1985
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Hello, does any have/or has had, a doberman? How do they suit for being companions and with horses ect? Any information welcome! Thanks
Opinions on dobermans?
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mat
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I had a doberman and it was the most lovely kind and affectionate dog I ever had. She was slightly nervous sometimes as she was a rescue dog, but was excellent with the horses and used to follow me on hacks with the hunters! I new both the parents and they where both also very docile too.
Sprout
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Ours is a real softie, great with the horses, she keeps a respectful distance. She doesnt need exercise all day, a couple of walks a day, and chasing the wild rabbits seems to keep her fit and happy! Most of all, she just wants to be with us, they are very affectionate, but she does a good impression of being fierce and ferocious if anyone comes in, but she is quick to accept people once we tell her they are "friends".
As with most breeds, you do have to be firm, but they are very rewarding and wonderful companions.
As with most breeds, you do have to be firm, but they are very rewarding and wonderful companions.
zak3737
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I guess its down to the owners of these dogs, as I can safely say, the only 2 dogs I ever encounter whilst walking my Pointer that cause me anxiety are Dobermans.
They both are just TROUBLE, who's owners HAVE to put them on a very close lead before we can even pass them in open fields. Both ultra- aggressive and just looking to tear dogs apart, I really dont know how anyone can derive pleasure from keeping a dog like that.
The owners seem considerate enough, but either these dogs are picking up the wrong vibes from them, or they are just born fighters.
Lovely looking dogs, but I wouldnt have one for any money.
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They both are just TROUBLE, who's owners HAVE to put them on a very close lead before we can even pass them in open fields. Both ultra- aggressive and just looking to tear dogs apart, I really dont know how anyone can derive pleasure from keeping a dog like that.
The owners seem considerate enough, but either these dogs are picking up the wrong vibes from them, or they are just born fighters.
Lovely looking dogs, but I wouldnt have one for any money.
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Roany-pony
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Excellent dogs(I have one)!!
I would have another tomorrow.He is fab with the horses,other dogs and children.He is a wimp around JRT's and will always run to his Mum if he meets one!
The one thing I will say is that it is very important to socialize this breed from a young age.Once Ice had had his jabs I used to take him to my local Sainsburys and just sit outside so he got to meet lots of different people.
They are known as "velcro dogs" as they always want to be near you.Ice loves everyone in my household but he is a one person dog and tends to want to be with me all the time(probably because I feed him)!!
I also have 3 cats too and he loves them.
I worship my doggy and always feel safe when I am around him.He is a big softy but also very protective of his family and surroundings.
Hope that helps!!
I would have another tomorrow.He is fab with the horses,other dogs and children.He is a wimp around JRT's and will always run to his Mum if he meets one!
The one thing I will say is that it is very important to socialize this breed from a young age.Once Ice had had his jabs I used to take him to my local Sainsburys and just sit outside so he got to meet lots of different people.
They are known as "velcro dogs" as they always want to be near you.Ice loves everyone in my household but he is a one person dog and tends to want to be with me all the time(probably because I feed him)!!
I also have 3 cats too and he loves them.
I worship my doggy and always feel safe when I am around him.He is a big softy but also very protective of his family and surroundings.
Hope that helps!!
echodomino
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I guess its down to the owners of these dogs.
either these dogs are picking up the wrong vibes from them, or they are just born fighters.
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You answered that yourself, its the way that they're brought up. Dobes aren't fighting dogs they're working dogs so they're not (as a breed, don't know about the two you know) born fighters. It's the same with breeds like the Rottie, another working dog, irresponsible breeders/owners making them fighting dogs and giving them bad press for a long time to come. You get aggression in a lot of dogs, even the softest of breeds.
They are lovely looking dogs and make great companions but as with a lot of German breeds, like the Shepherd, Weimeraner and Wirehaired pointer, need firm handling from a young age - not because of their tempers but because of their strong wills
I guess its down to the owners of these dogs.
either these dogs are picking up the wrong vibes from them, or they are just born fighters.
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You answered that yourself, its the way that they're brought up. Dobes aren't fighting dogs they're working dogs so they're not (as a breed, don't know about the two you know) born fighters. It's the same with breeds like the Rottie, another working dog, irresponsible breeders/owners making them fighting dogs and giving them bad press for a long time to come. You get aggression in a lot of dogs, even the softest of breeds.
