Parelli ISN'T a real issue!!

I only watched a part of the vid, as was sickend by the 'specacle'. I am also deeply concerned that this was hosted by a prison which houses violent criminals, the link between sociopathy and abuse of animals is well known and recorded in many places. One of the stated aims of incarceration is to rehabilitate offenders, this appears to reinforce the idea that other living beings are only there for the use or entertainment of those who have the power and strength to impose their will on them. I cannot see what this is intended to gain.
 
This post has been up for over 24 hours and it's only on page 10...pretty sure the Parelli thread was onto page 50 24 hours after the first post.

I signed a while back, I'm not against all rodeo but the use of wild animals is a huge issue for me. The arguement that accidents happen in all horse sport is laughable. If a horse breaks it's leg racing or eventing or at any other sport in the Uk they will quickly stop the competition, put up sheet and dispatch the horse as quickly as possible. You sure as hell wouldn't see any horse being roped and DRAGGED back stage on the be beaten back onto its feet to be dragged further then left to stand with TWO BROKEN LEGS for god knows how long.
 
I too am shamelessly bumping. I agree that accidents happen in other sports, but usually, these animals are cared for immediatly, and if euthenasia is not performed because they feel the animal can be saved, they give it drugs immediatly to put it out of pain, and then often spend undreds of thousands of dollars trying to save them.

the prison rodeo is on the top of the list for this petition for many reasons. the inmates not being rehab'd by this, the animals suffering, spectators thinking it is FUN, and tax dollars. The petition will work it's way down the list for sure. I believe, if I read corectly, PETA is the first place the petition will be sent. from there I have to wait until I "out myself" to ask the originator where all he/she will take this. I will report back to all of you as to the progress to come of this. I full well intend to stay intouch with the originator to see that the intentions are carried out. though i have no doubts in them.

thank you again for all of you who are supporting this, at this rate, about 160 sigs a day, we have 27.5 days to go to reach 5000.

we have no idea if and when the prison rodeo's 'cancelled" annual 2010 edition could be resumed. they are using the excuse of "budget cuts" but we all know it was due to sharks involvement, they just don't want to admit any wrong doing, and they are just waiting for this whole thing to blow over, so they can pick up right where they left off.

Please help stop this disgusting act of "humanity":cool:
 
Silverspring said:
You sure as hell wouldn't see any horse being roped and DRAGGED back stage on the be beaten back onto its feet to be dragged further then left to stand with TWO BROKEN LEGS for god knows how long.
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Is that what happened? I couldn't watch after about 30secs of the poor thing stumbling around :(

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Stencilface said:
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Is that what happened? I couldn't watch after about 30secs of the poor thing stumbling around :(

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yes that is exactly what happened. and we are not talking just a 'little" broke either, we are talking "broke in half" both legs, then dragged roughly 300+ yards, beaten to stand when it fell down, then left to suffer being pushed around by other frightened horses for god knows how long.

no, it is not easy to watch, not in the least. not without serious tears, or seriously puking. this is no exageration in the slightest.

if anyone doesn't believe, watch if you can.:cool:
 
That is hideous.

Feel sick just thinking about it, couldn't bear to watch - how sick are the people working there/watching it. They should suffer the same for enjoying that 'entertainment' :mad:
 
I watched most of the video and was absolutely sickened by it. Even the tiny calves being dragged around by their necks. Where is the animals' dignity, and right to be free of pain?

Ive signed it and Ill happily support any other animal rights issues people want to raise.
 
I've watched sharksonline videos before, crying so hard I couldn't see so I won't watch this one as I know exactly what it will be like. Signed the petition though.

If people donate, just want to make you aware you are donating to the site hosting the petition not the organization you signed the petition for
 
Faithkat said:
How come the American Humane Association, whose name is plastered all over film credits, isn't involved in stamping out this kind of very public abuse and cruelty then?????????
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I emailed two American friends who have both signed the petition. They are both horse riders but had no idea this went on. They are as shocked as we are.
 
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Signed last week when T n C posted it. Have also circulated it to my non horsey friends not on this forum.

Perhaps people that are on other forums, such as cat and dog forums could also post the link as this is something for all animal lovers to be concerned about, not just horse lovers. I think that would be a good way forward to getitng more sigs.
 
I do wonder if this thread would have more response if the title was a little more descriptive and didn't have the dreaded 'P' word in it. I think a lot of people are now not reading the Parelli posts as they seem to be covering the same ground over and over and also tend to descend into slanging matches.

I think this thread is too important to get 'lost' in all the other threads. We do some truly horrific things to animals in the name of sport.

I have already signed the petition as watching the video of the poor horse with the broken legs totally sickened me.
 
I totally agree - wonder if it's worth asking JanetGeorge to reqest a name change for it ? Or even start a new thread with a name that'll hit the spot. I guess at the end of the day, if a new thread is started, it will simply get more signatures for the petition which is the wanted outcome :confused:
 
ORANGEHORSE said:
I have signed. This is why Parelli, Monty Roberts, etc. are so BIG - there is a completely different attitude in the USA in general, and a lot of the "kinder way" people are openly laughed and scoffed at. Rodeo with cattle and horses are on TV as entertainment.

In a way I can see how this occurred. If you had to catch a horse from the wild to break it in and make it rideable you would catch it when young and weak - hence horses in the USA are routinely broken in as 2 year olds, this is the norm. If a horse had never been handled and was nervous then to avoid injury a handler would keep it subdued, by tying it up in ropes, making it fall, etc. to literally break its spirit.

When Monty Roberts came to the UK and showed his way of breaking in, a lot of the audience was mistified, in the main horses in the UK are broken in gently and carefully.
Of course they are in the USA too, but there is still this culture of a horse being a wild and dangerous animals that has to be broken and beaten into submission.
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Please don't lump all Americans together like this. It is as unfair as lumping any group of people together.

The United States is a big country and the tradition of rodeo and wild horse breaking is confined to only a portion of it. In the eastern part of the US, people have used the methods of gentling and handling colts from babies for generation upon generation. And indeed, throughout the US, the majority of people raise and train their horses this way.

Many, many Americans do not support rodeo. Most Americans do not support "breaking" horses. Breaking and training 2 year olds is certainly NOT the norm here - while it is true for racehorses and some impatient types, virtually every horse person I know agrees that 4 is an appropriate age for backing.

Everything you say may have been true 100 years ago in certain parts of the country but it is not now. While certain aspects of rodeo still apply to ranch work, much of it is a leftover of a bygone era. And both Monty Roberts and Pat Parelli exaggerate the numbers of people who still follow those precepts. Why not? It makes them look good. But it's not indicative of the true situation.

That said, there is much cruelty everywhere and rodeo in particular is guilty of a great deal of it. Sign the petition and thank you for doing so.
 
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