Overweight event riders- Discuss

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Is it wrong I'm reading this having just polished off a huge bag of kettle chips, and now starting on my 4th Easter Egg???
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Yes it is wrong, and you will rot in hell along with close contact saddles, overheating cross country boots, Parelli carrot sticks and anything else that we demi-Gods of this forum decide is unacceptable.
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Shall we start a "what I ate today" post so that us greedy guts have to 'fess to eating chocolate regularly? Or shall we just name and shame any HHOers we see out and about eating Jaffa cakes or drinking Pimms (you know who you are)?
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Oh, I have a close contact saddle too, and I'm pretty sure my XC boots probably boil Hen's legs....
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I vote for pinch testing in the start box!
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Or perhaps the start box could have a weigh bridge floor, then if your collective weight is over a tonne, you can't start
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I vote for pinch testing in the start box!
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Or perhaps the start box could have a weigh bridge floor, then if your collective weight is over a tonne, you can't start
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That actually made me laugh out loud!!!
 
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I vote for pinch testing in the start box!
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Or perhaps the start box could have a weigh bridge floor, then if your collective weight is over a tonne, you can't start
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That actually made me laugh out loud!!!

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Hen would be screwed, he wouldn't need me for his lardy arse to be over the weight limit
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or how about anyone deemed too fat when picking up their number are given special fatties times and made to run round the xc twice before they even do their dressage.
 
Do you think we're not taking this seriously enough?
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I'm allowed to be flippant because I've been sat on my "bony a**e" (I can say that, quite literally, thanks to my pelvis being fractured in an odd way...pity that the surrounding bits are flabby as hell
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) for over 5 weeks now and ranting/being flippant on here saves me kicking the dog (oh yeah, we haven't got a dog) or hitting the bottle (I've definitely got a bottle - or three
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I vote for pinch testing in the start box!
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Or perhaps the start box could have a weigh bridge floor, then if your collective weight is over a tonne, you can't start
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That actually made me laugh out loud!!!

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Hen would be screwed, he wouldn't need me for his lardy arse to be over the weight limit
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But then I'd be disadvantaged as HH is definitely big-boned, big everything in fact, so I'd have to be anorexic to make us under a tonne.
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As for Arthur ever doing it, he'd have to go round on his own as he is big-boned and a tad lardy (he's going to be a working hunter now anyway, so they won't care about his dimensions.)
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Do you think we're not taking this seriously enough?
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You don't have to worry - You were clever enough to buy Humungous Bay horses, that could carry the Jolly Green Giant round XC without breaking sweat!!
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im actually confused now though? what do you lot class as fat?!?
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Well, i weigh 10.5 stone (i'm 5'8) and in an ideal world i'd like to shift that half a stone, as i feel 10 stone would be a good weight for me..
However, i don't feel guilty that he has to carry it xc, more likely i feel it helps me weigh him down in the dressage..

As to what is fat/over weight...
A p-2-p'er has to carry up to 12stone (i think it used to go up to 12 stone 7).. They gallop pretty fast (alot faster than your average eventer up to Int. level anyway) and probably go for further..
With that in mind, i'm sure if the rider is well matched to the horse, they would be happy up to 13stone.. maybe at intro/PN level, with a big weight carrying horse they'd be happy up to 14stone.. over that, and i think some effort should be made to slim down !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Sorry if I have offended. I'm not on a personal vendetta against anyone so didn't make a point to remember names certainly wasn't one I recognised- another spectator (obviously non horsey other half!) joked to the spectators on the mound when this particular rider approached the water "this one doesn't need an airbag!" which produced a collective laugh- he certainly did look very large particularly on a very slight horse and both he and the horse looked very tired at that point although as you know it was near the end of the course.
I'm not saying I can do any better or want to or am qualified to be judge and jury on other peoples riding- I would probably be flopping all over its neck and bouncing on the cantle too but I'm not expecting my horse to jump around an advanced track! In fact after spending 5 months out of the saddle till December I'm still riding like a muppet my abdominal muscles and arms are like jelly, luckily only took a few days for the thighs to stop complaining!
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I'm sure with all your experience and previous form you will be back up there quickly. Oh and the rowing machine is still in the box
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I vote for pinch testing in the start box!
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Or perhaps the start box could have a weigh bridge floor, then if your collective weight is over a tonne, you can't start
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That actually made me laugh out loud!!!

