parelli? how do i go about it?

I'd advise you to look at Parelli Connect, it's free for 30 days and only a few quid after that. The there is a tremendous amount of information on there which is worth studying.

Parelli is not a short cut you really have to work at it yourself for the horse to benefit.

Lots of people on here are anti parelli, but very few have much idea about it. Some do and have moved on to other things and like everything, one size doesn't fit all.

Take no notice of Team Barmy, makes a lot of noise, but there is no substance there. Just one of a rabid band, which is getting smaller all the time.

To get Parelli right isn't easy and a lot of folk end up drilling their horses, which is not what it's about.

People focus on the carrot stick, which is basically stupid, unintelligent and foolish.

When you compare the cost to what you can spend on traditional english equipment and lessons, it's very competative indeed, and as far as information goes excellent value.

As I say go on Parelli Connect, a breath of fresh air, as far as forums go.

If you end up going to the celebrations, at the NEC, you will be amazed, and delighted at what you see, and several thousand people from all over Europe and the UK creates a fantastic atmosphere.

Good luck with it, don't let the anti parelli mob put you off, you will really miss out if you do, and worse of all, your horse will.
 
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I watched video number 1 out of curiosity, so was that stick he was flailing about the infamous carrot stick? I was reading the posts and someone calls him pepperoni!ha ha love it
Poor horse though, it looks terrified!
 
Pale Rider said:
Take no notice of Team Barmy, makes a lot of noise, but there is no substance there. Just one of a rabid band, which is getting smaller all the time.
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Nice to see the name calling has started, it isn't big, it isn't clever and it doesn't further your point so why do you feel the need?

The dissenters are no more "rabid" in their dislike of the system than the followers are in their adoration. I may object to the practise, but having been on the receiving end of a lot of pro-parelli-ites I can assure you I would never go as far as they do, I would never tell someone they weren't going to heaven because they believed in Parelli for example!!! I wouldn't even think it, let alone say it, but I have been told there is no chance of me entering the pearly gates because I am not into parelli natural horsemanship.
 
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I have to agree with TeamBArney here - so far what's happened is that some anit-parelli-ists have given actual examples of areas where parelli has problems, and the pro group are retaliating by saying 'ignore them' and name calling!! How about, if you want to make your point and disprove us who don't think PArelli is so wonderful, you use actual examples and science and reasonable arguments?!?! would make your argument a whole lot more credible.

Oh wait maybe that's just my rabies talking....
 
babymare said:
so wet my self at replies to this but mmmm seriously why can you not think as horse and look at world through thier eyes . why do we need to spend money on stupid carrot sticks etc when its so simple - michael peace google him and read his books - no carrot sticks no whips just think as a horse - see what they see and try and think as they do - brilliant guy and changed how i look at my horses world- pmsl go spend your money lol me? I will carry on looking at and understanding what my lass sees thriugh her eyes - thank your mr Peace :)
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OP, listen to Babymare... ^^^that is a pure peice of sense up there^^^^

swalk said:
So far all that's happened is that we've argued about whether it's fair to talk about popcorn!!!
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Well, its done now, popcorn has been talked about, now how about we get onto more important subjects like: sweet, buttered, toffee or salted? Me personally, I love a combination of butter and salt :D

Talking about Parelli is a bit like playing minesweeper on windows :D For what its worth OP, I am not going to bash Parelli, although I could all day for many reasons, I am not a fan, but it does not mean that I disagree with the persuit of finding a natural harmony with your horse. Michael Peace, from all I have seen talks fantastic sense, you do not need gadgets, videos, CDs and a Membership to find that harmony with your horse. Save yourself the money, save the horse the stress and look at other NH techniques that are not quite so brutal.
 
I for one enjoy the parelli threads, it is like the god and the devil/ heaven and hell of the equestrian world, will leave you to work out which side is which ;)
 
Morgan123 said:
I have to agree with TeamBArney here - so far what's happened is that some anit-parelli-ists have given actual examples of areas where parelli has problems, and the pro group are retaliating by saying 'ignore them' and name calling!! How about, if you want to make your point and disprove us who don't think PArelli is so wonderful, you use actual examples and science and reasonable arguments?!?! would make your argument a whole lot more credible.

Oh wait maybe that's just my rabies talking....
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I think I may have rabies too as I too dislike Parelli, more so since the Catwalk affair which the parelli people would dearly love for us to forget about!

