotswolds, and our land surrounds the house, with a footpath crossing through the fields and passing the house.

An hour ago, my dog jumped out of a downstairs window (god knows how, it wasn't a Dane sized space!) and ran off into our side field barking his head off. I ran after him in my socks, screaming at him, and jumped the gate into the field to get him. There were two walkers in the field, a man and a woman. Mole was barking at them, tail wagging, and the silly woman was running around the field waving her arms and shrieking. I shouted "STAND STILL HE THINKS YOU'RE PLAYING", which she did, and I managed to grab him. I apologised profusely to her and explained that he had squeezed out of a window, and I assured her that he wouldn't have bitten her - he thought she was playing. She was understandably a bit short because she had had a fright, but said, "ok, thanks, let's go".

Her husband then proceeded to call me a f***ing idiot, and started yelling at me about keeping my dangerous dog under control. I explained about the window and he said "why the f**k was the window open you stupid woman?!" I got rather cross about this and said that I had no idea he could squeeze through a gap that small, and I was sorry again, and if I had thought for a moment he was going to bite them I would have been throwing bricks to try and stop him.

He carried on screaming at me and calling me an effing this and a stupid that, and I got rather angry, and ended up saying "You are actually currently on MY land, and you are TWO FIELDS AWAY from the footpath route. If you're going to walk in the countryside, you're going to see animals, and you're no longer welcome on my land if you're going to be so abusive. I understand you had a fright, but I've apologised, no harm was done, and I won't open downstairs windows again." He went storming off, still shouting and calling me horrid names, and I was a complete fairy and burst into tears.

I know Mole shouldn't have barked at them, but I had no idea that was going to happen, and there was NO need to be so horrible about it. If I ever see that man again I shall wallop him... HORRIBLE HORRIBLE person.

HMPH. I want hot chocolate now :(
 
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He sounds rather defensive - and a bit of a prat. Whereas Mole sounds rather wonderful, I love great danes, so at least you have the best man in your life.

Some people are just naturally horrible and shouldn't be let loose in the countryside - so good for your telling him to clear off.
 
What a horrible man ! How stupid can people be. Poor you having that unpleasant person shout and swear at you for no good reason, only that they were scared of your dog on your land! Unbelievably rude and ignorant, don't let it get to you. There are, unfortunately certain people who should not set foot in the country, and should stay in towns or cities and not inflict themselves on the people and animals who live there!
 
They were in the wrong but sadly will never apologise for being off the footpath; we have a footpath across an arable field on the Estate where I work and the excuses for not being on the footpath are unbelievable - "didn't want to damage the crop by walking on it", "didn't want to get my shoes dirty", "couldn't find the path on the map", "haven't got a map", "didn't see the signs"...... they are in the wrong but will argue the toss it is not them at fault, and if you confront them you come away questioning yourself as to whether you are in the wrong!. Makes my boss see red too !
 
aww I love you people thank you...

I completely understand it's scary to have a dog run at you, but if I had been that rude to the woman whose dog ate one of our chickens I think she would have thrown herself off a cliff! I hope the Labrador that actually IS vicious was out when they walked past the next house on the footpath, and I hope he gets bitten in a very uncomfortable place!
 
The way i see it they were in the wrong anyway. You shouldn't have to justify why you had your window open and your dog was on your property...As you said you explained and apologised for Moles behaviour.

If you were walking him off the lead or your house backed on to public land then yes, maybe shouldn't have barked, but like you said he just wanted to play. So don't worry about it.
 
It sounds as if the man is a typical bully, and once he has seen you be apologetic and submissive he's had a go.:mad:

My friend had a similar encounter, and she WAS in the wrong as she was riding on a public footpath on council owned land. A man appeared and he was rude and aggressive towards her, so she didn't apologise but carried on riding. The minute she got home she went to the police station and reported him for aggressive behaviour, and he got a visit from a PC warning him about his behaviour.

I don't know where people get off thinking that they can treat people like that, and why on earth should you keep your windows closed to stop your dog warning you about trespassers? He sounds a very good dog - mine probably would have bitten him :D
 
Hopefully karma has caught up with that horrible man and he got chased by some cows or something. Wouldn't be quite as bad if they were actually on the footpath but seeing as how they were technically trespassing appalling behaviour. It's your private land and your dog should be able to run around on it as he pleases - it's not like he is a banned dangerous dog breed or anything.

Think you should find out where this man lives and just walk into his house and complain about something he has there, if he can tresspass onto your land - why shouldn't you onto his, let him find out how annoying it is.
 
You should have said 'you have ten minutes to get off my land, thenr I'm letting my OTHER dog out... the one that does bite' - and then timed them to see how fast they could move:D
 
Theres always some idiot out there, trying to upset someone, but at least they'll think twice about wandering off the footpaths. Great danes seem to be able to squash through any gap they want. Mine went under the bottom bar of a 5 bar gate once, just to avoid another dog and if someone ran away from her, she would've chased them, wanting them to play. some people have no idea about animals.
 
Sorry guys, think I'm in the minority here and going to get shot down!

Whilst I don't for one minute agree with the guys reaction, I can sort of see where he's coming from. I'm petrified of dogs and if a big great dane came running towards me, I'd be scared rigid! I now you know he's a lovely boy and wouldn't hurt a fly, but when you're scared of dogs, that's not your immediate thought! I do have 3 dogs (comes with the territory of being married to a shepherd!), so would know how to react, but my fear instinct is always there.
I understand what your saying about he shouldn't have been there and I agree that he shouldn't have been abusive, but could possibly have been his reaction to him being scared.
Anyways, I hope you've got over his little rant. Don't let him spoil your fun with your new pooch!
 
