Opinions on this ad?

I would get to see him quickly if I were you - you've just highlighted a lovely horse to the whole of HHO -845 looks at the ad from here already - he'll be snapped up !!
 
pixiebee said:
heres your answer 'For sale from field, owner lost interest, and family ill health forces quick sale.'

you wont be able to ride it to try it I doubt. Which means its a massive risk imo
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This.

But what a smashing looking horse. Worth a phone call to find out a bit more. And obviously get some more up to date photo's (as in today).
 
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Lovely looking horse! let us know if you get to view him.

With regards to your budget...how much will you be paying monthly to keep your new horse? the reason I ask, if you buy a horse that needs many many months of work to be able to anything then factor in your livery costs. Sometimes it works out better to save your livery cost for a few months to add to your budget.

Good luck whatever you decide
 
From the little one can tell from photos, I like him. Definitely think he's worth a look.

Sounds like you're going about this very wisely, taking experienced hands with you. My sister and I always loaned and swapped and bought on a shoestring when I was younger - didn't always work out but that's part of what learning with horses is all about.

Good luck, hope it works out for you xx

ETA - he's really nicely bred, came from Darley, out of a daughter of the half-sister to fillies' Triple Crown winner Oh So Sharp, which was Sheikh Mohammed's first classic winner.
 
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Definitely worth a look imo. As said it could be a different horse when fit, & maybe not as schooled as the ad implies but it sounds like you have experienced help & you won't know until you've tried it.
I spent months looking at second ponies for a friends daughter going to see ads that ticked all the boxes with a healthy budget to no avail. I went to see a cheap project for me that was supposedly a problem pony & wearing as many gadgets as they could get on it despite being unfit. It turned out to be a pony that had previously been very well schooled & just objected to having its teeth socked & head tied down. For £300, 10x less than we'd been looking at we ended up with exactly what she wanted. But from the ad I wouldn't have considered it as remotely worth looking at for a child moving off a first ridden. If its not miles out of the way then I tend to think there's nothing to lose.
 
Wowsers - he looks fantastic for that price. There is no reason why you can't pop on him even though he is sold from the field. I imagine they are suggesting that you aren't going to be able to turn up and take him over a course!

He looks, in those pictures, really well and look how relaxed the rider is while she is on him. Definitely a clue to his temperament I think.

Bearing in mind what you are looking for I think you should go and see him. He is beautiful. It does say £800 or nearest offer......
 
I am afraid I am of the opinion that a green horse sold from the field is not a good purchase for a first time buyer, no matter how experienced they think they are. Sorry.

If I was looking to buy this horse, I would want it vetting, bloods taken, and when at home, back, saddle, teeth, the works checked.

As poster above, I think you would be better off saving up your livery money, and getting something thats at least in work, as get a better assessment of it ridden.

You may be able to get a bit more of a bargain coming into winter.
 
wench said:
I am afraid I am of the opinion that a green horse sold from the field is not a good purchase for a first time buyer, no matter how experienced they think they are. Sorry.

If I was looking to buy this horse, I would want it vetting, bloods taken, and when at home, back, saddle, teeth, the works checked.

As poster above, I think you would be better off saving up your livery money, and getting something thats at least in work, as get a better assessment of it ridden.

You may be able to get a bit more of a bargain coming into winter.
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Finally, someone who agrees with me, was starting to think the horse buying world had all gone fluffy bunny for a moment there!
 
if you are close by I would get in quick and look - ask owner to handle it first just in case it is a nut job and then lead, trot it up on hard ground to check for anything obvious, groom it, pick out feet, handle all over and obviously check for heat in legs etc, lunge (if it will) then ride but maybe with someone leading you at first - this sounds overly cautious but you may need someone to be there to give you enough time to get off if it all goes wrong. Unfortunately you may find there is no tack or the tack doesnt fit so you cant ride and I personally wouldnt be getting on it bareback in a million years. Hopefully you will have a bargain gorgeous horse as he is lovely.

Good luck - you could also ask if they would be happy for you to speak to their vet !
 
emma.is said:
is this who he was with when he was raced? If so this is amazing, thank you very much!!
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Martin ( Davids dad) is a lovely man and they will speak to you if you call them, I called him regarding my horse and he went off, got all her details and called me back.

I was quite excited that thee Martin Pipe CBE was calling my home phone :D I would be a wreck if I worked for either them :o

01884 840715 is their number.
 
I don't think this is necessarily a bad idea as long as the OP is cautious - which it sounds like she is being.

The horse is cheap, but not for an ex racehorse sold from the field - it's about right.

Definitely advise speaking to the trainer, plus also someone from the PC and the Hunt as it says he has done PC Camp and hunted - you should be able to get a fair idea of what the horse is like.

I would expect to ride the horse even if 'sold from the field'. If the horse is sound there is no reason you can't get on and have a w/t/c and pop a small jump and get an idea for what it is like.

I won't make any judgement about the experience of the OP - if she has loaned a horse for a year then it's not dissimilar to someone buying a second horse rather than a first horse. I'm sure her instructor would advise against the horse if they felt it was too much or would be unsuitable - but no harm in going to see him. He looks a nice chap, could be a bargain if he is what it says on the tin.
 
Yes will definately be expecting to w/t/c and jump. No way I'll buy if not :) I will seek reference ect. Have spoken to my instructor and she wants me to just ask more questions about if I can ride, vices, which hunt/pc club and what he's like in the stable :) thank you everybody for your opinions and help!
 
In my experience, sold from the field usually means that the owners have over horsed themselves, the horse has scared them and there's no way they will get on it. That's not to say that such a horse would be a problem for a more experienced rider.