I tend to use a mix of what some would call NH and Traditional. you see to me good horsemanship does not need a label. My horses are happy in their work and on the ground, they know where the boundaries are so they feel secure and most of all they trust me to be their leader, my responsibility is not to betray that trust.
 
Amaranta said:
I think I may have rabies too as I too dislike Parelli, more so since the Catwalk affair which the parelli people would dearly love for us to forget about!

I tend to use a mix of what some would call NH and Traditional. you see to me good horsemanship does not need a label. My horses are happy in their work and on the ground, they know where the boundaries are so they feel secure and most of all they trust me to be their leader, my responsibility is not to betray that trust.
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I don't think anyone should forget about the Catwalk affair, far from it. I think that a salutary lesson was learnt that day, primarily by Parelli himself. I think he forgot one of his own rules that day, to take the time it takes. I guess he thought he could impress a non Parelli audience that day with a quick fix, and Catwalk just upped and upped the anti, and left him sweating and in a heap of trouble.

Horses do that, don't they, no matter how many times you have dealt with a problem, a horse can always leave an 'expert' in a mess looking stupid, particularly if you forget your own rules.

My view is Parelli is a package, that anyone with a little horse sense can do, no majic or mystery, it's all there from the masters like Troy Henry, Tom Dorrance and Ray Hunt. Its not invented, it's old and it works well when people do it properly. When you read the horse and apply yourself with understanding, not drilling the horse and becoming task oriented.

Some people say they do a mix some NH some Traditional, well, if you are that good go ahead, to my mind the average horse person cannot get their head round one school, let alone mixing two, without confusing themselves and the horse. Thats why, if someone chooses a school I believe they should stick to it. Not many, though there are some, obviously, who can mix things together.

Parelli is one way of putting a good foundation on your horse, from which to go on to any sphere you want. The standard of horsemanship today, is pretty poor all round, you only have to read some of the stuff on here. People do what they have always done, and end up with all sorts of problems.

Now I don't really care whether people like the package or not. It's not mine, but, what I do object to is all the slagging off of people, very often youngsters, who mention on this forum, that they want to find out about or learn Parelli techniques. It's wrong and bullying.

Don't forget that the Pony Club, a massive influence on British horsepeople, was started by ex army people based on the army way of keeping horses, which was not good.


I like what Amaranta has said here about leadership, trust and betrayal, and agree whole heartedly.
 
Pale Rider said:
Now I don't really care whether people like the package or not. It's not mine, but, what I do object to is all the slagging off of people, very often youngsters, who mention on this forum, that they want to find out about or learn Parelli techniques. It's wrong and bullying.

Don't forget that the Pony Club, a massive influence on British horsepeople, was started by ex army people based on the army way of keeping horses, which was not good.


I like what Amaranta has said here about leadership, trust and betrayal, and agree whole heartedly.
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Where has anyone slagged off the OP, or indeed anyone who wants to start parelli? That hasn't happened at any point at all!! However you personally HAVE slagged off the people who have tried to make other points, so have a think about practising what you preach :-)

Agree re: pony club. All schools of horsemanship have their bad points and don't apply in all settings, absolutely! Each horse and each person is different, etc etc.

MAybe this would be a more constructive discussion if the pro group explain why they think parelli IS So much better/more practical etc etc than other schools of horsemanship?
 
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Some people say they do a mix some NH some Traditional, well, if you are that good go ahead, to my mind the average horse person cannot get their head round one school, let alone mixing two, without confusing themselves and the horse. Thats why, if someone chooses a school I believe they should stick to it. Not many, though there are some, obviously, who can mix things together.
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I think that is a bit of an insult, no people do not think that they are 'that good' they just have a brain, and commonsense. I think that using one template for all is an absolutely idiotic approach. Sure, when bringing on a youngster, you want to do certain things in a certain order, but you also have to be able to 'read' the horse and the situation, whether you choose, PP, MR other NH 'Traditional', or a mixture of approaches. You suit the approach to the temperament of the horse and the situation, it is really not rocket science. What is wrong with using a comination approaches? I dont think that anyone here is talking of flicking a horse in the face with the metal of a lead rope to teach it to back up and respect your space one day, and using a completely different method to teach the same thing the next day, this would indeed be confusing if it were the case. I think they are talking about reading the horse, temperament and situation and using suitable taylored methods to teach different things to a horse. I repeat, it is not rocket science, this is just good horsemanship.
 
