Overnight charge for keeping little dogs at my home

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HI, well I did say I would do emergency animal care, and got two little yappies to look after, they have been here three days, two nights, wondering what to charge, they are not a great pleasure, one is aggressive and t'other a nervous wreck.
I don't want to be landed with them too often ............. the owner is getting married in two weeks, so worse case scenario is that I might be landed with them for two to three weeks!!!!!!!!!
I have done a bit of training as I do not tolerate biting aggression from a lttle yappie, but I can 't charge for that as owner is not really bothered.
No charge for food, they get pork chops and steak, provided by owner.
 
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I give a dog sitter £28 per night for a large dog. I provide the food. She is walked daily. This is fairly standard in my area. A friend sometimes has her as a favour and I give her £20 per night, although she wanted no money.
On this basis if it's not a friend and you are walking them too say £25 per dog as they are smaller with a reduction for 2, say £45 per night.
 
My dog walker, who has clients well behaved dogs for sleep overs charges £20 per night per dog. Value for the client varies as the dog could go first thing for all day, one night and all next day and it costs £20. Or it could go from evening till morning and cost £20. There is a small discount for two dogs from the same household and regular clients.
One of my flatcoats is going from late on Tuesday until midday Sunday while I am at Burghley. I provide the food, she provides all care and exercise. I am expecting to pay£100.
 
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I charge £20 for a 24 hour period and £15 for day care. I'm licensed and insured - and say no quite happily to dogs that don't pass our initial iinitial assessment.
 
amymay said:
I charge £20 for a 24 hour period and £15 for day care. I'm licensed and insured - and say no quite happily to dogs that don't pass our initial iinitial assessment.
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
This yappie would not pass any initial asessment, but I* am quite up to dealing with a yappie.
 
The dogs were delivered needing to poop [i HATE LIFITING hot DOG SHYTE]
So £100 for three days? seems q lot, but I am happy with that.
I am insured, but not for dogs.
What would a kennel charge?
 
It is a long time since I boarded a dog, so I don't know current rates. I have commented as I am surprised a price was not agreed prior to the animals arriving. It seems to me that if you are not insured, the owners may think it is a cheap job, and you may not.

I am not saying what is right and what is wrong, just that the current arrangement would lend itself to ill feeling through the arrangements not being set down beforehand. For this reason I would perhaps find out the costs of a kennel, and then discuss the price with the owners, rather than telling them a price.
 
Bonkers2 said:
I am insured, but not for dogs.
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So, what happens if one of the little darlings has an accident requiring veterinary care or causes an accident to another (dog or human) whilst with you? If the owners decide to reclaim the cost from their insurance then the insurers will want to know in whose care the dog was and will ask about your insurance. You could become liable if you don't have any.

Amymay also talks about being licensed. Is your local council aware of the service you are offering?

Am also amazed that you have had the dogs already with you for three days and are now asking on a forum what to charge? Have you not discussed this with the owners already? Can't believe you haven't told the owners your charges and can't believe the owners have left the dogs without knowing what costs they are incurring and checking your credentials - ie insurance.
 
gunnergundog said:
So, what happens if one of the little darlings has an accident requiring veterinary care or causes an accident to another (dog or human) whilst with you? If the owners decide to reclaim the cost from their insurance then the insurers will want to know in whose care the dog was and will ask about your insurance. You could become liable if you don't have any.

Amymay also talks about being licensed. Is your local council aware of the service you are offering?

Am also amazed that you have had the dogs already with you for three days and are now asking on a forum what to charge? Have you not discussed this with the owners already? Can't believe you haven't told the owners your charges and can't believe the owners have left the dogs without knowing what costs they are incurring and checking your credentials - ie insurance.
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ty, I don't need any more from you .............
They were desperate, I took the dogs, what is your problem?
I know their vet, how likely is it the dear little craturs cause an accident? No money has been discussed. You are beyond unreasonable. Insuring would be a minimal charge.
Local council, don't make me laff, I am not an unlicensed kennels or breeding operation.
If the dog is ill I take it to their vet.
To be frank, I am able judge that these people are normal, and reasonable, in fact "pillars of the community"
 
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Got a problem? :D Lack of insurance, lack of license, lack of planning - is that enough of a problem for you? Accident waiting to happen, so don't get on the defensive - oh, and I assume you will of course be reporting whatever you earn to the Inland Revenue.
 
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Bonkers2 said:
Local council, don't make me laff, I am not an unlicensed kennels or breeding operation.
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Actually, it would appear that you are. I refer you here; https://www.gov.uk/animal-boarding-establishment-licence

Contact your council to apply for an animal boarding establishment licence if you want to run a boarding kennel or cattery in England, Wales or Scotland.

An animal boarding establishment is a business that provides accommodation for other people’s dogs or cats.

An animal boarding establishment licence needs to be renewed every year.


You still need to apply for a licence even if you’re only looking after a small number of animals in your own home.
 
Rubbish I know all the rules and regulations as I used to work in local government, in the dog licencing department and have inspected more premises than you can imagine. Please do not post again.
 
