Other liveries "borrowed" my lorry. Bit annoyed !

One of them just phoned me and she was so so sorry, she thought other lady had asked me and visa versa.. We are having a meeting in the morning. Oh it's all been such a worry.. She said they did fuel up lorry, and I can't see any damage to it. YO was away for the weekend but assumed they had phoned me!!!
It won't happen again, once bitten ect.
 
ROMANY 1959 said:
Oh gosh.. I am so worked up bout this, they are two nice ladies, I think they fuelled it, cos I never left much in the tank. And my insurance is anyone over 25. With permission of course.
Nothing like this has ever happend b4. .
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with your permission being the key factor... and even then, surely the insurance is only 3rd party?
 
Basically they are TWOC ers, no better than the teenagers who steal cars and joy ride in them. W

They really need to know that, together with the fact that they were not insured.

Can they even drive a wagon, they could have killed or seriously injured someone, plus written off your wagon. And best case they have caused wear and tear to your tyres, engine, reduced the service interval.

Honestly it is irresponsible of you not to inform the police, you need to tell them that. As I dont suppose you will, the least they can do is cough up £100 quid hire cost.
 
Ok - tell them you are very dissapointed that they felt they value you so little that they could take advantage of you in this manner. That there are plenty of horse transporters that they could have used. You are embarresed on THEIR behalf of the lies they told the YO, and that they should be prepared for a bill when your lorry has been in for a check in the next few days.

Tell them that you will pass the full bill onto them, and then ask them not to even breath on any of your property again as any request to use something of yours will not be forthcoming.

Say that this has left a very bad feeling on the yard, and you do not wish to associate with liars, you expect an apology to the YO and to yourself.

(then hit them with the snow shovel)
 
If they could not contact you for your permission then they should have gone and hired a lorry, not just taken yours anyway!!!! If they had an accident in your lorry I bet they would not be dipping into their pockets to pay out, also you say your insurance is for anyone over 25 with permission...they had NO permission! So were driving illegally.

I also hate confrontation but please do confront them and do not make excuses for them. If you are that desperate to go and collect a horse then you do not illegally drive someone elses lorry. End of.
 
They're not nice ladies at all! They took your lorry without your consent (which is illegal) and lied in order to do it. Stop acting like a doormat! I would be livid :mad:
 
they were not insured unless they have there own insurance! as they were driving without your permission, hope there are no speeding tickets on there way to you!! coz you can't sau they are yours, thats quite an offence as well.
I like an easy life as well, but think you have to do something, even if its to take keys into your own possession
 
Jeeze....what would you have done if they had "borrowed" your horse or your "husband", took em out for lunch?

Get mad, stop being a nice person, they do not deserve it, neither of them are nice, they are now back tracking, the other one will either bull it out or try and make you feel like you are guilty - get your yo and you when you see them and remember they are not nice, they are liars, out and out liars.
 
ROMANY 1959 said:
Oh that made me smile... They also borrow my barrow and brush and fork. But they do ask..!!
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I'm not normally one to become indignant......but this made me fume!! They may come across as 'nice ladies', but they are NOT and obviously know you don't do confrontation so felt that you'd be a walk over! Please don't take me the wrong way.. I hate confrontation, but they are taking the proverbial and will continue to do so unless you put your foot down. If they can't afford their own yard equipment, why the hell have they got horses?! I will willingly help anyone out if they ask, but will not be used as a doormat! Tell them you are truly hurt that they took your property without permission, thus invalidating your insurance and as a result you are having to change your way of doing things inconveniencing both yourself and YO as you now keep all the horsebox keys to yourself. Make sure you send them on the biggest guilt trip ever and do not accept an apology- they took your property without gaining permission beforehand = theft!
 
ROMANY 1959 said:
One of them just phoned me and she was so so sorry, she thought other lady had asked me and visa versa.. We are having a meeting in the morning. Oh it's all been such a worry.. She said they did fuel up lorry, and I can't see any damage to it. YO was away for the weekend but assumed they had phoned me!!!
It won't happen again, once bitten ect.
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Are you a mechanic?

We can all check bodywork etc, but not all of us are mechanically competant....

Please, get a full mechanical check of all working parts - as to replace a clutch where a novice has been riding on the pedal & burning it out is NOT cheap.
Also brakes are there to save your life - get them checked too.
I'd be getting everything checked over by your own mechanic & making sure these ladies are paying for it too.

Please please do not mess about being nice, this is YOUR safety & will come out of your pocket in another few weeks time if anything does go wrong mechanically.
 
I would be so angry you would have to hide implements which I could use to kill them...how dare they.
No insurance, didn't replace or fill up the fuel, do they have the correct licence? What if they drove through a speed camera, how do you explain that one to a court to avoid 3 points and a fine???
What if they had an accident not only with other road users but with the horse they were transporting?
I can't believe the YO was so irresponsible to even allow it.

Only in an emergency life or death situation should the YO give the keys out and collecting a horse isn't one if them.

Good grief...I'm angry for you!!
I would put together an invoice for fuel and hiring fees of your box hand it to them tomoz demand payment and tell them if they ever, ever do anything like that again you'll call the police or break their legs!!
 
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ROMANY 1959 said:
One of them just phoned me and she was so so sorry, she thought other lady had asked me and visa versa.. We are having a meeting in the morning. Oh it's all been such a worry.. She said they did fuel up lorry, and I can't see any damage to it. YO was away for the weekend but assumed they had phoned me!!!
It won't happen again, once bitten ect.
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They are liars. How on EARTH could that be a plausible explanation!
 
Of course they are bloody sorry!!! Sorry they got caught and/or you have had the bottle to confront them about it. The deed is done IMO and sorry wouldnt have fixed any damage to your lorry.
 