queenbee said:
I think that is a bit of an insult, no people do not think that they are 'that good' they just have a brain, and commonsense. I think that using one template for all is an absolutely idiotic approach. Sure, when bringing on a youngster, you want to do certain things in a certain order, but you also have to be able to 'read' the horse and the situation, whether you choose, PP, MR other NH 'Traditional', or a mixture of approaches. You suit the approach to the temperament of the horse and the situation, it is really not rocket science. What is wrong with using a comination approaches? I dont think that anyone here is talking of flicking a horse in the face with the metal of a lead rope to teach it to back up and respect your space one day, and using a completely different method to teach the same thing the next day, this would indeed be confusing if it were the case. I think they are talking about reading the horse, temperament and situation and using suitable taylored methods to teach different things to a horse. I repeat, it is not rocket science, this is just good horsemanship.
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What you have said here is spot on. You would find or maybe you have found already that, the template of Parelli, teaches you to read the horse and react accordingly. There are built into the program different approaches to different types of horse behaviour. Crudely speaking you wouldn't treat a fearful nervous type the same as a bold in your face type. Basically, I suppose what I'm trying to say is that there are a myriad of approaches to use within the Parelli program depending on how the horse presents. You are right, it's not rocket science but it is good horsemanship. Pehaps, it is a bit insulting to some folk doubting their ability to mix different schools, but you see enough people making a pigs ear of one approach to leave you a little jaundiced in your opinion.
 
Morgan123 said:
Where has anyone slagged off the OP, or indeed anyone who wants to start parelli? That hasn't happened at any point at all!! However you personally HAVE slagged off the people who have tried to make other points, so have a think about practising what you preach :-)

Agree re: pony club. All schools of horsemanship have their bad points and don't apply in all settings, absolutely! Each horse and each person is different, etc etc.

MAybe this would be a more constructive discussion if the pro group explain why they think parelli IS So much better/more practical etc etc than other schools of horsemanship?
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No one has slaged off this OP on this thread, my comments were directed at the numerous Parelli threads which have taken these routes, and I suppose in retrospect, my comments were not really helpful.

My view is that the Parelli approach is good because every horse and horse person is different, and the tools are all there within the program.
 
Pale Rider said:
I don't think anyone should forget about the Catwalk affair, far from it. I think that a salutary lesson was learnt that day, primarily by Parelli himself. I think he forgot one of his own rules that day, to take the time it takes. I guess he thought he could impress a non Parelli audience that day with a quick fix, and Catwalk just upped and upped the anti, and left him sweating and in a heap of trouble.
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Watch... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzOqBZRjYoY

“I would like to apologise to the audience members that were confused” ...yes confused that's what the entire audience were!

“In over 30 years of public problem-solving, this is without a doubt the most extreme horse I have ever had.” ...Really?????

"I am sad and apologize for allowing confusion to evolve"


Read...http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=406092659063&comments

“a couple of folks were upset at what they think they saw” ...what they think they saw, not what actually happened then.

"We all have nothing to worry about except misunderstanding."


Not the sentiments of someone who regrets his actions. There was no "I put my hands up I made a mistake" and that is because Parelli inc. doesn't believe a mistake was made it just believes the rest of the world doesn't understand "real" horsemanship.

Pat Parelli doesn't seem like he has learnt his lesson to me, his followers whose posts you can read under the youtube praised his great skill in dealing with Catwalk and stating that the treatment Catwalk received was exactly what he needed no lesson learned just more adoration gained.
 
TeamBarney - can I just add that a lot of the contentious Parelli videos are actually ones that they SELL as part of their DVD packages... I am well aware that you could video most people working with horses and edit it to make it look less than effective/pretty but you wouldn't then use this to teach people to follow your method..

That is what worries me the most - if this is what the Parellis are willing to put on a training DVD then what on earth does the rest of the training look like? Just defies belief.

PS I do have a background which includes a fair bit of Parelli training, through which I met some great horsemen and women, but I'll stick to 'common sense' horsemanship as it works for me and my horse :) and it's free :D
 
Basically, just don't believe all the hype. Parelli isn't a miracle cure. Parelli isn't a religion or a lifestyle choice. Its bascally natural horsemanship with some fancy labels and high price tags.

