Parelli Demo on robert Whittakers stallion Stonleigh Friday 9th...Anybody else bside

vandypip - there have been a flood of complaints to all the welfare charities, who are then obliged to investigate them.

Peeps is a slang word for people. No disrespect meant :rolleyes:
 
I apologise for my lack of homework but I have just seen the Linda video with the blind horse for the first time. I am absolutely disgusted that they have been allowed to continue in any way in this country if that is what they call training an animal to do anything. PP and the "followers" should hang their heads in shame frankly and to have the gall to imply we don't understand the methods. We do it is abuse we don't do that to our horses.
 
vandypip said:
All old horsemen know all the old tricks, whether it be derived from english or western horsemanship methods. The methods parrelli used on catwalk are not exactly new or indeed intelligent. Perhaps parrelli could show us how skilled he is by jumping on catwalk and popping him round a course ofjumps. Now that would be interesting to see!!!!!
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Excellent idea :) but he'd have to get the bridle on first ;)
 
cantieflower said:
The saddest part of this is that novice people just coming into horses will believe that it is right to use force to gain a horses trust! Then the market will be even more flooded with horses that are called dangerous (when they are aren't) and horses that are terrified to let anyone near them. Very few horses are really 'bad' nearly all their problems are man made and reading about this so called demo, you can see why!
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Very good points
 
johnrobert said:
Foolforahorse. Have penpal in Tenessee who changes her horses so often, I've lost count of which one she's writing about. she's into English hunt style? and western, she keep her horse in a large pen? and goes to the Riding clubs in her area where most of the riders keep their horses and ponies in livery. Have been to California a couple of times to see my relations and so yes I have seen the Dude ranches and Trecking centres the hay which looks like straw to me was I'm told alfala. And yes in someways their way of living is far differant than ours. All I wish for that the parellie couple would go back to America and stay there and leave us to enjoy our horses in our quiet way. Seems lately everything American good and everything English bad and I'm getting fedup with it.
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An American visitor here thinking you are like the blind person trying to describe an elephant
Maybe you need to broaden your circle of acquaintences (but I'm not volunteering)
http://picasaweb.google.com/carolp3231/20100713#
http://picasaweb.google.com/carolp3231/20100702#
http://picasaweb.google.com/carolp3231/20100516#
http://picasaweb.google.com/carolp3231/Fillies#
http://picasaweb.google.com/carolp3231/Decsnow#5472752625330576194
http://picasaweb.google.com/carolp3231/FrontOfHouse1#
http://picasaweb.google.com/carolp3231/Sophie#

And if you think I am in any way bashing English horses, the sires of MOST of the horses shown are imported from either England or Ireland. (Touch of the Blues, Snowford Bellman, Glenlara, and Gunsmoke)
 
johnrobert said:
Foolforahorse. Have penpal in Tenessee who changes her horses so often, I've lost count of which one she's writing about. she's into English hunt style? and western, she keep her horse in a large pen? and goes to the Riding clubs in her area where most of the riders keep their horses and ponies in livery. Have been to California a couple of times to see my relations and so yes I have seen the Dude ranches and Trecking centres the hay which looks like straw to me was I'm told alfala. And yes in someways their way of living is far differant than ours. All I wish for that the parellie couple would go back to America and stay there and leave us to enjoy our horses in our quiet way. Seems lately everything American good and everything English bad and I'm getting fedup with it.
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You have been to one state of 50. The USA is an incredibly large and diverse country. It is really impossible to make generalizations as you do. There is top notch horses care and not so good horse care.
Alfalfa hay is excellent hay. Just because something is different, doesn't make it bad. Good quality alfalfa is very green and horses love it. Alfalfa is a legume, high in protein and is the hay fed to most of the race horses in this country. Alfalfa is high in calcium making it an excellent hay for horses prone to ulcers.
I have not bashed anything English - nor am I saying America is perfect - but please be careful when you paint with such a broad brush. Horse care in CA alone varies so much from desert to sea and snow capped mountains, it is a HUGE state.

Parelli is not endorsed by the very large majority of real horsemen in the US. And that is really the point I wanted to make when I posted. He seems to have a following of novice and new horse owners. People who don't know any better and those who are afraid of their horse. So they torture the horse on the ground and have an excuse for why they are not riding. Real horsemen in this country have limitless opportunities to progress with legitimate trainers/clinicians.

FYI: I have been to 48 states, and all over a large portion of Europe, Africa and the Caribbean. I have seen a huge variations in horse care everywhere.
 
vandypip said:
No bridle needed. No stress to the horse. Jockey might S**T himself at 1.60 m though.
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Just a fact you may have overlooked :) Pat Parelli was a rodeo rider for many years riding both horses and bulls, I don't think there would be a lot of fear involved in that.
Maybe he would rather that one left in the closet, but don't we all have a few skeletons in ours?
 
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got a reply from the World Horse Welfare...they don't feel they can do anything. Has anyone else had a reply like this ? sm x
 
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just wondered what responses people have had from the other welfare organisations, or is it too early to say ? I really hope the BHS/RSPCA are able to act. WHW say they weren't there, and the video is of too bad a quality, and a BHS vet is alleged to have seen the horse, so the BHS have more evidence , which I guess is fair enough :confused: sm x
 
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