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SusieT

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I'd have the vet to give her a soundness check, hard to tell on that field. For the cost of keeping an unsound one-might as well..
 

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Just out of interest you dont think its to do with her being a trotter does it? I know someone mentioned before it could have something to do with why her movement may look a little funny and unsound... xx

It could be, just buy her anyway. For that price you havent got much to lose, maybe she is just moving like trotters do!! What will happen to her if you dont buy her? No pressure. Go on you know you want too, offer less even. JUST DO IT, but avoid another flexion test.
 

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When I was looking for my horse I went to see a gelding with a bit of trotter in him and he looked sound on the ground but by good he was weird to ride! I don't think the ill fitting saddle helped but basically the only way I can describe the movement was side to side. Just felt like the horse was snaking along. I thought it was because he had trotter in him rather than a health issue but I have no experience of trotters so not sure to be honest.

Was a shame because he was a lovely looking horse and on the ground thought he was lovely but to ride I just don't think I would of been able to cope with the movement was so strange. Certainly the strangest horse i've ever ridden!
 

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I like her but i straight away thought she doesnt look right behind, it could just be that she's weak for her age, could be slippy ground etc, i wouldn't right her off too quickly for 300 quid i think it'd be nice to give her a chance, i'd try and get him down on the price a bit though.

As for the trotter thing, i have a trotter cross and he's never moved what you might call normally but did very well at dressage and showing as he does have very extravagant movement, he also had a good jump on him!
 

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Well you all going to think I'm mad but I brought her in for another play popped a saddle on and backed her.. loosely using the word. I got on and we walked around garden in floodlight, never been sat on and not a flinch Oooo so so tempted!!! Lol

Just get on with it! Buy her, she could end up anywhere. Look at it this way, she is just the cost of a car tax!
 

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to be honest OP it's difficult to tell on that vid whether she's lame or not and if she is to what degree, perhaps if you could get a clearer video we could see a bit better? But I think she looks sweet and a good price!
 

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she does look a little uneven behind, but the yard is small and she really does not get to move out in the video. I would like to see her move properly and in straight line/both ways on a circle. It could be a trimming issue, a bump, a slip, or something more of an issue. I would get a vet just to check that out and after their opinion make a decision.
 

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I dont think that they prove anything, at worse they can make a small problem a bigger problem, I think that they are an out dated method of testing a horses soundness. With a FT you are ostensibly making a horse lame for at least 2 or 3 strides. In most cases, including this filly, it is obvious that there is a problem so why confirm it with a FT.

i totally agree with you outdated there are not many horses that pass a flexion test oh and yes i thought she looked a little short on her hind but not not really bad
 

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No I didnt make her lame... but i wasnt sure about her soundness behind hence why I did the flexion test.

Why dont you like flexion tests and why not in youngsters?




You DON'T flexion test youngsters because the growth-lines in their skeleton - including, of course, the limbs - have yet to close.
 

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I agree with flexion tests being a bit outdated. I think there's no harm in a qualified vet doing them on vettings but I don't think 'normal' people should be doing them willy nilly so to speak!! Flexion tests often make the majority of horses temporarily lame for a few steps and yet many of them go on with no problems through life whatsoever. If they were badly lame after one then yes I'd be worried. There's a lot of strain put on with them and they shouldn't be done on young horses in my opinion, unless a vet thinks it necessary.
 

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I have a trotter/tb (unknown breeding) atm (she's more trotter than anything), and she isn't the tidiest behind. She had very mild upward fixation of the patella when she first came to me, due to incorrect muscle formation around the stifle ligament, so it was slipping. She was 'unlevel' and trippy, but with correct work/rest/turnout she has 100% come right :) You wouldn't know there had been anything wrong with her, and it's something that horses can grow out of, which it looks like she has (touch wood).

It's a very common ailment in trotting/driving breeds, might be worth some research, good vids on youtube and lot's of info on how to treat it.

My mare will never be a dressage horse, and is always going to have slightly 'bandy' back legs, like bambi. But boy can she jump! There is nothing wrong with her, she's just a little untidy if she get's excited and trots a bit faster than I'd like, if you keep a nice steady trot it's fine.

She was worked hard from about 2 over in ireland, I assume she was driven at some point, and she's 5 now, and the difference some rest and proper work has made, she's like a different horse.

She's too small for me, and the client I bought her off, which is a shame. However I hope to sell her on in the spring to do PC/BS, as she is so quiet to ride!

Hope I've put a positive spin on trotters, I'm glad I gave my black beauty a chance as she is the most people orientated horse ever, she'd be in the lounge if you let her! Everyone loves her and wants to buy her off me, but I won't sell her until I feel she's ready :)
 

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Looks a nice compact sort. Lovely shoulder and sweet expression.
I would be wondering just how much work she has done...how was she with the bit? did you get the impression that she was used to being bitted/backed or is she just a trusting, sensible sweetheart?

Trotters can look a bit weird behind if they are young and not fully using themselves, I'm used to Hackneys but a lot of 'trotters' do seem to dish behind a bit, and the faster they go the more extravagant the dish! Also, some trotters seem to have pacer type blood in them, which does not help their action. A good Hackney should feel like a well sprung sofa, not a jarry kitchen chair!

I'd be tempted :) as SnowfieLouBie said, trotters/Hackneys are very much people horses, they are very savvy and quick to learn. Earntheir trust and they will give of their best and be affectionate... I've never met a 'nasty' Hackney or part bred.
 

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She's a sweet little thing and for £300 (offer £250!!), you have space and can afford another mouth to feed then go for it.

Youngsters go through different growth stages and at 2 (rising 3) she's not going to have perfect conformation, be balanced or go forward correctly so any hint of unsoundness isn't a sign of bad things to come.

Give her a good home and she'll come good for you.
 

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She looks very sweet. Quite long in the back. She doesn't look sound behind. My guess would be it's her right hind foot rather than the leg. Have you felt for any heat in the hoof?
 

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If you can afford her take her on loan or buy her! offer £200-£250 and get a vet to have a look at her. For such a small price for a lovely looking mare (shame on the behind but can hopfully be sorted/Improved) what have you got to loose? x
 
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