Opinions of this horse

Puddock said:
Lol @Auslander, I missed your post while fiddling about trying to get mine to submit!

Agree with almost everything you say, but I really don't find mine a bone shaker to ride, must have just got used to it! Sitting trot on anything else is a breeze, I'll admit ;)

My RI got on a few weeks ago having not had a sit on him for years - it was quite funny listening to her explain things as she circled round me in sitting trot :D
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Yours doesn't look to have the extreme gelderlander conformtion - he looks to be more of a riding type. I like him lots - looks full of character
 
I am just trying to track down some of my real fugly photos: think swan neck, huge plain head, ginormous shoulders, no back end and legs pointing in four different directions. I think I may have deleted them in shame.

I've just showed my (non-horsey) OH this boy's ad. His response was, "he looks very skinny, but what else is wrong with him? He's just like F"

Hmmmm :eek:
 
i do know a bit of this horses recent past and it rings true with what the advert states.

If he had a 0 knocked off his price i'd take a punt on him as a spring project, but something makes me think they wont drop that low.
 
I really want him. But I don't have the money or the correct experience, I think. Mine is a nappy old sod, but his issues have all been workable. I hope someone suitable takes a chance on him, though.
 
Puddock said:
I really want him. But I don't have the money or the correct experience, I think. Mine is a nappy old sod, but his issues have all been workable. I hope someone suitable takes a chance on him, though.
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If I were 20 years younger and horse was roughly 50% of his current price then I would give him a go. There is something very genuine about him. A decent farrier could work wonders on those feet and doubtless that would improve his overall stance. Nutrition and exercise would improve his hope no end.

I doubt this ugly duckling will ever be a swan but I bet he would make someone a great horse to have fun on.
 
Good God it never ceases to amaze me what people will consider when they are looking for a horse. The photos and the price just do not equate, don't they realise this is 2013 and we are eating horses like this (albeit in ignorance)

I didn't read the blurb, guessing from the pics that it's a desperate sale, they have realised their mistake and want shot. there's a sale at the market next week, it will probably be there, should make about 400 guineas.

I'd not even bother getting in the car to look at that horse, it's just wrong wrong wrong.
 
glamourpuss said:
Awwww I must be getting a bit soft in my old age but that ad tugged on the old heart strings a bit.
It sounded like it was written by somebody who really lived this boy & wants the best for him. He sounds lovely & I would look past his dodgy conformation & slight fugliness, if he's as described he could become a lovely horse.

I am getting far too soft!
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Hardly, if they've been jumping him in that state. I'd hate to see the 'eventer'.

OP his confo is dire but I have found in the past that tlc can even affect that. When they get a decent amount of condition and muscle up, even poor confo seems to improve. If you do give in to temptation, I expect a decent farrier and dentist could probably make a difference in a short time.

I'd be worried about his temperament though, he's 'been taught to rear' and very often placid horses become much more lively when they've been fed up.
 
Auslander said:
Might get shot for this - but Id say that rather than having awful conformation, he has very Gelderlander conformation. Flat croup, tubular barrel, and a strangely set on swan neck on a high wither. He's not a particularly attractive example of the breed, and his legs are pretty rotten looking, but I think it's important to look at him as a breed with very different characteristics to the classic riding horse shape. Gelderlanders always look to me like centaurs - the front end does look like it belongs to a different horse! They are driving horses, and are built to go in a different way.

They're also bloody uncomfortable bone shakers to ride!

Found this, which will hopefully demonstrate what I mean.

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auslander I completely agree with you. Im in no way saying that his conformation is 'perfect' for a gelderlander but he does look that typical shape. They have quite a unique 'shape'!
 
I think they pressed one too many 0's on the price! poor boy- he wouldn't be my choice, too much of a punt and not easily sell able if I lost my job or whatever. hope somebody gives him a good home though
 
el_Snowflakes said:
auslander I completely agree with you. Im in no way saying that his conformation is 'perfect' for a gelderlander but he does look that typical shape. They have quite a unique 'shape'!
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Definitely - and it's a very interesting moment when one decides to "grow an extra hand" because a blade of grass looked at it funny! You kind of feel suspended in mid air as the head and neck go up, up, up, the body stays still and the legs go crazy underneath you - think Roadrunner style ;)

Mine really struggles to track up properly - he only has wee legs ands big long body. If he's tracking up, he's giving me his best effort at "medium".
 
they have altered the advert. I hope no-one on here sent any nasty emails to the seller....... :(

If I wasnt concerned about coping financially with 2 horses I would be very tempted. :o
 
Even with the re-worded advert, he is still a £200 punt. The advert still gives the potential purchaser plenty of hints. Whether those hints are the truth or not is anybodies guess.

1. He needs schooling - aged 9 - means done nothing because previous
owners/current owner found him a bit much.
2. The owner considers the horse will make a quality allrounder - means
current owner has no idea what a quality horse actually is.
3. Nervous disposition - dangerous at times
4. Not fizzy or arsey - unique description, but he is too poor to put much of a
fight up just yet.
5. He rears.
6. Current owner has lots of fun on him - who, even those with limited
knowledge would put a saddle on something that poor and take it to
a decent riding club venue for all and sundry to see.


It will cost a minimum of £1000 to put him back together, his haylage/hay bill alone will be a lot of money, not to mention intensive farrier work as his feet are dreadful, worming may produce problems in itself as I would think he has not seen too many routine worm doses, etc etc.

He will need to go into quarantine in his new home if there are other horses on the premises, and be tested to see if he is a strangles carrier.

I really hope he lands on his feet and repays whoever puts their faith and considerable finance into him. I bought one a few years ago, smaller and much better conformation but just as rough, she came good and is a golden tempered ride/drive mare who went on and gave me my first foal who is a very nice type. She was £200 well spent but her feed and haybill through her first winter was 5 times her value.

If he comes at £200 and the purchasers have an open mind and plenty of experience he might be a happy hacker, all be it an uncomfortable one.
 
Some of you are so rotten!

I think he's gorgeous in his own special way & i bet with correct shoeing, plenty feed, TLC & a shine on his coat, he'll be a different horse (albeit still a Gelderland with their quirky confo). He's got a nice eye & tons of character.

Call me mad, but if i had the space, time & spare cash, i'd give him a chance. Whipround anyone?:D
 
Ive seen a lot worse.

And yes definitely gelderlander conformation, however gelderlanders *can* be hice horses - Mr President is a Gelderlander X and hes not done so bad. He looks like a typical gelderlander to me, just underweight and his conformation isnt that terrible. So i would be inclined to believe the ad in that respect.

If i had any room i would totally take him on.
 
Is the tacked up picture when he went jumping, do you think? If he behaved himself jumping with that saddle then he must be a genuine horse. See they've knocked a couple of hundred off his price, still too much though. He does have something about him though.
 
Poor boy, he has a kind eye. If someone (experienced and decent) could buy him to drive I bet he'd fill out ok, he looks like he needs work without weight bearing.

Shame.
 
I just see a thin horse with a big head. Not my type but can definitely see that he could look good with a bit of love and food.

Those feet HAVE to be sorted though. Every hoof/pastern angle is wrong and making him look "squat".
 
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