They are lovely looking dogs and make great companions but as with a lot of German breeds, like the Shepherd, Weimeraner and Wirehaired pointer, need firm handling from a young age - not because of their tempers but because of their strong wills
JAK
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PapaFrita has dobermans & hers are all gorgeous!
Not so odd that her favourite horse breed is the thoroughbred, as the two are very similar in many ways, requiring fairly competent, sympathetic handling to get the best out of them!
They can take a long time to mature & can be very 'trying' up until the age of 2-2 & a half. They need a lot of training & socialising, especially the males, which can be very sharp & male-aggressive.
They can be very impulsive by nature & react very quickly to visual or audio stimuli, making them excellent guard dogs but you need to keep your wits about you when out & about!
They are intelligent but easily distracted & sometimes inconsistent, which is why I think, they have never been that popular in Working Trials etc., as they are simply not as 'reliable' & 'predictable' as a GSD for example!
I would say it is a credit to PF & her family's training of their dogs that they can keep several males together without WWIII breaking out!
They make good companions & are very loyal, though they can be a 'one-person' dog, rather than a 'family' dog! (PF can hopefully give you her views on this though!)
Not a 'beginner's dog' really, though a bitch would probably be OK. Get one from a decent breeder though, as a dobe with a dodgy temperament is not a pleasant thing!
Not so odd that her favourite horse breed is the thoroughbred, as the two are very similar in many ways, requiring fairly competent, sympathetic handling to get the best out of them!
They can take a long time to mature & can be very 'trying' up until the age of 2-2 & a half. They need a lot of training & socialising, especially the males, which can be very sharp & male-aggressive.
They can be very impulsive by nature & react very quickly to visual or audio stimuli, making them excellent guard dogs but you need to keep your wits about you when out & about!
They are intelligent but easily distracted & sometimes inconsistent, which is why I think, they have never been that popular in Working Trials etc., as they are simply not as 'reliable' & 'predictable' as a GSD for example!
I would say it is a credit to PF & her family's training of their dogs that they can keep several males together without WWIII breaking out!
They make good companions & are very loyal, though they can be a 'one-person' dog, rather than a 'family' dog! (PF can hopefully give you her views on this though!)
Not a 'beginner's dog' really, though a bitch would probably be OK. Get one from a decent breeder though, as a dobe with a dodgy temperament is not a pleasant thing!
JAK
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Should add that most of my experiences of dobes has been of working dogs abroad (police, trialling dogs etc.), so 'pet' or 'show bred' ones in this country might all be 'soft as butter' blobs, I don't know! lol
Oneofthepack
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For every aggressive one you meet there will be 10 big softies! The aggression experienced by zak is either due to not being socialised or being specifically trained to be aggressive as it's not a natural doberman trait. My old lurchers very best mate was a rottie and the two of them used to gang up and play fight with the softest wettest dobie I've ever met. They were all big powerful dogs and yet there was never an ounce of nastiness.
PapaFrita
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Hello!! As JAK has mentioned, we have 4 dobes; 3 dogs and a bitch. The boys are very, very affectionate and a bit dopey! They're jealous of our attention though and tend to fight each other if one of them gets more petting than the other so now we try to keep them apart, especially if they have to be left alone for any length of time. Parents refused to give them the chop, so that could well be a contributing factor and they're regretting it now!
Ulla, the bitch is very very clever and a bit of a law unto herself. She'll listen to me, but is rather aloof with everyone else. She's a huge character and I adore her
None of them has ever shown a hint of aggression to any other dogs other than themselves!!!
Ulla, the bitch is very very clever and a bit of a law unto herself. She'll listen to me, but is rather aloof with everyone else. She's a huge character and I adore her
None of them has ever shown a hint of aggression to any other dogs other than themselves!!!
lmholden
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Get a rottie instead
browbrow
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Yey Rotties are better - not as hyper as a dobbie - but I love both - Rotties give the best cuddles ever
I love my Teddy Romper Rottie!!!
I love my Teddy Romper Rottie!!!
CAYLA
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I would agree they are not a first time dog...they can be notoriously difficult up until maturity and need firm and consistent training/handling, I am looking for one at the moment for some close friends of mine who have just lost their old boy and need a companion for their bitch Molly....who is actually boarding with me at the moment....they are very affectionate....but the bitch especially is very clever and strong willed and stubborn.
