Panicking about feed!

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Today I brought my horse some new feed, the spillers instant energy mix and I got some glucosamine to add to her feed. The rest is hi fi lite and soya oil. The only problem is that last november she got laminitis and so now I'm in a state of panic about her getting it again. Could this feed bring it back? She's not carrying any extra weight and she's older. She was on veteran mix before and no glucosamine. Should I change back straight away? I'm having a late night panic over it.
 
Ring Spillers and/or speak to your vet - they may be able to advise you. I found Allen and Page very helpful when trying to find a low energy feed regime for my boy and we have been using what they recommended for about three years now with no problems and improved behaviour :o I know my reason was different but they may be able to help..... :o good luck1
 
thereaper said:
Today I brought my horse some new feed, the spillers instant energy mix and I got some glucosamine to add to her feed. The rest is hi fi lite and soya oil. The only problem is that last november she got laminitis and so now I'm in a state of panic about her getting it again. Could this feed bring it back? She's not carrying any extra weight and she's older. She was on veteran mix before and no glucosamine. Should I change back straight away? I'm having a late night panic over it.
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I am not so worried about the instant energy mix as long as you plan to use it only when you are going to be doing some demanding exercise with your mare. However, I would not feed animal based protiens to any horse and most glucosamine is derived from animals. You can get vegetarian glucosamine though but most is derived from animals. Not good for herbivours. A horse on our yard was on it and his poo went really smelly. :eek:
 
The glucosamine is a horse product I brought from our feed store. It's made by the same people who make the corflex. Shes just being brought back into work and is ridden 5/6 times a week usually. Not overly hard but she does work up a sweat. I'm now thinking Ive brought the wrong feed... I just dont want to bring the lammy back. She isnt competed, she's just ploddy some days so I wanted to give her something which might make her feel abit better . Damn I'm a fool
 
Glucosamine is derived from Green Muscles I think (?)..... I found that adding a little soya oil in my horse's feed helped with his joints :o And made his coat all shiny.... I dont give Cod liver oil for the exact same reason - it comes from FISH and horses dont eat fish! :o
 
Wagtail said:
I am not so worried about the instant energy mix as long as you plan to use it only when you are going to be doing some demanding exercise with your mare. However, I would not feed animal based protiens to any horse and most glucosamine is derived from animals. You can get vegetarian glucosamine though but most is derived from animals. Not good for herbivours. A horse on our yard was on it and his poo went really smelly. :eek:
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I'd be very wary of the glucosamine as it is extremely sweet.

Interestingly, my Idx mare has been very spooky for the last 18 months. She developed windgalls after a sponsored ride, so we started giving her glucosamine. We have just (yes, I know) worked out that this could be the cause of our spookiness problems - she seems very anxious when away from the yard. So no more glucosamine for her......
 
thereaper said:
The glucosamine is a horse product I brought from our feed store. It's made by the same people who make the corflex. Shes just being brought back into work and is ridden 5/6 times a week usually. Not overly hard but she does work up a sweat. I'm now thinking Ive brought the wrong feed... I just dont want to bring the lammy back. She isnt competed, she's just ploddy some days so I wanted to give her something which might make her feel abit better . Damn I'm a fool
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Then it will not be vegetarian glucosamine. I would take it and the feed back for a refund. You can get vegetarian glucosamine online if you google 'vegetarian glucosamine horses'. I am shocked by how many suppliers sell non vegetarian products to unsuspecting horse owners.
 
I used to use Supaflex (High Glucosamine) but stopped when I changed my horse's feed regime. I switched to D&H Mobility for a while but to no avail so I asked around and one of my friends suggested soya oil.... He seems to be doing well on that so have stuck with it....
 
Wagtail said:
Then it will not be vegetarian glucosamine. I would take it and the feed back for a refund. You can get vegetarian glucosamine online if you google 'vegetarian glucosamine horses'. I am shocked by how many suppliers sell non vegetarian products to unsuspecting horse owners.
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I thought it was only me :o That thought like this. TBH thought I only know about glucosamine because I am a food scientist and my dad planted the seed about Cod liver oil... He asked me one day why I gave it to my horse when he is a veggie and I asked him what he meant and he said 'Where do you think Cod liver oil comes from and since when did horses eat Cod???'

LOL :o
 
She was on glucosmine last year for abit and it seemed alright. I never remember why I stopped, I'm more panicking over lammy coming back with the spillers feed. I think I'll ring my vet tomorrow. Probably go back to old horse mix..
 
AndiK - Yes, I wish more people were bothered about not feeding meat to their horses. Lol. On a serious note, look what happened when we did it to cows.
 
I know we have hijacked this thread but it is really important to check the ingredients of the feed and supplements - I do with the dogs food too. If you feed wet meat to dogs its worth checking the ACTUAL meat content of the food - you will be surprised I promise!
 
best feed for horses( given work load) is fibre - the best hay you can buy - a fibre based feed - then talk to vet( not feed comapnies as they want to sell) . talk to vet to establish what your needs then look for a good supplement if needed. but the best thing you can buy is damn fine hay :) may seem exspensive but it will cut feed bills :) i feed simple - good hay, happy hoof for big lad and a sprinkle for little fat lass - little lass who gets grass at day and hay( and sprinkle of happy hoof ) at night shines sparkles and is pure health
 
babymare said:
best feed for horses( given work load) is fibre - the best hay you can buy - a fibre based feed - then talk to vet( not feed comapnies as they want to sell) . talk to vet to establish what your needs then look for a good supplement if needed. but the best thing you can buy is damn fine hay :) may seem exspensive but it will cut feed bills :) i feed simple - good hay, happy hoof for big lad and a sprinkle for little fat lass - little lass who gets grass at day and hay( and sprinkle of happy hoof ) at night shines sparkles and is pure health
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I agree about hay! Its something I do take my time to source. I used to feed pink powder which is meant to be a good all round supplement, but, TBH I dont feed any supplements now, only soya oil. I do use elecrolites after strenuous exercise but nothing else - IMO there is so much out there and some of it is really good and can be useful but al lot of it we dont need to feed to our horses....

The other thing I do is feed raw veggies (people forget about these!) - carrot, parsnip, suede, turnip, raw sugar beet root, apples - I try to do something different every week :o
 
babymare said:
best feed for horses( given work load) is fibre - the best hay you can buy - a fibre based feed - then talk to vet( not feed comapnies as they want to sell) . talk to vet to establish what your needs then look for a good supplement if needed. but the best thing you can buy is damn fine hay :) may seem exspensive but it will cut feed bills :) i feed simple - good hay, happy hoof for big lad and a sprinkle for little fat lass - little lass who gets grass at day and hay( and sprinkle of happy hoof ) at night shines sparkles and is pure health
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I agree about hay! Its something I do take my time to source. I used to feed pink powder which is meant to be a good all round supplement, but, TBH I dont feed any supplements now, only soya oil. I do use elecrolites after strenuous exercise but nothing else - IMO there is so much out there and some of it is really good and can be useful but al lot of it we dont need to feed to our horses....

The other thing I do is feed raw veggies (people forget about these!) - carrot, parsnip, suede, turnip, raw sugar beet root, apples - I try to do something different every week :o
 
The hay we have on our livery yard is excellent, people in our area buy it from our YO. She gets all the veggies, ESP Swedes since they keep her occupied for a while. Never tried the beetroot! Ill ring my vet tomorrow to see what he says about the new feed, my friend however pointed out before that I should stop panicking since she's only had lammy once in 22years and has been fine grazing all year. Im such a over worrier.
 
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