Blurr
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They've yet to make a hat that's big enough for Pratt's head. The only wonder is that they found one for his bint.
Parelli's view on safety helmets!
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Pale Rider
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Oh the bile, lol, you can taste it. 
HBM1
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afraid I wouldn't listen to their views on how to empty a water bucket, let alone anything else.
patchwork puzzle
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Sixteen Hands
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I am confused by the statement in the original article "Personally speaking we"...
Hats save lives or a lifetime of incapacity.
See: http://www.riders4helmets.com/
Hats save lives or a lifetime of incapacity.
See: http://www.riders4helmets.com/
nixharveandpri
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Unfortunately some people will take these idiots comments at face value and ride without a hat 
I guess if they manage to flog off £2.5k+ mechanical horses to all the numpties, they'll be safe enough ...
I guess if they manage to flog off £2.5k+ mechanical horses to all the numpties, they'll be safe enough ...
Natch
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This
how does a modern riding hat affect balance and perception? Oh I see how it could, yes! When you ride under a branch and you duck, you need your hair and scalp to check it's distance because your eyes can't see. Oh yes silly me just thinking "it doesn't matter if I've misjudged this branch a little cos I've got a hat on" 
If I'd have been bareheaded, I would have known exactly how low the branch was by the depth of the gouge in my head I think their views would be to empty it and then not fill it again
Beat me to it!
Those who say hats are for wimps ... I don't understand that point of view
Is it lost in translation across the pond?moosea
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Love
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Well, they'll have to wrestle mine off me if they think I shouldn't wear it.
Goldenstar
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Unfortunately some people will take these idiots comments at face value and ride without a hat
I guess if they manage to flog off £2.5k+ mechanical horses to all the numpties, they'll be safe enough ...
They have mechanical horses .... Now I understand the withholding water thing.
Pale Rider
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I was, as you may have guessed at the Parelli event at Aintree over the weekend. What a fantastic time we had. Every seat was sold and we even had people prepared to stand all day just to watch.
It was super meeting old and new friends from all round the country, people who actually knew what they were seeing and talking about, made a refreshing change.
Of course, there are always the reports of people being bullied and having their equipment damaged on livery yards because they follow Parelli, but this to my mind demonstrates how strong these folk are. To put up with the hate mongers and carry on regardless gets my vote, although one youngster and her pony who were targeted by yard bullies and was forced to move took things to a lower level in my view.
On a positive note, Pat was his usual entertaining self, quite brilliant, you forget just how good this man is until you get a reminder and see him working in the flesh.
It was good to meet Colleen Kelly, very interesting. Overall, some excellent displays of horsemanship throughout the weekend.
I have to say that I'd recommend the venue at Aintree, the facilities were excellent and the staff very helpful and friendly. Parking was free and right next to the venue, and of course plenty of hotels nearby.
Obviously, reading through the comments on this thread, my post isn't really intended for the anti's, more for those Horse and Hound forum members like myself, who have an interest in Parelli.
It was super meeting old and new friends from all round the country, people who actually knew what they were seeing and talking about, made a refreshing change.
Of course, there are always the reports of people being bullied and having their equipment damaged on livery yards because they follow Parelli, but this to my mind demonstrates how strong these folk are. To put up with the hate mongers and carry on regardless gets my vote, although one youngster and her pony who were targeted by yard bullies and was forced to move took things to a lower level in my view.
On a positive note, Pat was his usual entertaining self, quite brilliant, you forget just how good this man is until you get a reminder and see him working in the flesh.
It was good to meet Colleen Kelly, very interesting. Overall, some excellent displays of horsemanship throughout the weekend.
I have to say that I'd recommend the venue at Aintree, the facilities were excellent and the staff very helpful and friendly. Parking was free and right next to the venue, and of course plenty of hotels nearby.
Obviously, reading through the comments on this thread, my post isn't really intended for the anti's, more for those Horse and Hound forum members like myself, who have an interest in Parelli.
cptrayes
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The bullying in livery yards is inexcusable PR.
But can I ask what your personal views are as to Pat's use of routinely withholding water as a training mechanism, and Linda's use of smacking a horse as hard as possible under the jaw with the clip on a long line are?
You are normally so completely against using smacking or force, that I can't see how these things sit happily with you?
It feels very odd to be told by you that I am failing in my training because I smack my horses, only to hear you describe a man who advocates far worse, in my opinion, as "brilliant".
But can I ask what your personal views are as to Pat's use of routinely withholding water as a training mechanism, and Linda's use of smacking a horse as hard as possible under the jaw with the clip on a long line are?
You are normally so completely against using smacking or force, that I can't see how these things sit happily with you?
It feels very odd to be told by you that I am failing in my training because I smack my horses, only to hear you describe a man who advocates far worse, in my opinion, as "brilliant".
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Ibblebibble
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lets face it, if you're daft enough not to wear a hat on their say so then it's only going to be natural selection at work if you fall off and brain yourself
Pale Rider
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The Parelli horses are shod as well, so not everything someone does I agree with. I have my own views, but, not everyone agrees with everything I do either.
It's all about the horses really I suppose, I don't care what peoples opinions are of Parelli and I'm not going to change them, but every horse at the venue last weekend was treated far better than horse's I've seen at any horse event in the UK. Racing, eventing or just a show, there are some real horror bags out there, most don't even know it.
