Panorama-It shouldnt happen at a Vets...

I'll be watching, somewhat sceptically though - both as a final year vet student and as a pet owner. All of the practices I have been in have been excellent, and I don't think I know anyone who has been to a truly bad practice.

As others have said, I hope people realise that this is about what is basically the equivalent of a supermarket vets: kind of akin to your local greengrocers vs tesco's. My friend is in a small animal practice at the moment, and her and the vets are already anticipating loads of owners quizzing them on this programme!
 
Am watching it now - poor dog. Bad practice and I would suggest that anyone who has their pets with this company changes their practice.
 
Sounds like there are loopholes/unclear wording in veterinary law that are being exploited, as a 'cost cutting' procedure.
 
i cant believe my eyes! that dog has just had a leg amputated!! medi vet are full of s**t with there comments!
 
Disgusting. I'm glad my vets seem lovely and caring. I went into one vets to find out a bit about it but the two vet nurses were rude and clearly annoyed i'd disrupted their conversation. Needless to say i never went there. Obviously you never know but from what i've seen of my vets i'd trust them to look after my pet.
 
it's the laughing and messing around that's upsetting me as well as the rough handling. I just don't think it's necessary. Can't see much compassion for stressed, upset animals.
 
I am not overly upset by this to be honest - certainly I don't think they have handled sime of the animals very well at all and I do not condone manhandling any animal. Stillm it is very one-sided a film and how many of us have sworn as a result of animal behaviour and, yes the girls certainly were not professional but they did not appear to be intentionally agressive with the dog. I don't imagine it's easy to carry out proceduers on animalsthat are stressed by the whole experience.

Again, iam not condoning any of it but like with all if these programmes they are only showing sure a small minority of vets (one company) so we can't judge them all same. i am appalled by how much they seem to be ripping off their clients though, that is disgraceful and it's no wonder insurance companies are suspicious these days and query owners and vets more about whether treatment is/was necessary.

Hmm, i am never wholly convinced by these programmes. It won't be doing medivet any good though and I hope they make some efforts to make changes. I am glad I have the vets I do have and that medivet aren't 'up here' (well not yet anyway!!!)
 
confused by the charging for a bp monitor....
surely like charging for the anaesthetic machine when it is all part of the op :confused:
 
I think alot of vets are going to be very weary of customers checking bills and asking for proof of qualifications.
 
ester said:
ok the cancer dog really is ridiculous state of affairs.
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Agree, I'm not even qualified yet and I spotted the lung mets as soon as the xray appeared so for a vet to claim not to see them is ridiculous. The fact he then didn't tell the owner and tried to push for MRI is disgraceful - good on the RCVS for striking him off.
 
Started to watch it and then couldn't bear it. My dogs go to a small local practise and one of my friends works in another one of the practises. I am at my vets tomorrow for the injections into my dogs elbows.. glad I didn't see this before I had to leave mine at the vets a couple of weeks ago though.. I was worried enough and I do trust my vets!
 
Ignition said:
One big non story, IMO. Yes, a few things were wrong but many things are being blown out of proportion. Quite an uninteresting programme.
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i dont see how its been blown out of proportion?? there is absolutley no excuse for handling and treating any animal like that.
 
Digusted by that program - but also don't like how it highlights the few bad people of the veterinary world and not people who don't want to go into it just to make money (like me and a good few others!) who won't be out there purely to rip owners off.
Good decision by the RCVS.
 
Murphy88 said:
Agree, I'm not even qualified yet and I spotted the lung mets as soon as the xray appeared so for a vet to claim not to see them is ridiculous. The fact he then didn't tell the owner and tried to push for MRI is disgraceful - good on the RCVS for striking him off.
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I've only ever been on work experience and now have sound biologicaly knowledge and could have made a pretty good guess.

I have to say I thought some of the handling would be worse/more distressing to watch as its not nice watching distressed animals that have to be handled/restrained. not sure on how an anaesthesia tube should be slipping out though!
 
Disgusting, some of the things that have been shown are completely immorral and horrid. I mean why would you restrain a dog with breathing problems round it's neck and then push it against a wall. And why would you mess around with an animal which is partially awake still, it's still a live animal after all, concious or not. And why would you lie to owners blaming them for something you did, and also why would you put the animal through unnecessary tests, causing distress to the animal and unnecessary costs for the owners.
Not upset by this really, just disappointed and angry this is allowed to happen.
 
Well, the unprofessional attitude of the staff would put be off medivet.

I did some work experience as a teenager in a vets, and whilst some animals had to be handled firmly, I didn't see anything like that. I also saw staff able to laugh and enjoy their jobs, not at the expense of the animal.

The companies response were also very unsatisfactory, particularly in the case of the nurse who was unnecessarily violent, and then was promoted.

So yes, wouldn't particularly use medivet anymore.
 
Godknows said:
The president of the RCVS is skirting questions like a politician.
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Agree with Jack9. Sandy basically said at one point that he agreed with Jeremy Vine, but he will have been very strictly bound by RCVS on what he could say, which I think came through in the interview. (We liverpool vet students get very protective of Sandy Trees, he is a legend!)
 
Ignition said:
One big non story, IMO. Yes, a few things were wrong but many things are being blown out of proportion. Quite an uninteresting programme.
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Would you like your animal to be given a GA by a unqualified person?? I know I wouldnt!
Yes you do have to be firm with some animals who are stressed and scared that does not mean you should handle them in a cruel manner and the attitude of someof the 'nurses' was a disgrace.
 
So what did this programe show? I am a vet student but am abroad so I can't get iplayer.

Just as with anything in life there are good vets and bad vets. Even the good ones make mistakes (everyone makes a mistake in their life at some point) and the imporatnt thing is how that mistake is handled and learned from.

One vet once injected my cat with a dog vaccine. She then lied and tried to cover it up. The cat had an alergic reaction and almost died. The practice took my complaint very seriously. They fully investigated what happened and admitted a mistake had ben made. They refunded all of my money, consulted with various professors re my cats treatment and possible future side effects etc etc. Vet was almost sacked - if I had pushed for it she would have been but it was enough that she was genuinely very upset and personally appologised. I can see in the heat of the moment she just paniced which is why she lied. The practice took steps to put in place protocols to make sure this could never happen again. I will still use that practice as they learned from what happened and really did try to make things right. By the sounds of it this programme contains lots of vets that just don't care and don't want to make things right :(
 
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