Opinions on this horse?

only_me said:
I would question his usefullness for breeding if he is a gelding :p

He actually looks quite nice and could just be cold backed, but advert sounds as though he isnt currently in work. And if he does better shod then why isnt he?!
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..................possibly because he isn't in work?
 
After trying to sort out one horse with back issues, I would say steer clear :( The horse I had (on loan with view to buy) displayed much less dramatic behaviour, he would just hump his back a little and shake his head. He too was fine bareback. He turned out to have an inoperable tumour on his spine, was a totally heartbreaking situation, he went downhill dramatically in a very short space of time. He was retired to pasture but couldn't be made comfortable, and was put to sleep less than a year after I met him, many vet bills later. I have to say this ad would ring huge alarm bells. Why haven't they gone down the veterinary route themselves?
 
Actually I think he looks like a nice sort, £1500 is a bargain for a quarter horse, the bucking problem actually sounds like a saddle issue, particularly as they say cold backed. Coldbacked ime normally equals bad saddle fit. I think it's worth going to see him if you like him OP. I assumed Oct 2013 is just a typo
 
SadKen said:
As a normal horse, I wouldn't go and see him and I'd say he's well overpriced with some worrying issues.

Having said this, it seems he's worth considering because he's a quarter horse with good breeding, which means he probably is worth the money.

I guess it would depend on how you'd feel about sorting out all his issues OP! Pretty is not the problem for sure. Handsome guy.
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Odd reply it is a gelding so why would the breed make what would appear to be a horse that you would not consider due to its faults suddenly worth looking at when you cannot breed from it?
 
He's a nice looking horse, but as others have commented- I can't understand why the vendor hasn't gone down the saddle-fitting/ veterinary route? If the horse is so valuable to them surely worth diagnostics at least? If further intervention was required, surely the insurance would cover?

there's a lot of info there, but quite defensive in the way it's written to justify the price. I think they maybe know more than they're letting on, it seems odd to me that they're not open to offers given that the problem could potentially be very big, very dangerous and very expensive indeed.

perhaps worth a visit and then a 5* if you're interested enough? Good luck if you do take this one further, I'm not sure I would personally. My £1500 could buy something problem free in this kind of market (not with that breeding admittedly!)
 
I think that a lot of people are getting carried away by his breeding and not looking at the big picture. So the horse is a quarter horse - so what?? A pedigree guarantees nothing. Two horses with the same breeding can be totally different. A good pedigree is a plus point if a horse is good, but not a reason to buy a horse unless you are intending to breed. I was "amused" at the bit in the advert that said a more experienced rider would have just got back on after being launched - he's not just bucking, he is actually launching people! I'm a palomino fan but think he is a wishy washy version, and that's his summer coat.

So for me its a no, I am not swayed by him. You could get a heck of a lot more for that money.
 
I bought a QH with amazing breeding 4 years ago. She was 4 and sold from the field for slightly more than this boy. Her problems started with being cold-backed in a saddle but fine bareback and many vets bills later ended in April this year when she was PTS-she was just 8 years old- She had kissing spines as well as numerous other issues. I am not saying this boy is going to be the same and in fact the bloodlines are very different, but I would be very cautious, as the difficulty is that you cannot tell what exactly the problems may be without seeing him ridden and riding him yourself and probably several times. I spoke to the chap who backed her as a 3 yo and he told me that she was difficult then and that he had advised the breeder to either breed from her or sell her cheap-she did neither, because of course like the owner of the horse advertised they think that the bloodlines mean something-even though the horse is broken............she bucked............
 
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Dizzle said:
Run. Run. Run like the wind.

£1500 for a horse that has done some light hacking but mostly bucks under saddle for no reason that they have bothered investigating other than a bit of ground work.

No point buying other people’s problems and certainly not for that money!!
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^^^^ this!
 
Would not take this an for all the tea in china .
Unless OP has a compelling reason to own a cheap quarter horse I would walk away .
No ,not walk I would flee.
 