I'm on Parelli Connect. Personally, I like Parelli. I think it's a good start for young horses. I've only ever done the groundwork though - I've never done the riding programs and I don't plan to. But the games are fantastic for horses that are too young to jump on and make a nice change from lunging, long reining etc.

Parelli equipment is expensive but cheaper stuff can be found on ebay and is just as good, if not better.

Just don't go into Parelli thinking it's a quick fix or that it's going to transform your horse into a wonderful, respectful, willing beast. Chances are that it won't but if you can master the basics you can have a lot of fun playing with your horses.
 
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team barney said:
Watch... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzOqBZRjYoY

“I would like to apologise to the audience members that were confused” ...yes confused that's what the entire audience were!

“In over 30 years of public problem-solving, this is without a doubt the most extreme horse I have ever had.” ...Really?????

"I am sad and apologize for allowing confusion to evolve"


Read...http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=406092659063&comments

“a couple of folks were upset at what they think they saw” ...what they think they saw, not what actually happened then.

"We all have nothing to worry about except misunderstanding."


Not the sentiments of someone who regrets his actions. There was no "I put my hands up I made a mistake" and that is because Parelli inc. doesn't believe a mistake was made it just believes the rest of the world doesn't understand "real" horsemanship.

Pat Parelli doesn't seem like he has learnt his lesson to me, his followers whose posts you can read under the youtube praised his great skill in dealing with Catwalk and stating that the treatment Catwalk received was exactly what he needed no lesson learned just more adoration gained.
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I don't know how Pat Parelli really feels about this, I think that he will probably think about it in the dead of night and think about what happened and why, and how it was subsequently handled, by Parelli Inc.

I've seen a lot of skilled horsemen fall flat on their **** a few times, hell, it happens to everyone, normally in front of a crowd, lol. If you cock up then you should admit it, but some people can't, Parelli was one of these on that occasion.

Like him or loath him personally, it matters not, but he is a fantastic horseman, when you speak to people from all round the world, who really are good horsemen and women, he is very highly regarded.

But of course everyone makes enemies and thats to be expected.
 
Hmm - I've just been pondering this as I poo picked (fab way to spend a day's annual leave :-(!) and was thinking - the interesting thing about Parelli is that it IS so cotentious - I mean, you never get this sort of discussion about clicker training, do you? People either do it or they don't - you don't get endless debates about whether or not it's actually abusive. Clearly, that view has come from something, it's not just people being spiteful. If there are enough Catwalk cases that this public view has arisen, I kind of think that says something about the method...

PErsonally I think a lot of the science of parelli is flawed and a lot of what he says is completely ridiculous - e.g. I think the use of the carrot stick in the initial games is particularly ridiculous because of the backwards thinking. Take this, which comes from a parelli section of a well0known book - in the initial game (can't remember what it's called, but i think it's the friendly game) - you are using the sdtick to stroke your horse all over in imitation of its mother licking it when it was a foal. When it relaxes, you take the stick away. If it moves you carry on wiht the pressure, and the pressure halter will also ask it to halt.

Well, for starters that's a bit odd becuase a) why would it feel nice for a horse to be stroked with a stick, b) if you're doing something that feels nice you DEFINITELY should not need a pressure halter to make it stand still, c) if it feels nice, why would you stop doing it when it relaxes?!?

To top it all off, then in the next game you start making it move away from the stick, even though you've just been teaching it (in a flawed way!) to stand still!! No wonder you end up with broken down parelli horses....

Furthermore, this moving away is supposed to be in imitation of the mother teaching the foal to move out of her way - fair enough. However, in the context of a 'game' I think that's again inherently crazy. A mare does not practice drilling her foal to move out of her way on a daily basis in short sesions - she simply tells it to move and they both get on with it. No drilling required!

It just makes no sense. And those are only the first two games!!! Feedback welcome...
 
Morgan123 said:
Hmm - I've just been pondering this as I poo picked (fab way to spend a day's annual leave :-(!) and was thinking - the interesting thing about Parelli is that it IS so cotentious - I mean, you never get this sort of discussion about clicker training, do you? People either do it or they don't - you don't get endless debates about whether or not it's actually abusive. Clearly, that view has come from something, it's not just people being spiteful. If there are enough Catwalk cases that this public view has arisen, I kind of think that says something about the method...

