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Hi guys,

Well, basically Mo's lame and we've got no idea why. There's no heat, swelling or cuts of any description anywhere. My sister has said she's looked a bit odd on her right hind for the past couple of days, but i couldnt see it. We trotted her up this morning, and again, i couldnt see it. So we tacked up to go for a ride this evening and as we walked up the drive to leave the yard, Vicky asked Mo to trot on, to catch Moll & I up. Mo was hopping lame. So we went back to the yard and trotted her up again. Obviously she wasnt as bad with no rider on her back, but the lameness is much more noticeable than before, because even I can see it (i'm awful at spotting lameness!)
We're gonna get the vet out in the morning, but mum thinks we're over-reacting and should just box-rest her for a few days and see how she goes. What would you do?
Could you please take a look at these trot-ups and see what you think? The vids are taken from my mobile, so are pretty crappy, but you can hear the lameness if you turn your volume up! Many thanks!

Lou. x



 
I think you should get the vet, Mo looks pretty sore.
Usually they have to be quite lame in the hind for you to see it ,it looks to me like something high up, in the back or stifle rather than being an injury in the leg.
 
Yeah, we guessed it was high up, but we cant work out why. I think she just knows that she's booked in to go on a training break with me for the weekend on the 27th, so she's done it on purpose!!!
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Maybe she just been getting a bit excited in the field and overdone it , hopefully it will be nothing serious x
 
She is definitely lame behind! If there is no heat or swelling, I personally would put her on box rest for a couple of days and if it gets any worse call the vet... however, this is only what I personally would do, I am not going to recommend it!

I dunno if maybe it could be an abscess? I don't know much about them but I do know that quite often when people talk about sudden mysterious lameness, that is what it turns out to be.
My only other thought is that 'has the farrier been recently'. Could it be nail bind or something like that?

Hope it clears up, I hate mystery lameness.
 
looks like its her near hind to me, or maybe im seeing things lol!!! check feet for anything wedged in like small stones etc and check for absesses etc, is there any lumps,bumps or heat???
 
Nope, cant find anything physical. Went through her feet and scrubbed every last bit out - nothing there. The farrier's out on Monday, so i'll see what the vet reckons tomorrow. It's been 5 weeks since she was last shod, so i doubt it's anything to do with her last shoeing.
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Could it be tying up? Quite hard to judge from videos, is she a bit reluctant to move? Deffo get vet out though!

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TBH i've absolutely no idea what tying up is!!
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I'm a bad horse owner! Could you give me a brief rundown?!!! She was reluctant to move though, hence the whip in the trot-up.
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Has she had anything happen over the past few days i.e out a hack and got a fright, jumping about at any point, been left alone?
 
The following list contains the possible symptoms of Tying Up. Tying up is usually exercise-related. Symptoms below are most likely to appear within the first 1/2 hour of work. Some horses may not exhibit all symptoms. Tying up seems to be more common in young Quarter Horses and Thoroughbreds who are either not fit or high strung, however, it can occur in any breed.


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Most common symptoms:
Obvious discomfort
Abnormally short strides, muscle stiffness
Difficulty in movement. Horse may refuse to move
Muscle hardening/contracting with hindquarter spasms, mostly in croup area
Elevated pulse & respiration

Possible additional symptoms:
Flaring of the nostrils
Slow capillary refill time
Pawing
Pale gums
Sweating
Short, stiff gait
Brown colored urine
 
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Could it be tying up? Quite hard to judge from videos, is she a bit reluctant to move? Deffo get vet out though!

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TBH i've absolutely no idea what tying up is!!
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I'm a bad horse owner! Could you give me a brief rundown?!!! She was reluctant to move though, hence the whip in the trot-up.
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It's also known as azoturia, didn't know much about it either when Ali got it. I thought he was very lame in one of his hing legs, but there was absolutely no heat. I cold-hosed anyway, which makes things even worse with azoturia, the horse needs to be kept warm.
http://www.equinehospital.net/azoturia.htm
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/horsecare/1370/56516.html
 
QR - personally the last thing I would do would be to box rest her, if she's tweaked something high up then having her confined will just make it seize up even more. Keeping her in the field with her moving around will help her lymphatic system get rid of all the toxins that will have been released by a damaged muscle.
My gelding was off work last month for being 'not right' (though not as bad as Mo) in his off hind. Nothing to see or feel, like yours, and definitely in his hip somewhere. Just left him to mooch around the field quietly, and he's good again now.
 
Thanks for the tying up info guys, but having read it, i dont think it's that. She's not been worked for a few days due to the weather
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and her looking a bit 'odd' anyway. And the last time she was ridden (3 nights ago), it was only a walk around one of the fields (was planning on doing more, but the horse flies were on form that night and were majorly annoying her). It WAS quite boggy, but we were careful to only walk. I wonder if she may have pulled something then? Would it take this long (3 days) to show the lamness? I hope that's all it is. But saying that, if it IS that, i've probably made it worse by bringing her in tonight haven't i?

I'll deffinately be ringing the vet in the morning, just to put our minds at ease. Horses eh, who'd have 'em?!!!

Thanks guys!

Lou. x
 
Don't worry about having brought her in tonight, just don't be too alarmed if she's worse in the morning
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I don't think it's tying up - people were thinking that as she was reluctant to move, but if your leg/hip/pelvis or whatever was hurting I doubt you'd want to be running either.
Let us know how she goes, I somehow suspect that she'll come right after you've cancelled whatever it was you had planned. I know my boy managed to go lame, and stay lame, for the week running upto our first dressage test, and we didn't go
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QR.
A spavin wouldn't show up all of a sudden though would it? Don't forget that if the muscles of the hindquarters aren't working as they should because they're damaged it will affect the flexion of the hock, and the longer this goes on the more the horse will present with spavin symptoms as the hock starts to build up adhesions within the joint (synovial membrane adhesions, not bony ones!) because it won't have been going through it's normal range of movement.
 
Oh you've got me worried now! She cantered off in the field the other day and I was laughing, saying she looked like a frog!
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Right, i'm off to ring the vet now. Thank you all.
Will let you know what happens.
Fingers crossed that it's a pulled muscle!

Lou. x
 
Think your doing the right thing in getting the vet out, it looks as if it could be high up, but im not an expert on lameness either, im afraid
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she would probably be better off in, vet may also give her some bute as well, She may have done somthing messing around in the field, you just done know. Hopefully its nothing much.
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Best of luck, keep us updated
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Morning - bit difficult to see from the vid. But my initial reaction was that it was high up lameness - rather than foot or leg. Possibly the back - behind the saddle on the off side.

I would most certainly get the vet today or Monday at the latest. I would not be happy leaving her like that.
 
i havent read the replies, so apologies if someone has said this - but id get your physio out if i was you, i think it looks like shes pulled something high up.
 
Thank you both. God i'm crap with stuff like this! Is there any way of differentiating between pain in her back and pain in her hip?

I've spoken to the vets. Had to register with a new practice (Ashbrook) because i've decided i'm not keen on our old one. They're ringing me back to let me know what time they can come out, but it wont be until this afternoon.
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What would you do until then - leave her in or put her in a little paddock? Or walk her around for a bit, then put her in? She seems even worse this morning and is holding her leg up a lot.
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I'm really worried now.

We've used the chiropractor at Ashbrook and they're really good (Mo had 2 sessions a couple of months ago because her back was a bit sore). So i'm sure if it's that, the vet will refer us.

Oh the stress!!!!!!!!!
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