And very strong
And very strong
LEC
Opinions are like bum holes, everyone has one.
We have had Dobermans all my life and they are lazy and soppy. We always get Dobermans with a lot of Tavey Stud in their breeding as they have very good temperments. Our dogs are free range over 100 acres but we have a farm with open gates and lots of visitors as we have holiday cottages. They have all been trained to bark and look intimidating but never do any more than that after all we have young children wondering about. We find them quite intelligent and easy to bribe with food. They are very good about children - I learnt to walk thanks to the Doberman as used to cling on to him as the right height!
Downsides is they do not live past 10 years old very often, they have toxic farts, and are easily bullied by jack russells.
Downsides is they do not live past 10 years old very often, they have toxic farts, and are easily bullied by jack russells.
__Annie__
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They can be THE most soft, lovable, devoted, cuddly, kissy,endearing, funny shall I go on
unique breeds that ever loped our planet LOL
A Dobes SOH will have you in stitches
They can also be very adept at twisting you around their cute lil' paws, do not be deceived by their dopey expression and oh so charming ways , they are constantly plotting ways to gain your undivided attention and access to the sweetie jar
They are such bright, clever dogs and, like horses, with that comes a price..
As others have said they really must have early socialisation with everything ! I think all Dobe peeps would agree they are ever so willfull dogs and are one breed that defo needs to know their pack position so probably not a good choice of breed for the feint hearted or inexperienced
I'm head over heels besotted my my dobie boy, can you tell
A Dobes SOH will have you in stitches
They can also be very adept at twisting you around their cute lil' paws, do not be deceived by their dopey expression and oh so charming ways , they are constantly plotting ways to gain your undivided attention and access to the sweetie jar
They are such bright, clever dogs and, like horses, with that comes a price..
As others have said they really must have early socialisation with everything ! I think all Dobe peeps would agree they are ever so willfull dogs and are one breed that defo needs to know their pack position so probably not a good choice of breed for the feint hearted or inexperienced
I'm head over heels besotted my my dobie boy, can you tell
__Annie__
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FTS, it's a myth that dobes need lots of exercise
(joke)
Their people only walk them for hours on end so they get a bit of peace and quiet for a bit, they are such people dogs that unless they are asleep they are attached to your person 24/7. If you don't like going for long walks then a dobe will be equally happy for you to stay in bed with them all day/night for a snooze and cuddle LOL
Getting the picture LOL
Their people only walk them for hours on end so they get a bit of peace and quiet for a bit, they are such people dogs that unless they are asleep they are attached to your person 24/7. If you don't like going for long walks then a dobe will be equally happy for you to stay in bed with them all day/night for a snooze and cuddle LOL
Getting the picture LOL
__Annie__
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Maybe they missed out on their early socialisation? They could be dogs in their 2nd, 3rd home?
I dunno but at least their owners recognise the problem and call them to heel to leash them.
Ironically, these 2 dogs could possibly be the most loyal, loving guys you could hope to find in their HOME environment so their owner could gain an awful lot of pleasure from them.
I hope other owners make sure their own 'friendly' dogs are not allowed to initiate a negative response from the Dobes by allowing them to run at them etc. It's unfortunate that some peeps with attitude dogs hit a brick wall regarding re training because of other people's irresponsibility.
I'm not saying you do by the way LOL
, just a general observation.
I dunno but at least their owners recognise the problem and call them to heel to leash them.
Ironically, these 2 dogs could possibly be the most loyal, loving guys you could hope to find in their HOME environment so their owner could gain an awful lot of pleasure from them.
I hope other owners make sure their own 'friendly' dogs are not allowed to initiate a negative response from the Dobes by allowing them to run at them etc. It's unfortunate that some peeps with attitude dogs hit a brick wall regarding re training because of other people's irresponsibility.
