Our elderly mare covered by next door stables stallion

pembrokewhisper said:
Did not know she was covered by the stallion at the time, she has had other health issues to concern about since then, another mare in same field was injured and later aborted, i'm not mystic meg, she showed no sign , and anyway if any incident is caused by another humans neglect then in law that human is liable, who rattled your cage? you got an icleland? .
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Oh I'm enjoying this far too much to stop. Did you not have sex education when you went to school? Were you completely unaware that a stallion in a field of mares in summer is more than likely to impregnate a few?. All you needed to do was check. Your mistake, your cost. There was no liability or neglect, the fences/banks were good, the horse behaved like a horse. Tough luck. Suck it up.
 
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pembrokewhisper said:
Hi everybody, I am after some advice. Our 23 year old registered new forest mare has been mated by the next door farms icelandic stallion without our knowledge. We did not know until last summer when we found him in our field and the boundry fence which is theirs broken down. She is now in foal and because of her age we are concerned. she is our only horse and a family pet, we never intended breeding from her, just a pet. We are concerned due to her age about her having this foul but its coming so we can not change that. We want the vet very heavily involved to ensure both her and her fouls safety. Is our next door farmer liable for vets fees, as we never asked for this, it is her badly maintained fence and she knew the far where our mare is had other mares in the same field. Our mare is already retired due to laminitis, we are worried about her going through this. Can we make the next door farm which breeds Icelandic ponies for a living pay for the vets fees our pony will need in this. Thanks for any replies in advance all advice greatfully received. :(
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pembrokewhisper said:
In far west wales the fences are different than many other places, Here they are 5-6 foot high very steep double stone wall banks covered in turf just like in cornwall, even humans struggle to go over them, on her side high volt electric fence and thorn /gorse bush on top of bank. on our side more electric fence and full length sheep fence wire and post all around. Her horny stallion smashed the lot. What else do you expect us to do to protect our pet, She is not a riding horse, just a pet?.
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She was in the field when the stallion broke through, what sounds like very secure fencing, so you did know that there was every possibility she was covered by him, you did nothing at the time to terminate the pregnancy which would have been simple, non invasive and the stallion owner would have been liable for paying.

It us too late now to start a vendetta, I googled and soon found the stud you are complaining about, it would make far more sense to take the advice already given on here, arrange for your mare to foal down at the stud under experienced supervision and make the best of what was an unfortunate situation badly handled by all involved, not least yourself by assuming she was not covered.

A 23 year old NF should be fine foaling down, I have a NF who was born when his dam was a similar age, she went on to have another 2 years later, not exactly planned by the breeder but she kept her small herd together and did not want to take the stallion who was even older away from his mares so allowed nature to decide.
 
Issue is our mare is old , ill and only a pet to our kid who will not accept her going in birth to a foul we never wanted or planned, also to avoid old man who does competition clay pigeon every weekend feeding the local hunt with that stallion, and he will regardless.
 
pembrokewhisper said:
Issue is our mare is old , ill and only a pet to our kid who will not accept her going in birth to a foul we never wanted or planned, also to avoid old man who does competition clay pigeon every weekend feeding the local hunt with that stallion, and he will regardless.
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Made no sense.

If your mare is so old and sick, are you really being a good owner by letting her survive? If your child won't accept her having a foal, then maybe you should not let child have any pets.
 
pembrokewhisper said:
Issue is our mare is old , ill and only a pet to our kid who will not accept her going in birth to a foul we never wanted or planned, also to avoid old man who does competition clay pigeon every weekend feeding the local hunt with that stallion, and he will regardless.
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Why didn't you abort it ?

Your husband is a fool, but since you are making threats against the stallion, in case you are not simply a troll, I have contacted the stud I believe that you are talking about to warn them. This is not a joke. Neither is threatening to shoot someone else's horse with a shotgun.
 