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FfionWinnie
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Whenever I've thought that I couldn't hear anything more stupid from or about the Parellis, smack and bang, something else comes up. Personally speaking we feel very uncomfortable wearing helmets because it affects our balance and perceptiveness. *sigh* Yeah, and if you are about to fall off, just flap with your arms and try to fly...
Or wait, you could just forget about if you should wear or not wear a helmet, and simply buy one of their mechanical horses instead! There is 3 to choose between as well!
"... that allows riders to exercise, improve fitness and balance, rehab from an injury, and train for riding real horses."
Equicizer
So first they make people stop riding their horses until they're safe enough, and meanwhile they want to sell you a mechanical horse that you can train on...
Funny I'd have thought a mechanical horse would affect your "perceptiveness" more than a hat on a real horse. What do I know
Goldenstar
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Everyone should do what works for them.
But what I hate really hate and this is where the NH people went wrong for me when they got started in the uk is when people go down the 'here's my magic system all others ways are cruel' route and I have sat through demos and heard NH people say exactly this it just plain annoys me , it's like the all dressage / racing / western training ( insert whatever you what) is cruel laments you hear it's just patently not true and narrow minded.
I don't do grurus never have I think it's a lazy way to try to train yourself .
No one person / system has all the answers .
But what I hate really hate and this is where the NH people went wrong for me when they got started in the uk is when people go down the 'here's my magic system all others ways are cruel' route and I have sat through demos and heard NH people say exactly this it just plain annoys me , it's like the all dressage / racing / western training ( insert whatever you what) is cruel laments you hear it's just patently not true and narrow minded.
I don't do grurus never have I think it's a lazy way to try to train yourself .
No one person / system has all the answers .
cptrayes
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Fair enough.
FinnishLapphund
There's no cow on the ice
I agree about that no "method" is 100% foolproof, and even though my view on Parelli is more like this
cptrayes
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MerrySherryRider
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I was, as you may have guessed at the Parelli event at Aintree over the weekend. What a fantastic time we had. Every seat was sold and we even had people prepared to stand all day just to watch.
It was super meeting old and new friends from all round the country, people who actually knew what they were seeing and talking about, made a refreshing change.
Of course, there are always the reports of people being bullied and having their equipment damaged on livery yards because they follow Parelli, but this to my mind demonstrates how strong these folk are. To put up with the hate mongers and carry on regardless gets my vote, although one youngster and her pony who were targeted by yard bullies and was forced to move took things to a lower level in my view.
On a positive note, Pat was his usual entertaining self, quite brilliant, you forget just how good this man is until you get a reminder and see him working in the flesh.
It was good to meet Colleen Kelly, very interesting. Overall, some excellent displays of horsemanship throughout the weekend.
I have to say that I'd recommend the venue at Aintree, the facilities were excellent and the staff very helpful and friendly. Parking was free and right next to the venue, and of course plenty of hotels nearby.
Obviously, reading through the comments on this thread, my post isn't really intended for the anti's, more for those Horse and Hound forum members like myself, who have an interest in Parelli.
Interesting. Over the years I have been at a couple of Parelli demonstrations and have been so disturbed by what I saw, that I left.
No other NH or behavioural training method has ever left me feeling so utterly sad.
tango'smum
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and has anyone seen there cradle bridle..... that is not a nice soft bridle.. its very harsh... i have seen the damage it has coursed...
Shantara
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This makes me very sad. How dare they try and belittle us for wearing a helmet?
Like others have said, it doesn't matter how good your horse is, or how good you are, accidents happen. Through no fault of your own, or your horses you could hurt your head and without a hat, the damage could be so much worse.
Just because you wear a hat, doesn't mean you aren't careful. I wear one, but I'll still watch Toby (a kicker) like a hawk!
Utterly ridiculous! Makes me sick.
Like others have said, it doesn't matter how good your horse is, or how good you are, accidents happen. Through no fault of your own, or your horses you could hurt your head and without a hat, the damage could be so much worse.
Just because you wear a hat, doesn't mean you aren't careful. I wear one, but I'll still watch Toby (a kicker) like a hawk!
Utterly ridiculous! Makes me sick.
Pale Rider
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Bit out of touch here, everyone at Aintree wore a safety hat except Pat himself. I'm sure I've said that before.
Lothmorwel
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I can see what they are saying in that you should be safe and know your horse and not rely on a hat to save you if you know bad things will happen - ride a safe horse and you shouldn't need a het.
But OF COURSE you should wear a hat wilst riding! So what if they 'alter balance and perceptveness' - get over it! Horses get used to people sat on them, why fuss about a hat?
Like people have said - what about those freak accidents no-one sees coming?
Some unfortunate wording was used in that article. I see what they are trying to say but bottom line is you should wear a helmet - just in case.
But OF COURSE you should wear a hat wilst riding! So what if they 'alter balance and perceptveness' - get over it! Horses get used to people sat on them, why fuss about a hat?
Like people have said - what about those freak accidents no-one sees coming?
Some unfortunate wording was used in that article. I see what they are trying to say but bottom line is you should wear a helmet - just in case.
Shantara
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Bit out of touch here, everyone at Aintree wore a safety hat except Pat himself. I'm sure I've said that before.
I'm sure you have said it before. Still doesn't make it any better! Someone like him should never ever say "You don't need a hat" (or words to that effect). People like him should set an example!
If I was in a position to influence people as he does, I would be telling people to get a good fitting hat and other such safety things!