PErsonally I think a lot of the science of parelli is flawed and a lot of what he says is completely ridiculous - e.g. I think the use of the carrot stick in the initial games is particularly ridiculous because of the backwards thinking. Take this, which comes from a parelli section of a well0known book - in the initial game (can't remember what it's called, but i think it's the friendly game) - you are using the sdtick to stroke your horse all over in imitation of its mother licking it when it was a foal. When it relaxes, you take the stick away. If it moves you carry on wiht the pressure, and the pressure halter will also ask it to halt.

Well, for starters that's a bit odd becuase a) why would it feel nice for a horse to be stroked with a stick, b) if you're doing something that feels nice you DEFINITELY should not need a pressure halter to make it stand still, c) if it feels nice, why would you stop doing it when it relaxes?!?

To top it all off, then in the next game you start making it move away from the stick, even though you've just been teaching it (in a flawed way!) to stand still!! No wonder you end up with broken down parelli horses....

Furthermore, this moving away is supposed to be in imitation of the mother teaching the foal to move out of her way - fair enough. However, in the context of a 'game' I think that's again inherently crazy. A mare does not practice drilling her foal to move out of her way on a daily basis in short sesions - she simply tells it to move and they both get on with it. No drilling required!

It just makes no sense. And those are only the first two games!!! Feedback welcome...
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The carrot stick is supposed to be used as an extension of your arm. I think it's main purpose is so that you can stay in one place, away from potential kicks, while you stroke the horse with the stick. It's quite a useful bit of kit for working with youngsters and nervous horses but you could get the desired effect with a schooling whip.

I haven't read any books. I've only seen the online vids.
 
Thanks - still doesn't explain any of the flaws inherent in the methodology and parelli's supposed reasoning though. In fact, I think it makes it all the more confusing. If you're in danger you're doing something wrong - obviously there are some exceptions, but in general horses are nice and if you go slowly and kindly you shouldn't need a stick as an extension of your arm - certainly it would't then need to be sold as a standard necessity for every parelli-ite!

E.g. if a horse is kicking out when you touch its back legs, you need to go slower and work your way towards its legs. this is safer and nicer for you both! Only in urgent veterinary cases or very extreme behavioural problems should an alternative be taken - surely THAT is common sense?!
 
Morgan123 said:
Hmm - I've just been pondering this as I poo picked (fab way to spend a day's annual leave :-(!) and was thinking - the interesting thing about Parelli is that it IS so cotentious - I mean, you never get this sort of discussion about clicker training, do you? People either do it or they don't - you don't get endless debates about whether or not it's actually abusive. Clearly, that view has come from something, it's not just people being spiteful. If there are enough Catwalk cases that this public view has arisen, I kind of think that says something about the method...

PErsonally I think a lot of the science of parelli is flawed and a lot of what he says is completely ridiculous - e.g. I think the use of the carrot stick in the initial games is particularly ridiculous because of the backwards thinking. Take this, which comes from a parelli section of a well0known book - in the initial game (can't remember what it's called, but i think it's the friendly game) - you are using the sdtick to stroke your horse all over in imitation of its mother licking it when it was a foal. When it relaxes, you take the stick away. If it moves you carry on wiht the pressure, and the pressure halter will also ask it to halt.

Well, for starters that's a bit odd becuase a) why would it feel nice for a horse to be stroked with a stick, b) if you're doing something that feels nice you DEFINITELY should not need a pressure halter to make it stand still, c) if it feels nice, why would you stop doing it when it relaxes?!?

To top it all off, then in the next game you start making it move away from the stick, even though you've just been teaching it (in a flawed way!) to stand still!! No wonder you end up with broken down parelli horses....

Furthermore, this moving away is supposed to be in imitation of the mother teaching the foal to move out of her way - fair enough. However, in the context of a 'game' I think that's again inherently crazy. A mare does not practice drilling her foal to move out of her way on a daily basis in short sesions - she simply tells it to move and they both get on with it. No drilling required!

It just makes no sense. And those are only the first two games!!! Feedback welcome...
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You make some excellent and logical points. I have used a carot stick with the rope attached to desensitise 'jumpy' horses. I have not read the Parelli explanation of the friendly game but if they are likening it to the mother licking her foal then it is bonkers! Yes, the carrot stick is a useful tool to use as an extension of your arm for nervous horses. You can progress to tying things such as plastic bags on the end to help desensitise horses. It is also a useful tool to maintain your personal space when handling a young or stroppy horse, but I have seen it used by Parelli people to hit horses (they would say tap).