Well when you get them in a room with the YO you can ask them how the miss understanding occured.

Again until you have the vehicle cheked how do you know they have not burnt the clutch out, worn the brakes out, hit some other road user, hit the tyres on the kerb etc etc
 
Gingerwitch said:
Well when you get them in a room with the YO you can ask them how the miss understanding occured.

Again until you have the vehicle cheked how do you know they have not burnt the clutch out, worn the brakes out, hit some other road user, hit the tyres on the kerb etc etc
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The answer is if course they have! I tow trailers for a living and am very experienced at driving large vans etc but I still managed to clip a kerb when I drove a 3.5t box for the first time. If they have only driven cars before they WILL have been burning the clutch and clipping things!
 
ROMANY 1959 said:
One of them just phoned me and she was so so sorry, she thought other lady had asked me and visa versa.. We are having a meeting in the morning. Oh it's all been such a worry.. She said they did fuel up lorry, and I can't see any damage to it...
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If they thought it was all above board why didn't they bother thanking you for lending it to them? That would be the polite thing to do...right?

Kick their butt! You don't take a lorry without asking the owner. No excuses! They could have hired a lorry if it was an emergency!
 
You're a bit annoyed, I would be absolutely furious! They lied to YO and took your lorry without your permission and they haven't even bothered to tell you, who the hell do they think they are :eek:

I would ask to see her with the YO because you are both involved. I would tell her you are absolutely furious and taking without permission is actually theft and had they been stopped they would not have been insured plus you would have been in trouble because you don't have an operators licence. If she didn't put fuel in I would be insisting she did and I would make it clear to YO, (who I presume has got a set of keys) that no one is to use your lorry in future.

You won't be causing an atmosphere, they are the ones who have created this situation. I can't believe the nerve of the woman
 
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ROMANY 1959 said:
Have bit bullet and sent both ladies a text message saying need to see them tomorrow and why I want to see them. They are nice ladies - OP stop with the NICE! You are giving me a head-desk moment!:p, I understand nine out of ten would be lividIncorrect, 10 out of 10 would be livid, but I can't cause ructionsYes, you can! But the bottom line is with their behavior they have caused the ructions , It's not in my nature. The day they went in lorry was the day I was flying so phone was off for more than 16 hours...That is insignificant, it doesn't matter if you were flying or dead, they had no permission and should not have used it - at the very least I would have expected a flipping missed call from them to show they had tried to contact you I was out of contact all that day it is not their lorry, its yours, whichever way they or you try and truss this up they had no right to even consider doing such a thing!. There has to be an explanation or crossed wiresGod you are nice, trying for sainthood? BS you can't cross wires that flipping much!. I should not have let it go for 5 days without saying something.
Am I making too many excuses!! yes xx Oh we'll I will muster up Dutch courage and confront them in the morning..
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Good luck, and just remember, if for one second you feel like you are the one apologising - mentally slap yourself, there is absolutely no way they should feel even remotely in the right on this.
 
I would be fuming!

How dare they?!

Forget about worrying about causing bad feeling.
What they did was totally wrong and they need telling!

Would they have been covered by insurance?
What would have happened in an accident.
Damage to your lorry?
 
Can I ask OP, why on earth has you YO got keys to YOUR lorry? I would be removing them ASAP. Sorry, really angry for you and I hope you sort it out
 
Gingerwitch said:
Ok - tell them you are very dissapointed that they felt they value you so little that they could take advantage of you in this manner. That there are plenty of horse transporters that they could have used. You are embarresed on THEIR behalf of the lies they told the YO, and that they should be prepared for a bill when your lorry has been in for a check in the next few days.

Tell them that you will pass the full bill onto them, and then ask them not to even breath on any of your property again as any request to use something of yours will not be forthcoming.

Say that this has left a very bad feeling on the yard, and you do not wish to associate with liars, you expect an apology to the YO and to yourself.

(then hit them with the snow shovel)
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The above... Although Id hit them twice and YO once :p
 
ROMANY 1959 said:
Have bit bullet and sent both ladies a text message saying need to see them tomorrow and why I want to see them. They are nice ladies, I understand nine out of ten would be livid, but I can't cause ructions , It's not in my nature. The day they went in lorry was the day I was flying so phone was off for more than 16 hours... I was out of contact all that day. There has to be an explanation or crossed wires. I should not have let it go for 5 days without saying something.
Am I making too many excuses!! Oh we'll I will muster up Dutch courage and confront them in the morning..
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Yes you are making excuses for them - they took your lorry without permission and without it they should not have taken it. Can't believe each of them thought the other had asked, they are obviously coming up with excuses together which is even more annoying. I'm an easy going person although for this I would have to speak to them and make it clear what they did is totally unacceptable and you are thinking of ringing police. That will make them think before doing this to anyone again.

If YO was away where did they get your keys from?
 
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Echo everyone else - they have driven illegally, and honestly I would report them. If a speeding ticket arrives you will have to take it, as reporting theft after you get one will just cause problems for you.

If someone ever took my lorry out without my permission I would most probably batter them to a pulp!
 
Not sure if anyone else has said this but some thing doesnt seem right to me, I believe the YO knew you didnt give them permission to take the lorry and let them take it not thinking you would find out and just said make sure you fill it up etc. If she really thought that you had given them permission why how would she know they were considering calling your on holiday to ask to borrow the box? It doesnt make sense to me! I think you just need to see that people are taking advantage of you, YO to, and just say your not happy. You dont need to go in all guns blazing but some thing needs to be said, how can you let them affect you from going down to d your horse? Dont let it get like that! x
 
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