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Hen would be screwed, he wouldn't need me for his lardy arse to be over the weight limit
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But then I'd be disadvantaged as HH is definitely big-boned, big everything in fact, so I'd have to be anorexic to make us under a tonne.
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As for Arthur ever doing it, he'd have to go round on his own as he is big-boned and a tad lardy (he's going to be a working hunter now anyway, so they won't care about his dimensions.)
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You need to get them to do some Pilates in that case - It's Ok to be overweight as long as your core stability is good - So as long as they can stand one-legged on a gym ball whilst patting their heads and rubbing their tummies, they can start
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ohh thats fair enough then im 10st
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and have my 2 girls jump em both xc and sj they are 15hh and 15.1hh both arab x hanovarians so would tht not count at sqiushing them would it
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I totally agree that riders should be fit and not obese esp competing at high level eventing/dressage/sjing.

I am obese, one horse is capable of carrying my weight the other would probably quite like me to be less heavy (which I am dealing with).

I wear white breeches... God help me, Im sorry I offend ppl.

I will also say that I am *Cartman* I am BIG boned, or at least have a very broad frame. 10stone7lb on me makes me look super slim. My thighs and shoulders carry a lot of bulk/muscle which makes me weigh more.

I look at pictures of myself last year at my heaviest and I cringe
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and feel mega sorry for my horses.
I have currently lost over a stone in weight and I shall keep going until I hit 11 stone.

However at my current weight, I can happily jog 3 miles, ride two horses for an hour each (school not sloppy hack) and/or swim 100 lengths of a 25mre pool. So I might look huge and horrid on my horse in some ppls eyes but my horses wouldnt do what they do if they were that uncomfortable.

Equally I agree, horses shouldnt have to carry excess weight. And skinny spindly TBs definitely shouldnt carry anyone over 11 stone IMO! I also refuse to ride horses for ppl when asked due to me being over weight.
 
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Phew i'll be alright then....one legged, ball standing, head patting, tummy rubbing is my specialty
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What about Blue??
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LMAO!!! He has enouugh trouble organising his legs on a day to day basis!!! Nope i'll have to do it well enough for the both of us
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Don't worry I_l_d, you didn't offend me, I was just chuckling at the way this thread has got everyone's attention and provoked such responses. It's an interesting subject and I've not noticed it being such an issue at higher levels so it's good that you pointed it out....even moreso as I remember a post which became a "them" and "us" when someone dared comment on the unfit horses and riders at intro and PN level (what goes around comes around maybe
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I'd hope that the individual would realise they aren't fit enough or riding well because they're overweight. However it seems to me that many riders are almost entirely focussed on results, so would be happy to leave all the showjumps up/get round the cross country clear with little regard for style, fluency, horse welfare etc or, the thing that I think is most important, how that round and what you learnt from it enables you to progress.

Enough rambling, time for a lemon tea and a ryvita methinks.
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Jellybaby, i don't want you to be in my "fat nazi" club, i think "Board Obesity Nazi" is a bit less offensive, i hope i'm neither fat nor a nazi!
loving the idea of a pinch test and scales for horse and rider in the start box!
maybe we need one of those fat %age measurers then, they don't lie!
Baydale, pls don't get angry at this post, you have the kind of figure i had to diet hard for 4 months last year to get anything vaguely similar to! And even if you've been sitting on your bony fractured butt and eating nothing but choccies and doritos for the last 5 weeks, you'd still struggle to be 1/4 the size of the girl i saw going xc last year, sitting bolt upright in the saddle and thumping up and down on her poor horse's back!
 
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However at my current weight, I can happily jog 3 miles, ride two horses for an hour each (school not sloppy hack) and/or swim 100 lengths of a 25mre pool. So I might look huge and horrid on my horse in some ppls eyes but my horses wouldnt do what they do if they were that uncomfortable.