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Have you always been a complete ******** or did it take a university degree

If your mare is so old and sick, are you really being a good owner by letting her survive? If your child won't accept her having a foal, then maybe you should not let child have any pets
 
23 is not really old, laminitis is not ideal in a mare about to give birth but growing the foal and then feeding it may actually pull her down a bit and reduce the laminitis risk this spring, your husband cannot go round shooting other peoples property, he will be arrested and that will have a worse effect on your family life than the birth of a foal.
If the vet who is treating your mare is really concerned for her health I would expect him to offer advice on all aspects of her care, your child can be involved and may enjoy having a healthy foal to meet if you treat it as a positive experience rather than a negative one.
 
Hello again, OP,

Your horse might be a pet but she is a HORSE first and foremost. The time for preventative action is long gone so for the sake of your horse and the foAl she is carrying you now need to make foaling arrangements well in advance.

Forget about grudges. I don't see how parents alienating people who otherwise might be an asset in this situation will help your child. Your family constellation is irrelevant to the situation at hand.

Give your neighbour a friendly ring about foaling arrangements once your mare has been seen by a vet.
 
pembrokewhisper said:
Have you always been a complete ******** or did it take a university degree

If your mare is so old and sick, are you really being a good owner by letting her survive? If your child won't accept her having a foal, then maybe you should not let child have any pets
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I have a degree, i also have common sense which is clearly lacking in other peoples cases...
 
pembrokewhisper said:
Have you always been a complete ******** or did it take a a university degree

If your mare is so old and sick, are you really being a good owner by letting her survive? If your child won't accept her having a foal, then maybe you should not let child have any pets
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Pembrokewhisper, there is trolling and trolling. Threatening to shoot someone else's horse at a real life business is not acceptable, and I am about to report this thread to admin and try to have it removed.
 
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ycbm said:
Pembrokeshire, there is trolling and trolling. Threatening to shoot someone else's horse at a real life business is not acceptable, and I am about to report this thread to admin and try to have it removed.
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Quite. Actual threats to shoot a stallion who has bred a mare is stupid. Owner is entirely at fault for not getting the vet sooner!
 
ycbm said:
Pembrokewhisper, there is trolling and trolling. Threatening to shoot someone else's horse at a real life business is not acceptable, and I am about to report this thread to admin and try to have it removed.
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NO NO NO, don't report it, trolls are fun.

Pembroke-waspy, not all foals are foul, trust me!

Alec.
 
Those Pembrokeshire banks are 5-6 foot high, thought i would explain that to you as your once in a lifetime Sun newspaper £9.50 holiday does not cover over here in the real world. Boundry on our side very well maintained, have sheep fencing and where needed electric fencing on the whole property all around and is all above the usual standard for a livery stables. On the other farmers side its not maintained well, her husband has serious medical issues that prevent him form keeping it upto standard, poor chap. Although she claims her electric fence is high voltage its not in good condition or continuous or even proven to be on. An icelandic pony stallion who is really, really horny can as they were bred for in iceland very easily climb a volcano let alone a small bank in wales, and who's owner agreed to never put stallions in the next field to our mares previously and only put her young stallions in that field to protect her own breeding mares for stud business reasons, is in not only in my mine but my old mans view fully liable and my old man does what he see's fit. We did not know our mare was served at the time, many other people locally and at the yard said she was not served and she showed no signs, she is only for a pet for our child not a full breeding or riding mare. She is at pasture and not meant to be messed with.
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE . MOST LIKELY JUST ANOTHER SAD IDIOT ON THE NET WHO TROLLS PEOPLE ASKING FOR ADVICE FROM OTHERS WHO MAY HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE OF SUCH ISSUES. THATS REAL PEOPLE NOT AND A*SE WIPE LIKE YOURSELF. Thanks for your wasted time you should have spent it more profitably getting a ****** life.
 
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Above post as aimed at that moron who keeps talking *****e above due to having no life and trolloing people on here, just look above to see who , the one with the fake pictures of other peoples ponies. Thanks to all who gave real advice, thankyou.
 
New person joins - asks advice - gets advice - doesn't like advice given - throws tantrum - spits out dummy - stamps foot.