I met Martin Pipe once, he is definitely a man of his word.
 
I've been competing at RC stuff in worcestershire for last 18 months and I don't recognise him. I wonder where in the county they are as I could ask around. Your best bet is just to phone owner and have a good long chat and be honest !
 
wench said:
I am afraid I am of the opinion that a green horse sold from the field is not a good purchase for a first time buyer, no matter how experienced they think they are. Sorry.
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I think this is a little bit harsh, sorry. First time buyers come in all shapes and sizes - I sold my old competition horse to a lady who had never owned but had plenty of experience. For all we know the OP might have had a string of loans before she and her family decided to take the plunge and buy. And if I was the OP, I would find your tone about a bit condescending :o

Maybe it's better the OP goes to a dealer and gets ripped off with a crock, eh? She could spend ten times as much as this ad and still buy a dud, and plenty of 'experienced' buyers have done just that.

We weren't asked to comment on the horse's suitability for the OP (about whom we know nothing) but about what we thought of the ad...
 
AMH said:
Maybe it's better the OP goes to a dealer and gets ripped off with a crock, eh? She could spend ten times as much as this ad and still buy a dud, and plenty of 'experienced' buyers have done just that.

We weren't asked to comment on the horse's suitability for the OP (about whom we know nothing) but about what we thought of the ad...
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but nobody is saying to do that??????? and i think your actually being harsh to dealers with that comment, like all sellers, theres good and bad
 
pixiebee said:
Finally, someone who agrees with me, was starting to think the horse buying world had all gone fluffy bunny for a moment there!
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So should all first time owners only be allowed to buy a certain breed/age/type of horse then? :confused:

Being an ex racer he is likely to have been well handled, used to travelling, and have a reasonable degree of schooling. Plus all he has done since. For those saying that the seller could have had someone else ride him and have him fit, it wouldn't really be worth it for such a low value animal. I'm sure she could have sold him to a dealer, but then she'd be criticised on here for that too!

It might be the nicest, sweetest little horse, which no-one will know unless they go to view, with their eyes wide open, same as for any horse. :)
 
If you think it looks good from the viewing but haven't been able to ride properly then it might be worth asking for a trial or a loan with a view to buy. Be clear that this is just so you can try the horse, you are in the market to buy if it is safe and sound, so that they don't think you are a timewaster. I know lots of people won't agree to them but if they are genuinely keen to move this horse on and there is nothing wrong with it they may agree.

I would be very cautious, but if your budget is tight, you are confident about your ability to take on a project and have plenty of support you could get more horse than you would otherwise be able to afford. However be a bit wary, why haven't they sold to a dealer or put him on sales livery if they have lost interest? Or just put in a couple of weeks work themselves or paid a rider so that he can be sold for a decent price if he does everything they say.

Having said that, he could still be worth it even if you end up needing professional help with him.

Go and have a look, be cautious, don't believe everything you are told, do your homework by checking references and previous owners and let us know how you get on.
 
rhino said:
So should all first time owners only be allowed to buy a certain breed/age/type of horse then? :confused:

Being an ex racer he is likely to have been well handled, used to travelling, and have a reasonable degree of schooling. Plus all he has done since. For those saying that the seller could have had someone else ride him and have him fit, it wouldn't really be worth it for such a low value animal. I'm sure she could have sold him to a dealer, but then she'd be criticised on here for that too!

It might be the nicest, sweetest little horse, which no-one will know unless they go to view, with their eyes wide open, same as for any horse. :)
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I agree, some people on here think all first time buyers all numpties who should only be allowed a brain dead plod. They forget that some people are able to get lots of experience behind them before they buy. Someone I know has just bought their first horse and they are currently working for a 4* eventer and have previously worked breaking in youngsters.

When I was looking for my first horse I was told on here that I shouldn't buy a 5year old, it would be a disaster waiting to happen etc. Until someone on here who knows me in RL spoke up and said that I do know one end from t'other.
 
Now that I've finally moved, I'm looking for a horse. I'm a first-time buyer. Forget the fact that I've worked in a riding school and a racing stud, had my last horse on full loan for 16 years, have ridden everything from ex-racers to fat cobs...Sounds like I'd better buy a donkey as it's my first time.
 
moleskinsmum said:
Now that I've finally moved, I'm looking for a horse. I'm a first-time buyer. Forget the fact that I've worked in a riding school and a racing stud, had my last horse on full loan for 16 years, have ridden everything from ex-racers to fat cobs...Sounds like I'd better buy a donkey as it's my first time.
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Hmm, I would suggest a three-legged donkey - first time buyers can often underestimate how quickly a donkey can move with four legs... :D
 
rhino said:
So should all first time owners only be allowed to buy a certain breed/age/type of horse then? :confused:

Being an ex racer he is likely to have been well handled, used to travelling, and have a reasonable degree of schooling. Plus all he has done since. For those saying that the seller could have had someone else ride him and have him fit, it wouldn't really be worth it for such a low value animal. I'm sure she could have sold him to a dealer, but then she'd be criticised on here for that too!

It might be the nicest, sweetest little horse, which no-one will know unless they go to view, with their eyes wide open, same as for any horse. :)
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its not the fact he is a tb/ex racer, it is the fact he is being sold from the field which the op is unlikely to be able to ride to trial that is the issue. I would caution any potential purchaser in this case, especially a first time buyer on a budget who might let the price/looks of a horse sway them than the actual facts (not saying this is the case with op) I think its wise to proceed with caution.
 
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