Pancreatitis! 😟 Is anyone with experience able to tell me if there's any hope?

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Blomma, 15½, suddenly got very sick at home today, started throwing up, acted as if she maybe had a brief seizure, or something else making her unable to stand. I'm typing this from the big emergency vet hospital in my city, she's had blood tests, ultrasound, x-rays, and her kidneys + liver values are normal, no tumours, nor blood somewhere it shouldn't be inside of her. But her pancreas looked irritated/unhappy on the ultrasound, and she had/have lots of enzymes in her blood (because the pancreas haven't been able to help with digesting her food the way it should, so instead food enzymes have gotten out in her blood).
They think it's the pancreatitis which caused both the vomiting, and pain making her feel unsteady/not dare to try standing.

The vet said that with all her other values being so good, seeming to be in good shape for her age, and nothing else bad going in her body that they could find, they wanted to keep her over night, giving her fluids with medication + strong painkillers, and later some special food, to see if her body could fix the pancreatitis. I chose to give her the chance. Before today's attack she was still in such good shape that I hadn't even once thought about her quality of life vs if it might be time for euthanasia. Except for that I've occasionally reminded myself about that with her age, the end could unexpectedly come any day (and I definitely thought that day had came earlier today).

Since I didn't want to risk that she might decide to get stressed if I left her alone at the vets at her old age, and since I'm in the fortunate situation that my mum, and dad can take care of my cats at home, I've opted for staying with Blomma over night at the vet hospital. Though I felt very pessimistic, I still packed some stuff so that I could stay, just in case it still was something fixable, and they wanted to keep her to give her some treatment. I was prepared to sit in the waiting room if I had to, but they've given us our own room, a dog mattress, and some extra blankets.

The vet made it sound as if there actually was a chance that, if the medication did help, we might be allowed to go home tomorrow. The thing is, that sitting here alone in a room with Blomma, I started to think about that if I had been at my usual vet clinic, I would've trusted them to tell me if it was unlikely for Blomma to survive a Pancreatitis at her age, and if they would've chosen euthanasia if she'd been their own dog. But instead I'm at the big emergency vet hospital, and I'm not sure if they're treating her because they can, and she's insured, or because there's actually a good chance she might get better.
So, is there any vet staff, or maybe someone who has had/have a dog with Pancreatitis, who think they could tell me if they think there actually is any hope for Blomma to survive this? Or should I presume that this is most likely the end?

She does seem a little bit better now than compared to when we came in with her some hours ago. She can now both stand, and qq1ämanaged to walk outside with the support of her car harness (to see if she needed to pee etc), but she's not interested in eating anything of the real fish meat, 2 wet foods, or 1 dry food they have to offer. 😟

Vibes, hugs, prayers, witch chanting etc, I'll accept anything.
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No personal experience, but I have had a couple of friends whose dogs have had pancreatis and carried on to have a good life with adjustments to their diet. One was older (13 I think) - I hope there is a positive outcome for your girl. x
 

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My parents got a rescue that went down with it shortly after arrival. He was 9. He spent 5 days in the vets and was touch and go, but was as right as rain after, so yes, there’s hope.

My own dog was pts this year, partly because of it. She was 17 and in good health, but she had started to suffer with arthritis. She was the fussiest dog ever so changing her diet would have been awful for all of us. What made me decide to have her pts was her heart rate kept dropping and she lost consciousness a few times while she was at the vets. The vets wanted to scan her heart before treating, which would have meant a wait of another 6 hours. Meanwhile they wouldn’t give her fluids which I understand they should have. When I thought of what she had to look forward to (arthritis and managing her diet), and her being at the vets for days, if not a week, I just wanted it to stop. I made the decision to pts, but not until i’d spent £2.5k :(

Sorry you are going through this, but, without knowing your dog, I think it’s worth treating and seeing how she goes.
 

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Healing vibes for Blomma 🙏🍀🤞

I havent experienced this personally in an animal, but wanted to send my very best healing wishes for your sweet Blomma.
When its an unknown its best to be hopeful, and optimistic, as they pick-up our feelings of concern, and dogs being dogs love life most when their humans are happy. I know its soo hard when theyre ill to be very concerned and not show it, but youre in the best place with all the medical support she needs, and she has her favourite person with her 🥰
 

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My Hector had this. I thought he was going to die. He was in the vets every day, 8am to 6pm, for a week, on a drip. He was very poorly and for days barely lifted his head.

He is still very much alive 8 years on! He must be around 14-16 now.

Oh thank you so much to you, and everyone else who have replied, I was worried everyone would be too busy with Christmas preparations to notice this thread. No wonder her appetite haven't immediately returned, if your dog needed treatments for a whole week to get well @Red-1 .

Sounds like you made the right decision for your old girl @meleeka . Belated I'm so sorry for your loss.

Seems like there is at least a glimmer of hope for Blomma. It wasn't easy to stay positive when I was sitting here alone with her, without seeing that much change to the better. Admittedly, when she didn't even try to eat anything, I began to worry that it was a sign of that she was very close to death. I will try harder to remind myself to be patient.

Anyhow, this was not how I planned to spend today, among other things I was going to take in our Christmas tree, and decorate it (don't think I've ever been this late with it before). But, I get to sleep over at a vet hospital, that will be an experience I don't think that many pet owners can say they've had.
 