Reading through the comments has made me realise why it is so easy to stuff bad horses into some 'horsey' people.

What are some of you seeing in that advert. I see a very weirdly worded advert for a gelding with problems, a picture of a silly girl draped all over it, no competition record, and an owner that hasn't a clue. Bizarre to say the least.
 
AdorableAlice said:
Reading through the comments has made me realise why it is so easy to stuff bad horses into some 'horsey' people.

What are some of you seeing in that advert. I see a very weirdly worded advert for a gelding with problems, a picture of a silly girl draped all over it, no competition record, and an owner that hasn't a clue. Bizarre to say the least.
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Agree with this.

The owners run some sort of unspecified but all the same, 'highly qualified' natural horsemanship -inspired training courses for employment skills and such like.

The horse is not in work, has done little and has a bucking problem. And is gelded.

Hopefully it could be taken for a token payment by someone with a knowledge and liking for quarter horses but more probably seems doomed to be bought by someone with no idea.
 
Holly08 said:
I think that a lot of people are getting carried away by his breeding and not looking at the big picture. So the horse is a quarter horse - so what?? A pedigree guarantees nothing. Two horses with the same breeding can be totally different. A good pedigree is a plus point if a horse is good, but not a reason to buy a horse unless you are intending to breed. I was "amused" at the bit in the advert that said a more experienced rider would have just got back on after being launched - he's not just bucking, he is actually launching people! I'm a palomino fan but think he is a wishy washy version, and that's his summer coat.

So for me its a no, I am not swayed by him. You could get a heck of a lot more for that money.
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i agree with this
 
I wouldn't of even given the advert a second look to be honest.

A horse with potential back issues is a massive no go for me and a 5 stage vetting does not guarantee these issues will be picked up.

Take it from me that it is not worth the heartache.
 
I can't imagine why any-one would even consider travelling 5 hrs to buy a project, never mind an over-priced gelding no matter what its breeding, which is more or less irrelevant, it certainly can't be passed on.

I think Spring Feather has got rather confused - this horse is priced at £1500 not dollars. That might be a reasonable price to pay in Canada but it isn't here for a horse which has done worse than nothing and is likely to be a real problem.

I wouldn't bother looking at horse for sale by someone who can't even be bothered to investigate why it bucks (although it sounds like a saddle issue to me).
 
Pearlsacarolsinger said:
I can't imagine why any-one would even consider travelling 5 hrs to buy a project, never mind an over-priced gelding no matter what its breeding, which is more or less irrelevant, it certainly can't be passed on.
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Ah that's where we differ. Bloodlines are very important to me. There are some AQHA lines I would never touch because they are not bred for what I require of them, and then there are other lines which are a must. Gelding, mare, stallion, makes no difference to me whether they are entire or not, that's not relevant. I purely want particular lines because these horses have been bred specifically for certain job roles.

I think Spring Feather has got rather confused - this horse is priced at £1500 not dollars. That might be a reasonable price to pay in Canada but it isn't here for a horse which has done worse than nothing and is likely to be a real problem.
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No, I follow the horse markets in Europe and I know that £1,500 is very cheap for a registered AQHA with these bloodlines.

I wouldn't bother looking at horse for sale by someone who can't even be bothered to investigate why it bucks (although it sounds like a saddle issue to me).
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Yes that's what would be my take on it too, that the horse may be bucking due to saddle issues. It's being used as a therapy horse which shows the horse runs true to its breeding, the bloodlines say this horse should be a gem and under better circumstances he probably is. Something has gone wrong somewhere though, none of us know what, or if any permanent damage has been done or if it's just the saddle that is causing the problem. I also agree with you regarding the sellers; I don't get why they wouldn't investigate further but maybe that's something that an interested party can get answers to privately.
 
Ok, now having looked at their website, I wouldn't touch with someone else's bargepole. Either they have tried to fix him and failed or he is so pee'd off at having ropes and sticks waved at his face he is no longer suitable as a therapy horse. I'm 99% sure that they have probably tried more than one saddle and had that back looked at and failed to fix it.
 
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