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rachmacypixie111

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I had some strong opinions on here tonight over the veiws of the PTS of horses - they were not very welcome and I have had a lot of abuse!

I thought this site was open to everybody and you could voice your opinions?

Yes - I did get upset - beacuse I was genuinally upset over it. I fully accept I didnt read all the posts properly but still agree I got upset over the even mention of PTS and not other more humane options mentioned. (HORSES - CAN BE RE-HOMED!)

I have obviously upset people tonight and my opinions are not what peaople on this site agree with -

So ... I am officially signing off - I am sure I wont be missed!
 
Taking part in discussions or offering advice on a forum means being able to discuss a topic without being abusive, its not what is said but often how it is said that offends others.

I have seen many of your other posts and think you need to learn to express yourself in a calmer manner.

I too would choose to keep my pony as a pet and give up riding rather than have her PTS if she was unrideable yet field sound, BUT......

I also fully understand that not everyone feels the same way as I do, that many see horses as working animals and most importantly, I feel it is wrong to judge anyone who chooses to PTS because no one makes the decision lightly and its hard enough without people giving them grief when they don't know or understand the full picture.

Stay, sit back and learn. Learn that life isn't so black and white :)
 
rachmacypixie111 said:
Beacuse the even mention of PTS on a healthy horse upsets me - I know horses cant be pets but if I took on a horse on and for some reason it couldnt do what I had planned for it - well ok - i cant do what I had set out for.

I dont expect anyone to agree
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But it's not everyone agreeing it is you forcing your opinions on people in a very thoughtless and aggressive manner.

Every post you have made has been aggressive, these people are going through heart wrenching decisions and don't need your abuse. In both cases the horses aren't healthy horses, they both have serious problems. If you don't like the subject of pts then stay away from those threads.

With all of the abuse and starvation in this day and age, pts is a much kinder fate than ending up somewhere like Amersham!
 
rachmacypixie111 said:
Beacuse the even mention of PTS on a healthy horse upsets me - I know horses cant be pets but if I took on a horse on and for some reason it couldnt do what I had planned for it - well ok - i cant do what I had set out for.

I dont expect anyone to agree
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The two threads you are referring to where you were incredibly rude, aggressive and obviously hadn't read them properly.

One thread, the OP stated quite clearly that PTS was not an option, that it had been mentioned to her and she didn't want anyone posting on the thread to put that forward as an option. Yet you ranted on how out of order she was considering PTS - you didn't read it properly.

The second thread, the horse is NOT healthy. You've mentioned above that PTS of a healthy horse upsets you. The horse on that thread has a chronic condition, it's not an injury that will get better. The horse is in pain, will most likely have to spend it's days buted up. Yet you still did the same as the other thread. People pointed out the horse was in pain, chronic pain yet you latched onto one sentence where the OP said she couldn't afford 2 horses and wanted one to ride etc.

Of course everyone is entitled to an opinion, you weren't giving an opinion, you were refusing the read the threads properly and ranting.
 
Re PTS sometimes it is for the best. if the horse can never lead a comfortable life as a pet/companion without daily doses of pain relif etc then surely it is better to PTS before they suffer. We as owners owe them the dignfied end without suffering and the same goes for any animal.

If the horse can have a happy life as a pet/companion and owner can afford to then great but not all of us have that endless flow of money, they may PTS as least tthey know the horse has a dignified end to their life.
There is too many stories on here about horses out on loan as a companion and sold on as a riding horse when it cant be ridden. I personally think that is crueler then PTS.

TBH who wants a 16hh+ TB (who tend to be expensive) as an companion?
 
Passing on a chronically unsound horse, or one with unresolved severe behavioural issues is irresponsible; having them humanely pts if other options have been considered is not. IMO.

You come across as someone who likes to have their voice heard, often without bothering to actually be sure of the facts. TBH I assumed you were a young teenager :)

If you want to leave, leave, no-one will stop you. If you want to stay, great. But if you are too sensitive to accept that sometimes pts is the most humane option then you would be better not being on a horse forum. I will be devastated when I need to make that decision for my boy, but it's the most important decision I will ever have to make in regards to him. I have seen close family members in chronic pain from terminal conditions and been incapable of helping but at least I can ensure my boy will not suffer unnecessarily.
 
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I think you have to accept that people have different opinions to you on this subject - doesn't make any one person right or wrong, just different.

I'm a strong advocate of PTS if you have a horse that you can't keep and which has problems either physical or mental. The (strong IMHO) possibility of them spiralling down the food chain in those circumstances is too big a risk for me. Realistically as they are big, expensive animals that most people would like to able to handle safely and/or ride/drive/whatever your hobby is so when it all goes wrong it is scary and doubly disappointing for the owner.

The easy option is to wave them off to a new home with a warm glow that it's all going to be alright - it doesn't matter how honest you are with the new owner/rider, there are many people with a far too high an opinion of their ability to deal with a difficult horse so they cause the horse further problems before they give up and pass them on - can you see the downward spiral starting? On the other hand, holding a horse while they are shot/PTS isn't easy - slightly easier to cope with when you are certain that you are relieving physical suffering - but at least that horse is safe once they drop - no auctions, no left uncared for in a field or stable , no "cowboy" trying to batter them into submission, no more trips to the vet, no more aches and pains. For the human, no more worry and stress, unaffordable vet bills (cos the insurance has run out) but it's not an easy decision for anybody and those posters deserve a bit more manners from you even if you disagree with them. Their horse, their call after all.
 
rachmacypixie111 said:
Beacuse the even mention of PTS on a healthy horse upsets me - I know horses cant be pets

I dont expect anyone to agree
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Oh dear , I must be on the wrong planet cos to me my horse isn't just a pet ????, he's my best friend , confident , my equal , I give him the best life i possibly can in return for friendship , trust and honesty , he carries me on his back wherever i choose to go , without question , malice or drudgery , i think i would owe it to him to end his life should it be painful , it would be my gift to him.
 
OP, with all due respect, the horse is not healthy, it has some serious health issues which seem unresolvable.

Are you saying therefore that you believe in life at any cost?

Also if you had read the whole post you would have seen how the discussion progressed from posters saying 'treat, and give the horse more time', to put it down - as more information became available.
 
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