I do find much of Parelli stuff rather aggressive, but the good stuff can be quite useful.
 
scrunchie said:
The carrot stick is supposed to be used as an extension of your arm. I think it's main purpose is so that you can stay in one place, away from potential kicks, while you stroke the horse with the stick. It's quite a useful bit of kit for working with youngsters and nervous horses but you could get the desired effect with a schooling whip.

I haven't read any books. I've only seen the online vids.
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Thats all it is, an extension of your arm. It allows you to work the horse without moving your feet.

I went to a demo last week where a Parelli trainer, now working as an independant, though a high level instructor within the Parelli program, didn't use a stick at all. In just over an hour the horse was ridden at walk, trot and canter in a headcollar and loose rope. No fuss no drama.

This was not a Parelli horse and had had no prior Parelli handling.

It was on a racing yard and the horse was clearly a handfull as it dragged the groom around in the manege and did a bit of rearing before the demo had even started.

Excellent job.
 
Pale Rider said:
What you have said here is spot on. You would find or maybe you have found already that, the template of Parelli, teaches you to read the horse and react accordingly. There are built into the program different approaches to different types of horse behaviour. Crudely speaking you wouldn't treat a fearful nervous type the same as a bold in your face type. Basically, I suppose what I'm trying to say is that there are a myriad of approaches to use within the Parelli program depending on how the horse presents. You are right, it's not rocket science but it is good horsemanship. Pehaps, it is a bit insulting to some folk doubting their ability to mix different schools, but you see enough people making a pigs ear of one approach to leave you a little jaundiced in your opinion.
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I agree in essence with what you are saying, and understand what you say about the 'template' it is just that I do not feel comfortable with the different options that the parelli template provides to its 'followers' (no other word - sorry) and for me, I feel that I can assess and adapt, my approach without spending a lot of money following a method that doesn't feel right to me, because if you don't believe in it yourself, you are never going to be able to communicate with the horse correctly. I also think that there are many people who make a pigs ear out of all approaches and a mixture of them! :D
 
Wagtail said:
You make some excellent and logical points. I have used a carot stick with the rope attached to desensitise 'jumpy' horses. I have not read the Parelli explanation of the friendly game but if they are likening it to the mother licking her foal then it is bonkers! Yes, the carrot stick is a useful tool to use as an extension of your arm for nervous horses. You can progress to tying things such as plastic bags on the end to help desensitise horses. It is also a useful tool to maintain your personal space when handling a young or stroppy horse, but I have seen it used by Parelli people to hit horses (they would say tap).

I do find much of Parelli stuff rather aggressive, but the good stuff can be quite useful.
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It's not likened to a mare licking a foal, chinese whisper here I think. I have heard it said that when the string is put over the horses back in a rythmical motion, it is a sensation it will be familiar with, like a mare flicking its tail over a foal, I've seen that a million times.

Like all things its knowing the technique, and with bags tied to the stick or whatever, its knowing when to release that teaches.
 
Hi PAle Rider

this is what came from a section of a book written by a parelli person. I can't remember exactly who off the top of my head but if it wasn't parelli himself then it certainly would have been someone high up - the other sections are all by the people at the top of their games (E.g. mark rashid, heather simpson etc). Fair enough though, even if they got that one thing wrong about it being like a mare, I'm interested in how you'd respond to the other points i made though? Like, if it feels nice, then why take it away when they relax? IF it's so nice, why use a pressure halter if they move? Surely you should do it loose in the field if it's really about trust? Why use the stick at all, as a basic starting point with all horses? Why, as soon as you've taught the horse to stand still with th stick, then teach it to move away?? Just all seems pretty backwards to me, but I'm interested in what you think about these?

I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm generally interested.

Thansk
 
Parelli teaches a horse not to fear the stick. It can be used to teach a horse to back up and also to come forwards towards you in later levels. If used correctly then it doesn't cause confusion.

As others have said go and join a free no obligation trial on Parelli connect. You can find a lot of answers to your questions there.

I'm very happy with using Parelli training on my horse as others are. There's enough room in this world for lots of different training methods - if you don't want to do Parelli then fair enough go do your own thing :)
 
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