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I work in a vet hospital as an animal care assistant and have seen plenty of dogs with pancreatitis. I've only known a dog die whilst suffering from it because of an underlying condition not pancreatitis itself. It is horrible to see them so poorly and each dog is an individual as to how fast they respond to treatment. It's one of the most rewarding parts of the job when you get a patient to start eating as they're starting to feel better. It's important that they have a low fat diet going forward to help keep the pancreas happy but I see no reason why Blomma shouldn't make a recovery. Sending you a big hug it's a huge worry when they are so poorly x
 

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It’s heart-dropping when they completely refuse any food isnt it? Yet, its very common for appetite to just stop when the body is dealing with illness.
When my dog had pyometra womb infection she went off food for 3 days and was still running around happy as could be -just drinking a bit more. Day 1 i rang vets concerned her refusal of food but due to no other symptoms and her energy they were unsure it was an emergency and said keep an eye out. It was so strange, and despite her energy, she wasnt fussed about not eating - just following her instincts. She was operated on and everything healed fine. They can go a few days without solids - she has fluids going in and meds to support.
It’s a test of patience waiting for change, i sympathise. Do you have an ipad and can watch a movie together or maybe she loves you singing along to songs to her? 😁

I hope youve got plenty of snacks and drink to keep you going tonight in your vet suite 🙂 Its amazing theyve let you stay with her, thats so nice of them.
 

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My old girl got it when she was about 12 and lived for another couple of years.

It’s horrible to see them in so much pain. I really hope she pulls through. That’s great that the hospital is letting you stay. I wish vets here would let you.
 

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Thank you so much to everyone who have shared stories making me think there's a chance, or just wished us well 💖. She's been doing so well for a dog her age before this, so I really hope it won't be too much for her, but if I think the extra strong painkillers can't help her enough, I will give up, and be happy with having gotten 15 ½ years with her.

I am very grateful they did let me stay with her. It sounded as if it definitely wasn't the first time an owner had asked to stay, so who knows, maybe there's someone else who have gone through with staying overnight before me.

@PurpleSantaBee I was eating when Blomma got sick at home. I had finished about ¾ of my plate, so I threw what was left in a plastic container, and put it in my bag with a pack of butt wipes. If anyone in the staff went past our room at the right moment this evening, they saw me eating a meal out of said container using only my fingers 😁. I couldn't think further than that throwing also the fork into the container, would've covered it with food, and I would've gotten food allover my fingers from holding it, so I could just as well clean my fingers with a butt wipe, eat the food with my fingers, clean them again on a butt wipe when I was finished, and leave the fork at home.

They also have a food wending machine in the reception, where I bought myself something else little to eat, and I'm saving the, probably unhealthy, milk chocolate covered snack to eat as breakfast tomorrow 🙂.
 

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That’s resourceful thinking to pack your food and take it with you + butt wipes! 🙂 Chocolate for breakfast will hopefully give a boost of energy after your camping night.
I hope Blomma has remained stable and you manage to get some chunks of sleep.
Everything crossed for you both to be doing a lot better in the morning, she’s a very lucky dog to have such a dedicated owner xx
 

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I've gotten a little sleep. Blomma can walk again! Tried taking her out around 20.00 yesterday, and she needed both her car harness, and a belly band at the start, but only the car harness as support when going back in. Though she hadn't peed since at home, maybe about 13.00-13.30, she didn't do anything. Took her out again about 2.30, and this time she only needed her car harness as support, and she peed the largest puddle I've seen a dog do.
She woke me up by panting this morning, and I took her out again, maybe about 6.15, and I saw the aftermath of the 2.30 puddle in the thin layer of snow. If I'm allowed to guess, I'd say it's about 65 cm in diametre, if not more. She didn't pee again though, so the panting was probably because she'd gotten too hot lying on the warm blankets, she's better now lying on only a dog mattress. Still a little unsteady getting up, and at the very start, but she's walking significantly better for each time she's up 🙂.

Maybe even better, she's just eaten a small portion of cod! I've tried offering her the food some times, and she licked a piece of wet food when I offered it to her once in the middle of the night. After the 6.15 little trip outside, she licked a piece of cod when I held it up to her twice, but didn't eat. However, when a new nurse was just in to change her IV fluids bag, Blomma, after a lot of hesitation, actually ate the cod! 😁
By the way, the nurse asked how old she was, and when I said 15½, she responded with something along the lines of "No way!" Even when really sick, she still looks in good shape for her age when you see her in real life.

She seems more relaxed, but she's also more alert, sometimes raising her head to listen when she hears unfamiliar noises. Animals can really be amazing, yesterday when we took her in she couldn't even stand, let alone walk. I suspect that if it instead had been me who had been at a human hospital with Pancreatitis, I wouldn't already be able to walk as well as she does to get to the toilet. In fact, I might've just begged a nurse to put in a catheter. Either way, she's still really sick, but for a sick, and old, dog, she seems to be doing quite well this morning.

ETA: Sadly I think they're kicking me out now, but if they're not too busy, I might be allowed to come back tonight.
 
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Morning FL, just checking in on this thread and delighted to read your cautiously positive update. I shall keep my fingers and toes crossed all day that it continues. I'm sure your dedication in staying with her and supporting her has helped her a lot. Healing vibes still heading Blommas way x
 

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I’ve no experience of this but just wanted to say I hope Blomma continues her recovery and is back to her usual lively self soon. Our deerhound lurcher will be 15 in April and his hearing, sight and back legs aren’t what they were but he still enjoys life. Last month he suddenly developed HGE and was very poorly. My son put him on IV antibiotics, antiemetic and paracetamol and the following day, against all the odds, he was normal again.
 

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Just sending good wishes FL. There is plenty of chance that pancreatitis can be managed. Obviously your girl is elderly and you are so lucky she has been with you so long but hopefully you can get her settled and manage her diet for a while longer xx ❤️🐾
 
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