Parelli is useless? Can you do this?

circus tricks - that is all.

Also, why are so many posting this looks incredibly like a troll post as the OP hasn't said anything since posting, surely just another thread to wind people up and start parelli argument
 
JunoXV said:
Not at all. He is a lean mean jumping machine. The destroyer of all things poofy. He is however a little larger than your average weedy human. :D
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Lean - erm have you seen his photos?!!
Mean - only when being deprived of lunch
Jumping machine - in his head always!

I have to confess I didn't teach him the lorry trick - I bought him as a ride and drive.........!
 
SirenaXVI said:
Sirena for instance backs up without the need for a wiggling rope thing, she will back up all round the school if I so wish, she also does spanish walk and passage by copying my actions, however, I tend to spend more time on her back than fiddling about on the ground.
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Ooh! How do you teach that?! I would love that as a party trick, purely for our own amusement obviously! :)
 
RebelRebel said:
Oh dear JunoXV whatever shall we do with you? :D
This is not the idea at all.
You are not actually meant to get on the horse, I mean that would be way too scary.:cool:
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That is so not true. I have his permission to ride him. Well he hasn't actually told me directly but he stands still when I put his saddle on, opens his mouth for the bit without me having to insert fingers in mouth, stands loose while i go find the crate to stand on, remains sleeping during the clambering on process, doesn't twitch a hair while I faf with stirrups and girth. When I do eventually ask him to walk on he does so happily. So I guess I do have his permission so is ok by the P standard :p
 
JunoXV said:
That is so not true. I have his permission to ride him. Well he hasn't actually told me directly but he stands still when I put his saddle on, opens his mouth for the bit without me having to insert fingers in mouth, stands loose while i go find the crate to stand on, remains sleeping during the clambering on process, doesn't twitch a hair while I faf with stirrups and girth. When I do eventually ask him to walk on he does so happily. So I guess I do have his permission so is ok by the P standard :p
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Thats sounds exactly like mine, esp the remaining asleep part, he's not so good with the bit, but thats more to do with being too asleep to open his mouth most of the time :p
 
is it useful? no.

slightly daft? yes.

a product of hard work? yes. she should be congratulated for spending all the time and effort on her horse, but to be honest, i think ANYONE could get almost any horse to do things like that with enough time and patience. which is obviously what that girl has tonnes of.

i also feel slightly when i see videos like that, and parelli in 'action' in real life that the horses sometimes lose their 'horseness' if that makes sense. i know we ask our horse to do things it wouldn't naturally do, and trust plays a part in that. but sometimes (and not all the time) parelli'd horses look a bit brainwashed.... :(
 
clipcloppop said:
i also feel slightly when i see videos like that, and parelli in 'action' in real life that the horses sometimes lose their 'horseness' if that makes sense. i know we ask our horse to do things it wouldn't naturally do, and trust plays a part in that. but sometimes (and not all the time) parelli'd horses look a bit brainwashed.... :(
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I feel that about many horses though. I actually feel worse when I see certain riding school ponies looking bored as hell and depressed.
 
I have a horse that follows me around with no leadrope, comes to me on call, will stand while I hold a bucket of feed under her nose and will not eat it until I say so, will stand in her stable with the door wide open and only come out if I call her and will walk back in if I tell her "back". Although she is not a circus pony and I certainly on ask any of this on a daily basis as I have no need to

I have'nt spent ages training her with a stick or rope.

We have spent 8 years together and I trust her and she trusts me. Its a bond not Parelli.

She is a pony with the biggest fear of travelling but through trust, she will follow me into a trailer or horsebox.

Whatever happened to old fashioned common sense?

The only thing I can praise Parelli for is coming up with a clever enough scheme to get people to part with their money and believing in something that comes through with trust anyway.
 