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I'd have a coronary if I tried jogging 3 miles
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and my BMI is 19!
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However at my current weight, I can happily jog 3 miles, ride two horses for an hour each (school not sloppy hack) and/or swim 100 lengths of a 25mre pool. So I might look huge and horrid on my horse in some ppls eyes but my horses wouldnt do what they do if they were that uncomfortable.

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I'd have a coronary if I tried jogging 3 miles
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and my BMI is 19!
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Which is basically my point.
Just cos Im way over weight, I can keep going
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BTW I have 8 easter eggs to eat... shall I post them to you??
 
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Which is basically my point.
Just cos Im way over weight, I can keep going
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BTW I have 8 easter eggs to eat... shall I post them to you??

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Oh, yes please! I still have one giant one, plus all the various choclate bars that come with them, left to eat. So I will survive until they arrive
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I am not physically designed to run, I trip myself over
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Rowing/cycling/swimming I can just about manage without popping any major arteries
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Fortunately for me, I have a heavy worm burden
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Either that, or hollow legs
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Henmeister, please send one of your worms over to me, I could do with a pet tapeworm, then I could be as piggy as I wanted and be skinny!

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Having watched a programe on tapeworm in ppl
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I dont think I could do it.

But at the time, I thought it was the bestest idea ever haha, then reality struck...eww something riggling inside you
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Which is basically my point.
Just cos Im way over weight, I can keep going
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BTW I have 8 easter eggs to eat... shall I post them to you??

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Oh, yes please! I still have one giant one, plus all the various choclate bars that come with them, left to eat. So I will survive until they arrive
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I am not physically designed to run, I trip myself over
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Rowing/cycling/swimming I can just about manage without popping any major arteries
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Fortunately for me, I have a heavy worm burden
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Either that, or hollow legs
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More like hollow eggs
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Henmeister, please send one of your worms over to me, I could do with a pet tapeworm, then I could be as piggy as I wanted and be skinny!

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Having watched a programe on tapeworm in ppl
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I dont think I could do it.

But at the time, I thought it was the bestest idea ever haha, then reality struck...eww something riggling inside you
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As long as you keep them sated with Easter Eggs they are quiet little lambs
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Kerilli - I really don't think you've thought out just how I would get one of my Tapeworms to you...
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It would certainly need a good wash before posting!!
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LMAO! I am liking the fact people are actually speaking sense now
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LMAO at the Jaffa watch
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I dont think weight is the way to measure it at all... when I worked on a yard and rode upto 3hrses a day, was constantly on the go and was a size 8 ontop and a damn site smaller on the bottom (
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) I was actually just as heavy as I am now at 2 sizes bigger. This is cos muscle weighs more than fat?! Another case for the "one legged on a gym ball patting your head and rubbing your tummy" exerciuse makes more sense than the scales test
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Thanks K, I'm not angry but I know full well how difficult it is to lose weight so I was a bit offended, not by you particularly but just by the general tone, on some other people's behalf that anyone on here could/should judge them. For all we know they could already be on a diet and exercise programme and be mortally wounded if they knew that someone was poking fun at them, thereby putting the mental brakes on their progress.

Self-awareness and education seem to have been key words when we've been talking about safety, so maybe they apply here too? We're all different shapes and sizes and I know the weight and level of fitness I want to be able to function well and feel good about myself. I've lost weight while I've been off but am Mrs Flabby of Flabbyland - even my physio was shocked when she put me on the scales to find I was nearer 9st than 8st.
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Expect to see me on an balance ball/exercise bike/rowing machine in the very near future.
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B, yes, I can totally see what you mean, but no-one has been specific about any riders who were at Burnham. The only 2 names mentioned (one by me, i'll put my hand up as guilty) are top 4* riders, abroad. Prob too busy to read this (hopefully!) The one I mentioned does look off balance to me when riding, wobbled badly on landing over a sj at Express Eventing, i saw it clearly on t.v.! He's obv a good rider, but I think he'd be a lot better if he lost a stone or two. I don't buy into the "big boned" thing at all, I know some people have larger frames than others but we're talking about fat here, not frame size.
You're excused, you've been immobilised more-or-less, i bet your biceps are looking good after all the crutches work! The Flabbyness will go v quickly as soon as you are up and about again, v soon I hope.
 
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