Oy, you with the arthritic mare ......

zigzag said:
The OP is great at giving advice and getting on her high horse on what people should and shouldn't do, but doesn't take advice on the care of her horses ... even when several people state what they would do, but she knows best...
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Zigzag you are not a fan of OP then?
 
cptrayes said:
I do not try to stop people posting their opinions. I am not obliged to agree with them. All welfare decisions that people on this thread have disagreed with were supported by my vet.
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But do you know for certain that there is no vet involved in the horse's care currently?
 
cptrayes said:
Maybe you could read the thread before you comment, as this has already been covered. Or even the one post? Which in no way says she has been a welfare case for fifteen years.
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You say she's gone down hill each winter, 3 years or 15 years, whatever.
I would, in your shoes simply report my concerns to a welfare organisation. I have done so in the past.
I would never criticise anyone for being concerned about a animals welfare.
I just don't get why, if you have watched this mare for so long you choose,instead of doing the obvious thing you wait until a weekend when some welfare charity phone lines are closed to bring it up on here.
Fair enough the mare may have suddenly got worse, in which case ring the rspca or contact the owner
Maybe this is a very much loved animal whose owner needs help to see that it's time to let go.
Whatever, it's not helping the horse to post on here rather than do something.
 
Mongoose11 said:
Why would you do that? I'm not sure CPT will appreciate it....
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I aint looking for appreciation. As my avatar name implies, most of this chat is BS. Folks that have never met in RL getting the hump with each other, holding grudges, scoring points - i'd probably like most of you in RL though there are a few posters that I wouldn't piss on - kidding!!!!
 
If she is non weight bearing all of a sudden then perhaps it isn't arthritis, perhaps she has a totally separate issue , in which case a mention to the owner might be a good idea rather than a cryptic message on here which they prob won't even see. Horse with arthritis don't ,suddenly , become bon weight bearing. If she is suddenly so bad you feel the need to comment then I think its safe to assume this is something else. If its not sudden then why haven't you done something sooner?

I have been on the recieving end of a cryptic post and to be honest its not pleasant, fortunately I am a bigger person and let it wash over me but other may be genuinely upset by this kind of post.
 
cronkmooar said:
So, the horse has not been on three legs other than today.

Now I'm no vet, and obviously not as experienced or knowledgeable as you, but sudden non weight bearing on one leg ... have you even considered it might be an abscess?
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No, I didn't, and I don't think it matters. The horse has lumps on her knees the size of at least half a tennis ball. They have been getting that way gradually for two or three years. She hadn't been able to lock out her knees fully for two years. The leg with the knee with the bigger lumps has been being pushed out in front of her for quite a few months but yesterday it was extreme. Until now, I assumed the mare was buted and that it was none of my business of she was mechanically unsound. Yesterday, she looked an unhappy horses in pain and I will report it tomorrow.

meanwhile I beg anyone with an old retired horse to get someone who won't give a damn about upsetting you to review your house on a regular basis and tell you the truth. It is to say to miss something that happens by degrees, I did it myself when a livery yard starved my horse when I was a novice owner.
 
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OP there is not any need to keep saying you are going to report the owner, we have got that already. As other members have said though you could have put this thread much kinder.
 
cptrayes said:
No, I didn't, and I don't think it matters. The horse has lumps on her knees the size of at least half a tennis ball. They have been getting that way gradually for two or three years. She hadn't been able to lock out her knees fully for two years. The leg with the knee with the bigger lumps has been breakfast been being pushed out in front of her for quite a few months but yesterday it was extreme. Until now, I assumed the mare was bred and that it was none of my business of she was mechanically unsound. Yesterday, she looked an unhappy horses in pain and I will report it tomorrow.

meanwhile I beg anyone with an old retired horse to get someone who won't give a damn about upsetting you to review your house on a regular basis and tell you the truth. It is to say to miss something that happens by degrees, I did it myself when a livery yard starrved my horse when I was a novice owner.
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You don't think it matters!

So basically, whilst the horse has lumpy joints you have noticed it unhappy yesterday and on three legs today over a two hour period.

This horse could very well have an abscess and you have chosen to come on this forum and demand that a someone PTS their animal, that could very well be under veterinary care for its joints.

You are a despicable individual and I hope karma comes and bites you on the arse.
 
ester said:
But do you know for certain that there is no vet involved in the horse's care currently?
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Obviously Op does not know but if OP was to chose to ring one of the welfare charities and they attended no harm would be done , it happens all the time welfare officers call to horses under treatment all that's wasted is a little time .
I have called on horses locked in sheds ( box rest ) horses in blindfolds ( fly masks )ponies being starved ( in fatty paddocks ) tiny horse in with a big horse ( a foal , I joke not ) .
 
AmandaMT said:
OP there is not any need to keep saying you are going to report the owner, we have got that already. As other members have said though you could have put this thread much kinder.
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So you and others can keep repeating that, but I am not allowed to repeat that I will call whw tomorrow?
 
cptrayes said:
The leg with the knee with the bigger lumps has been breakfast been being pushed out in front of her for quite a few months but yesterday it was extreme..
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As I said, I'm no expert.

Perhaps you could educate me and explain what it means when a horses leg has been breakfast?

Its not a term I am familiar with

Or is this just one of those unfortunate times when technology lets you down and substitutes a word?
 
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