Darn it people, can't you just follow the OP's script? :D:D:D
 
OP, you didn't come here looking for advice at all, you came looking for validation. You are incorrect in your assertion that the stallion owner is liable in any way for this foal. By not having your mare tested, by choosing to believe your mare had not been served by the stallion, you have accepted the presence of the foal you have condoned the pairing and will now have the benefit of the foal. The stallion owner has no case to answer either legally or morally. You are in the wrong and no amount of capslocking is going to change that.
 
pembrokewhisper said:
Above post as aimed at that moron who keeps talking *****e above due to having no life and trolloing people on here, just look above to see who , the one with the fake pictures of other peoples ponies. Thanks to all who gave real advice, thankyou.
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Hahaha considering im the only one with pics, i assume that is me. Very odd, considering each of the horses* are in my stables and under my full care...

Maybe you need to move your precious mare to an island so that the only horses who can breed her are seahorses...
 
ycbm said:
I am going to get shot down for this, but now you have introduced a disabled child, which is irrelevant, and are a brand new poster clearly looking for a fight, I firmly believe that you are a troll. Well tried. I'm out, except for getting the popcorn out to watch how this goes now.
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Just what I was thinking.

If she is for real she and her OH sound charming!
 
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op, i think you have anger problems.
**** happens , your mare is in foal. Its not the end of the world, imagine how good this could be for your child when the foal arrives.
Maybe you should stand back from it a little bit, sometimes when something feels really bad it turns out the best thing ever. babies bring their own love.
also its a foal not a foul, not evan born yet and you have made up your mind that you hate it. Not nice.
 
But Alec it is great, just like a play on the radio...I have enjoyed every minute, if she is real I feel sorry for the disabled child, it's parents sound like a right pair.
 
Just reiterating what others are saying.
Our elderly warmblood mare cam in from the field in a bad way last year with bite marks and hoof marks on her back and bleeding from her lady bits. a couple of our geldings sporting some injuries too. Our next door neighbours has two stallions at stud and normally they are turned out in p0ens on the far side of their fields away from us but they had been having work done so turned the one out in a field bordering ours. the fencing is fence hedge then fence but it was completely demolished where he got through. Our vet confirmed our mare had been covered and the neighbours paid for treatment for the geldings and her including her abortion. and they put up the new fencing within 2 hrs.
The stallion in question is very prestigious and it costs a fortune to get a mare covered by him. but definitely not worth chance of damaging by mares health with the risks of a foal. with yours maybe you should have aborted at the time and charged her the vet fees.
 
Alec - it nees to remian so IF this is real & the OP hubby does due something stupid it will be easier for the courts to convict & shut a violent nutter away for a few years.
Actually nough has already been posted for the stud owner to phone the police & make a complaint about him having a shotgun licence.
 
Well, what a lovely troll! I am the owner of the "horny Icelandic stallion", a 2 year old 13hh colt. He did break out last year, once, through our 3 strand electric fence with 9kv on it, over our 4 foot stone bank with another 3ft of blackthorn hedge on top, then over next door's stock fence into their field. He was in there for approx 20 minutes, with one mare and 3 geldings. At the time the owner of the mare was not around, but the owner(s) of the geldings assured me the mare was not in foal, not covered, and she certainly showed no signs of it (ie stickiness around her tail etc). I did of course offer to pay for the "morning after" injection but no-one came back to me on that. If she is now in foal, it's the first I've heard of it. I don't make a fortune all over the place breeding horses (LOL!!! we usually have no more than 2 foals a year) - our horses are not "thrown out loose on the surrounding moorland" - we have a conservation grazing agreement with Pembrokeshire Coast National Park and the National Trust for our young and retired horses to keep brush on the surrounding commons in check - and "my husband" (what husband?) isn't too ill to maintain fences. I do actually know the owner of the mare, and she should be advised that threatening me or my horses on a public forum is not a sensible idea. I have copies of all her threats and will be taking legal advice. My thanks to all of you who have tried to make her see some sense. Mic Rushen - Solva Icelandics.
 
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