Bonkers2 said:
Rubbish I know all the rules and regulations as I used to work in local government, in the dog licencing department and have inspected more premises than you can imagine. Please do not post again.
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Ha! Looks like you need to update the currency of your information/knowledge then doesn't it? That is, of course, unless someone reports you before you can get your house in order. :)
 
If bonkers knows the owners I can't see that licensing is necessary, it is not providing a service to strangers like Amymay does. I look after my mother's dog when necessary and she gives me wine as payment, do I need a license? I think we can get a bit overcome with legislation in this country. Common sense does still exist. I have no idea what to charge though.
 
gunnergundog said:
Ha! Looks like you need to update the currency of your information/knowledge then doesn't it? That is, of course, unless someone reports you before you can get your house in order. :)
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Please do report me, [another timewaster], I suggest you pay my Council about £100 to "investigate" and HMRC about £500
You give me your NI number and I'll give you mine.
[The man is an idiot].
 
Clodagh said:
If bonkers knows the owners I can't see that licensing is necessary, it is not providing a service to strangers like Amymay does. I look after my mother's dog when necessary and she gives me wine as payment, do I need a license? I think we can get a bit overcome with legislation in this country. Common sense does still exist. I have no idea what to charge though.
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I do it for a friend's dog. I look on it as doing a favour, don't do it as a business. I get paid in wine or sometimes money but I never set a charge.
 
Sandstone1 said:
I do it for a friend's dog. I look on it as doing a favour, don't do it as a business. I get paid in wine or sometimes money but I never set a charge.
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Yes, but in the very first line of her post the OP say that she provides emergency animal care. Now, looking after your mother's dog (a la Clodagh above) is one thing, providing emergency care is another I would suggest.
 
I do not have full horse vet cover, I do not have BUPA, I do not have personal accident insurance, I do not have insurance for my mobile phone or my camera or my bicycle either. When I die I will not get a refund from anyone. I don't have to have insurance for my micro business, but I do at the moment, next year I probably won't. It does not cost much, but the risk is minimal.
I have not yet got any money for the dog care, the Q is how much is too much, how much is too little, as I don't particularly want them again, but don't want to offend anyone, so better to charge somewhere between £60 and £100, bearing in mind they are going away again for 2-3 weeks, so £35 per day = about £500!.
It is quite restricting as they need three or four walks per day, and some training as I can't put up with their behaviour as it is at the moment.
 
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Bonkers2 said:
I do not have full horse vet cover, I do not have BUPA, I do not have personal accident insurance, I do not have insurance for my mobile phone or my camera or my bicycle either. When I die I will not get a refund from anyone. I don't have to have insurance for my micro business, but I do at the moment, next year I probably won't. It does not cost much, but the risk is minimal. I have not got any money for the dog care, the Q is how much is too much, how much is too little, as I don't particularly want them again.
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Whether you insure your mobile, your horse or your body is your choice.

HOWEVER, when you are providing a service for someone else not to have insurance of any type, let alone public liability, is folly. Trust you realise the implications of this, as well as to what you are writing on a public forum. (I have mentioned this before to give you a hint, but ho hum!)

Anyway, I now have a dinner to cook so you won't hear from me again until tomorrow morning, earliest. Sweet dreams! :)
 
gunnergundog said:
Whether you insure your mobile, your horse or your body is your choice.

HOWEVER, when you are providing a service for someone else not to have insurance of any type, let alone public liability, is folly. Trust you realise the implications of this, as well as to what you are writing on a public forum. (I have mentioned this before to give you a hint, but ho hum!)

Anyway, I now have a dinner to cook so you won't hear from me again until tomorrow morning, earliest. Sweet dreams! :)
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It is my choice what to insure, not your choice, except that if I if I want to drive on a public roads I do need insurance. Other than that I am free to choose.

Honestly , I do not want to hear from you again. Ever.

I would not mind paying income tax, if only I could earn enough!
 
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Bonkers, I mean this nicely, but if you don't want the dogs again, or like them then tell the owner. I would hate for my dog to be with someone who didn't really want him about especially if I was paying for the privilege.
 
MotherOfChickens said:
Bonkers, I mean this nicely, but if you don't want the dogs again, or like them then tell the owner. I would hate for my dog to be with someone who didn't really want him about especially if I was paying for the privilege.
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They are not that bad, ie they are tolerable, and are perfectly happy here, they get more walks and more attention than when at home, and if I had them for two weeks they would both be much better for it, but I would not do it for nothing as they are a bit of a PIA, well one is, t'other is a poor wee soul.
All I am saying is, I would not want them for 2-3 weeks with no recompense. They get four mini walks a day and I need to be at home if they are in the garden, and I would not want to leave them for more than four hours alone, so it is restrictive, though I could take them to work some days.
Owner's OH said the dog did not mean anything by his snarling and growling, but I wore thick leather gloves when I handled him, and made sure he behaved himself, I could train him not to bite and growl but owner thinks its acceptable lol. which is presumably why the dog thinks so too :)
 
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The kennel I just had my three at charges £25 a day, discounted to £15 for the third dog. The set up is very secure in the yard of a private house, used to be a stables. She has a 2 acre field which is safely stock fenced. Dogs are put in there and supervised (not with unknown dogs)

Bonkers, please use Userignore rather than us lot have to read a playground exchange.
 
cinnamontoast said:
The kennel I just had my three at charges £25 a day, discounted to £15 for the third dog. The set up is very secure in the yard of a private house, used to be a stables. She has a 2 acre field which is safely stock fenced. Dogs are put in there and supervised (not with unknown dogs)

Bonkers, please use Userignore rather than us lot have to read a playground exchange.
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Right ty. I did not know how to do that, but will now :)
Done.
It seems to me that "£60 for three days [2 nights] would be reasonable. and if they wanted them here for 15 nights that would be be £450, I can t see them wanting to pay that much, it has not been discussed. but I would include pork chops and steak mince for that!
 
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