No I can't do that - my horse would look at me as if I were nuts if I tried, and then happily load himself and shove his head in the haynet :D
 
My horse can be caught, ridden, shod and loaded without any farting about on circus tricks or cruel cowboy methods. I believe she's entitled to some dignity and safety and so I wouldn't "teach" her to walk backwards into a trailer and most definately NOT to canter into one. She's a dream to handle on the ground and a lot of fun to ride. If I ever fall off it's not her fault and she'll stand quietly beside me looking concerned. We have a bond based on trust and understanding and she knows that if I do raise my voice and tell her to do something then it's for good reason. As in stop messing about on the road and walk past the scary flappy plastic bag instead of swinging her bum into traffic. Sorry... sideways rant but I think we are getting a real rash of these - can your pony do this type of challenges and frankly OP she probably could but I'd rather she didn't so she won't be any time soon. What people chose do to is their own concern but I'm not posting images of her grazing in her field or grooming her field mate (i.e. behaving like a normal horse) cos I really don't think people need to see it so why do you think we'd want to see your private moments, never mind emulate them!
 
Got to say I don't know if my pony would do that however she had only ever been in a horsebox twice in her life when I got her and she has never been a problem to load ever.

She will happily follow me around without either a headcollar or leadrope on - this just being achieved by building a good strong bond with her and doing what I would call normal horsey things i.e. no carrot stick or thingymabob required.

When I bought her she was quite head shy and was difficult to bridle but again just with plain old time and patience she will now let me do anything I need to around her head and puts her head down nicely to bridle and when I say open she very obligingly opens her mouth for the bit.

She is the first horse I have owned. I am no expert by any means. I just listened to a range of advice from other more experience horse owners, read stuff posted on here and picked out and used the stuff that made the most sense to me.

As the say in the advert "simples" :)
 
NeilM said:
It's pretty easy to do, all I have to do is say "let's see yer boots' to my gelding, and he will pick each of his feet up in turn, so that I can pick them out.
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Like it... we say "tootsies please!" to ours to the same effect!

both outs load themselves and always have, never having done Parelli, they just like going places and realise that the trailer does that! equally they'll load themselves up to come home too!

I agree with NeilM here, it all comes down to tricks. So long as my horses have manners and are happy to do as they are told then its fine by me, I don't need (really Don't need) them to stand on boxes, they're big enough already, or to lie down on command (tho it would make getting on easier! ;))
 
Off the topic of the video, but the background music is sooo annoyingly catchy. BF has just got out of bed, picked up a guitar and has taught himself to play it. Purely to wind me up. Thanks.
 
JunoXV said:
That is so not true. I have his permission to ride him. Well he hasn't actually told me directly but he stands still when I put his saddle on, opens his mouth for the bit without me having to insert fingers in mouth, stands loose while i go find the crate to stand on, remains sleeping during the clambering on process, doesn't twitch a hair while I faf with stirrups and girth. When I do eventually ask him to walk on he does so happily. So I guess I do have his permission so is ok by the P standard :p
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Ron is much the same... tho I do have to persuade him about the bit sometimes as he seems to fall asleep with his mouth tight shut!
 
Why would I WANT to do that with my horse?!

My old pony self loaded himself, he loved going to parties.

A pony on the yard will trot up onto our lorry himself - we used to just open the stable and he would trot onto the lorry by himself.

My horse loads happily and safely into a lorry or trailer - and I didnt need to use any "tricks" to get him on!!

Parelli is all about "games".
 
I think that everyone here is actually a secret parelli fan.

"tootsies please"???

Show offs!!!
 
Golf Girl said:
Fantastic! Why would you want to do it? Because it's FUN! As we brainwashed, rope-wiggling, stick-wielding, ridiculous Pat Parelli worshippers say 'it's not about the trailer ..........'
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No. using the trailer to transport your horse to another place and then ride it when you get there is fun. If you want to play those sort of games then you might as well get a dog. :rolleyes:
 
My question for the poster:
Do you think this is well trained and safe? What would have happened if a child had walked across the path of the horse when it was cantering in to the trailer.
What would have happened if the horse had tripped and hurt itself?

This video does not show that she is at one with her horses it just shows that she can do tricks. I had a horse that used to leap into the box at speed and quite frankly it is dangerous for the handler and also the horse.

Both of my horses walk nice and calmly up the ramp, yes I can get them to back up or go forward and I can do it without a headcollar or rope attached, they are very well behaved and work off my voice, but quite frankly my issue when off somewhere is to get them ready and load up to get to the place I need to be - not fanny about like a clown!
 
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