I'm not saying you do by the way LOL
__Annie__
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Thanks for sharing Dobie photo's
Very handsome chap x
I've just brought my boy a brand new blue leather collar with 3 rows of diamante(I am soooo chav LOL) for £5.00 off ebay !! Bargain
I think he looks fab, OH says otherwise LOL
Mine makes me feel safe too
I've just brought my boy a brand new blue leather collar with 3 rows of diamante(I am soooo chav LOL) for £5.00 off ebay !! Bargain
Mine makes me feel safe too
__Annie__
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Here he is
Um,I'll stop this obsessive posting now LOL
Um,I'll stop this obsessive posting now LOL
ErinDoig
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i know someone who has like 10 dobermans hehe and all of them are very friendly, obedient dogs. Very good around the horses too. Could be just good handling and training but they all are lovely animals
Zaf
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lovely, barmey, loyal, super dogs, lots of energy usually and never seem to grow up! Ive had 5, 3 from rescue
filly190
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Having had Dobermans and a Rottie, I would say the Rottie is a more laid back breed and easier to train and manage.
Dobermans make wonderful pets and adapt easily. I would say that without sufficent exercise and attention they can soon get up to mischief. They have wonderful senses of humour and love to pinch things, for example what has your smell on, they will sneak off to bed with.
I found my Dobermans to be extremely vocal and living in the countryside where the early morning light floods in and they can see rabbits playing, gave me many a sleepless night.
I also found that they have this wonderful ability to sling a deaf one and if they see a rabbit etc can turn them selves completely off to your voice commends, no matter how well trained and be off like a shot. I had to be extremely careful when walking mine and always carried rewards to encourage a quick and safe return (not that it always worked).
I really dont think there is anything adverse I could say about the breed, its just that I have personal experience in comparing the breeds of Rottie and Doberman and feel the Rottie is much more bidable and wanting to please that the Dobbie. My rottie has never slung a deaf ear and has always stayed close by when out walking. She is calmer and less hyper than a dobbie. When my dobbie were young a breeder once told me, it takes two years for them to mature and be sensible, I found this to be true. Not that I am saying they are divvy, just full of engery. Left alone in another room to you, they will find things to amuse themselves with and can be very entertaining.
I would choose your breeder very carefully and want to see the dog and bitch and see how they are. I would be checking to see how vocal the parents were, some lines are extremely vocal and I would definately advise to avoid that.
The aliment you wish to avoid with Dobbies is Vonwilbrands (sorry spelt it how it sounds). You need to know the bitch and dog are tested and clear of it and have certficiates to prove this. Good breeders will only have clear dogs. The showing breeders are still using dogs that have this diease because they do not want to introduce clear blood lines and start all over again building up their show stock.
It does matter, as if they bleed or need an operation you need a vet that is aware of this disease and has sufficient blood to cope if they dont stop bleeding.
Good luck
Dobermans make wonderful pets and adapt easily. I would say that without sufficent exercise and attention they can soon get up to mischief. They have wonderful senses of humour and love to pinch things, for example what has your smell on, they will sneak off to bed with.
I found my Dobermans to be extremely vocal and living in the countryside where the early morning light floods in and they can see rabbits playing, gave me many a sleepless night.
I also found that they have this wonderful ability to sling a deaf one and if they see a rabbit etc can turn them selves completely off to your voice commends, no matter how well trained and be off like a shot. I had to be extremely careful when walking mine and always carried rewards to encourage a quick and safe return (not that it always worked).
I really dont think there is anything adverse I could say about the breed, its just that I have personal experience in comparing the breeds of Rottie and Doberman and feel the Rottie is much more bidable and wanting to please that the Dobbie. My rottie has never slung a deaf ear and has always stayed close by when out walking. She is calmer and less hyper than a dobbie. When my dobbie were young a breeder once told me, it takes two years for them to mature and be sensible, I found this to be true. Not that I am saying they are divvy, just full of engery. Left alone in another room to you, they will find things to amuse themselves with and can be very entertaining.
I would choose your breeder very carefully and want to see the dog and bitch and see how they are. I would be checking to see how vocal the parents were, some lines are extremely vocal and I would definately advise to avoid that.
The aliment you wish to avoid with Dobbies is Vonwilbrands (sorry spelt it how it sounds). You need to know the bitch and dog are tested and clear of it and have certficiates to prove this. Good breeders will only have clear dogs. The showing breeders are still using dogs that have this diease because they do not want to introduce clear blood lines and start all over again building up their show stock.
It does matter, as if they bleed or need an operation you need a vet that is aware of this disease and has sufficient blood to cope if they dont stop bleeding.
Good luck