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Hi, I'm just wondering what the usual expectation is around part livery. I've only had my pony a few weeks, she's on part livery but I've had to go and catch her most days to bring in as the staff can't. She isn't hard for me to catch.
I'm not sure what I should do next? I've left treats for them to use and told them how I catch her.
 
SandraD1* said:
Hi, I'm just wondering what the usual expectation is around part livery. I've only had my pony a few weeks, she's on part livery but I've had to go and catch her most days to bring in as the staff can't. She isn't hard for me to catch.
I'm not sure what I should do next? I've left treats for them to use and told them how I catch her.
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Can you go when they are bringing in and see what the problem is for yourself?
 
Hi, welcome to the forum. 😁
Your pony had a big change in her life recently. It's lovely that she trusts you already. Can you go with the staff a few times while she gets to know them and the new routine? Is she with other ponies in the field? Do they come in at the same time?
 
Hi, I'm at work when the staff bring them in - hence why she's on part. When I go and get her it's quite late. There are other ponies out with her and they come in when she should.
I did show one of the girls at the weekend how I get her but the problem is it's not always the same people.
I do have a problem when I've caught her, she refuses to move. It takes me and my partner alot of time actually getting her out of the field. I'm not sure what to do about that! I've tried turning her, taking another pony, treats, flicking a lead rope.
 
SandraD1* said:
Hi, I'm at work when the staff bring them in - hence why she's on part. When I go and get her it's quite late. There are other ponies out with her and they come in when she should.
I did show one of the girls at the weekend how I get her but the problem is it's not always the same people.
I do have a problem when I've caught her, she refuses to move. It takes me and my partner alot of time actually getting her out of the field. I'm not sure what to do about that! I've tried turning her, taking another pony, treats, flicking a lead rope.
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Take a stick and flick it at her as soon as she looks like she will stop, it's probably why the staff are not getting her in as it takes too long.
 
SandraD1* said:
Hi, I'm at work when the staff bring them in - hence why she's on part. When I go and get her it's quite late. There are other ponies out with her and they come in when she should.
I did show one of the girls at the weekend how I get her but the problem is it's not always the same people.
I do have a problem when I've caught her, she refuses to move. It takes me and my partner alot of time actually getting her out of the field. I'm not sure what to do about that! I've tried turning her, taking another pony, treats, flicking a lead rope.
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My pony used to do this, I had a ground work specialist come out to help us deal with the planting. It was so beneficial

I'd also look at why your pony doesn't want to come in either - as solving that helped more than anything. Is that she's always worked when she comes in? Is she uncomfortable in her work? Does she not like her stable? Does she have company?Etc etc.
 
Easiest and quickest way to fix planting is to apply pressure and pull them slightly to the side. Any movement- even just crossing their legs and stepping to the side, release the pressure.
I sort serial planters completely out in about 3 days with that method and it’s not failed me in 30 years.
 
I am on part livery too. Bert was tricky to catch when he first went into herd turnout coming from a yard where he had been on individual turnout where he was easy to catch to the joy of having friends and more grass than he was used to it was no surprise he wanted to stay out.

He always comes into a small feed and he no longer requires a treat to be caught. He got a bit fat and now wears a flexible filly grazing muzzle and no problem with catching now. He does occasionally plant but other times he really wants to come in depends on his mood and the weather somewhat.

Have you tried putting a field safe headcollar on as then something to grab quickly before she moves away. What happens if they leave her to last and take all her friends first?

My previous pony was very easy to catch you could put him out for 10 minutes and get him he was very easy.
 
scats said:
Easiest and quickest way to fix planting is to apply pressure and pull them slightly to the side. Any movement- even just crossing their legs and stepping to the side, release the pressure.
I sort serial planters completely out in about 3 days with that method and it’s not failed me in 30 years.
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This is what I would do .
 
scats said:
Easiest and quickest way to fix planting is to apply pressure and pull them slightly to the side. Any movement- even just crossing their legs and stepping to the side, release the pressure.
I sort serial planters completely out in about 3 days with that method and it’s not failed me in 30 years.
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This is what I did with my big 17:3 who had accidentally got a shock off the electric fence going through a gate and then would plant at the gate and refuse to go through it. Took a couple of sessions and then he stopped planting in the gateway.
 
MuddyMonster said:
My pony used to do this, I had a ground work specialist come out to help us deal with the planting. It was so beneficial

I'd also look at why your pony doesn't want to come in either - as solving that helped more than anything. Is that she's always worked when she comes in? Is she uncomfortable in her work? Does she not like her stable? Does she have company?Etc etc.
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This

Get a groundwork specialist who can help you understand what she is asking and what she needs from you.
 
Whether they should be getting her in or not depends on your part livery agreement - they vary!

However it should not be mistaken for a “training livery”. I wouldn’t expect a livery to carry out tasks for my horse unless my horse was trained to do them. Whether this was being caught, leading nicely, having their feet picked out etc. Of course horses are animals and may have days where their handling isn’t as straight forward, but in general I wouldn’t expect a livery yard to do anything I couldn’t easily do with my own horse, unless I had put them on a training livery to sort the issues!
 
scats said:
Easiest and quickest way to fix planting is to apply pressure and pull them slightly to the side. Any movement- even just crossing their legs and stepping to the side, release the pressure.
I sort serial planters completely out in about 3 days with that method and it’s not failed me in 30 years.
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My friends horse was the same turning out. He would plant, not every time so we felt it wasn't that he didn't like the company, more like he preferred the comfort of his hay net and stable!

As I was tasked with t/o on the days she didn't come up and didn't want to spend 20 mins trying to persuade him to move, a session of walking through the field in front of his field backwards soon sorted the napping behaviour issue out.
 
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