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Sorry guys, think I'm in the minority here and going to get shot down!

Whilst I don't for one minute agree with the guys reaction, I can sort of see where he's coming from. I'm petrified of dogs and if a big great dane came running towards me, I'd be scared rigid! I now you know he's a lovely boy and wouldn't hurt a fly, but when you're scared of dogs, that's not your immediate thought! I do have 3 dogs (comes with the territory of being married to a shepherd!), so would know how to react, but my fear instinct is always there.
I understand what your saying about he shouldn't have been there and I agree that he shouldn't have been abusive, but could possibly have been his reaction to him being scared.
Anyways, I hope you've got over his little rant. Don't let him spoil your fun with your new pooch!
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I agree if the dog was on a public space then it is slightly different but it was her private land, there are so many places that dogs are no longer free to roam that they should be at least allowed to play and roam off the lead in one's own garden, even if that garden is several fields.

Also there is never an excuse for that kind of language especially directed to a woman from a man, scared or not. Call me old fashioned.
 
Next time something similar happens don't apologise. Instead, explain that the dog is barking because he KNOWS that they are trespassing on your land and that they should get back to the footpath asap and stay on it.
We chose our smallholding particularly because there are no footpaths across it. If we did have one, we would fence it off so that walkers couldn't trespass.
 
Tough on them, they were trespassing on private land. I wouldn't sympathise if they had actually been bitten and I certainly feel absolutely no sympathy whatsoever if they had a bit of a scare!
 
Piedpiper said:
Sorry guys, think I'm in the minority here and going to get shot down!

Whilst I don't for one minute agree with the guys reaction, I can sort of see where he's coming from. I'm petrified of dogs and if a big great dane came running towards me, I'd be scared rigid! I now you know he's a lovely boy and wouldn't hurt a fly, but when you're scared of dogs, that's not your immediate thought! I do have 3 dogs (comes with the territory of being married to a shepherd!), so would know how to react, but my fear instinct is always there.
I understand what your saying about he shouldn't have been there and I agree that he shouldn't have been abusive, but could possibly have been his reaction to him being scared.
Anyways, I hope you've got over his little rant. Don't let him spoil your fun with your new pooch!
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I know exactly where you're coming from with this - he's a very very big dog and would be very scary if you weren't used to dogs, and I was so upset that he had frightened someone. However, frightened or not, that kind of abuse is never called for - I didn't scream and shout like that when a particularly awful P2P trainer hit my horse in the face with a wooden twitch and blinded him, so why should a man walking on my land shout at me because he's had a fright?!

I apologised a million times, and his wife was nice enough about it, but his language and tone was uncalled for. I hope he falls down the well!
 
No, I agree. There was no need for him to shout at you in the way that he did, but unfortunately people do stupid things when they're scared. I'm not condoning it, far from it, but let's hope he's at home feeling like the right prat that he was!
 
If you see him and his wife again, I would definitely think about letting Mole out to scare them off. ;)

I can understand how furious you must be, some people are just bullies throughout their lives and it will no doubt come back to bite him in the arse. You were perfectly justified in defending yourself the way you did. Sound like Mole is super - playful but not dangerous and a great guard dog! Hopefully it will have taught those people a lesson and to stick to the footpath in future. They were on your land and your dog can be there if you like (though obviously you hadn't meant for him to be there, though you could have him out there all the time if you wanted I guess, provided he didn't go off your land).
 
People ought to learn about body language *sigh* In fact, it should be taught in school. Surely it's taught as part of psychology? They ought to make it cumpulsory.... because seriously, the body language of a dog playing is NOTHING like one that wishes to attack! Even an idiot SHOULD be able to see that... grrrrr

Plus, your dog had EVERY right to bark at them, as far as he was concerned, he was probably just saying 'look mum, there's people in your territory!' which I would want MY dog to do, as these days you never know who is likely to be around...
Give your dog a treat, get yourself some chocolate (or alcohol... or both!) and don't worry about the stupid idiots who roam the countryside ;) Though maybe some nice electric fencing around the perimiter fence may be good so they can think twice about entering your property by being zapped? :P
 
Agressive behaviour and bad language was totally un-called for. Unfortunately there are many such idiots out there. There's no need for it.
My answer to why the window was open would have been "the weather????"

They shouldn't have been there. Away from footpaths surely any animal could be roaming?

Me thinks a bit of jealousy on the silly man's behalf too - you clearly live in a wonderful place.
 
people are strange and there seem to be a lot of anti dog people about at the minute. My husband was told by one lady that our dogs should be put down as they shouldnt be allowed to roam around a country park with out a lead, not that they even went near her or did anything wrong.

I can understand them being scared but again they werent on the footpath they were tresspassing so in theory shouldnt be too amazed when something belonging to the owner of that land bounces up to them.

It never ceases to amaze me we had one bloke once shouting his head off at us when he was the one whod wandered onto our fields and shouldnt have been there!!!
 
What a w*nker! I hope he fell over the next stile and broke something. I have a dog who is trained in obedience and was out walking one day when he just wandered up to a woman - didnt' jump up, bark or anything. She told me that I should have my dog under control.....I told her he only goes up to people who smell like sh!t because that is what he likes to sniff.....not mature, I know, but the red mist came down......
 
Haven't read all the responses, but the irriates were trespassing, so balloney to them hun. Have a hug and and hot choccy to steady your nerves :).

I had a Saint Bernard who was always bouncing off after other dogs, with me in hot pursuit yelling "She won't hurt you! She just wants to play with the dog!!". Always just after dinner as well lol.
 
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