Willow123!
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Hello! How much would you charge / expect to pay for a part loan 3 days per week?
Part loan contribution - 3 days pw
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Gloi
Too little time, too much to read.
Is the owner keeping it on livery? If so about half of that.
PinkvSantaboots
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You have to give a bit more information really.
What kind of horse is the horse a plod around the woods or potentially a competitive type ?
Do you have to do jobs or full livery?
What are the facilities at the yard?
What kind of horse is the horse a plod around the woods or potentially a competitive type ?
Do you have to do jobs or full livery?
What are the facilities at the yard?
Willow123!
Active Member
Assisted DIY but part loaner would be expected to pay for any turn out / bring in / full livery used on their days on top of fee
Nice pony - would suit small adult rather than kid. Could do some local showing on it. Yes all jobs to be done. Has a full size dressage outdoor and American barn stables.
Nice pony - would suit small adult rather than kid. Could do some local showing on it. Yes all jobs to be done. Has a full size dressage outdoor and American barn stables.
SaddlePsych'D
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It's so variable, you'll probably get quite a few different answers. I can give a few from my experience of part-loan/share:
- £100/month to ride once per week hacking as long as I liked, no jobs (full livery, yard with school and excellent hacking)
- £80/month to ride twice per week with mucking out, hay, and turn out/in depending on which end of the day (assisted DIY, yard with good hacking and a school)
- £150/month to ride twice per week with cleaning tack (full livery, yard with okay hacking and a school)
I did also look at another which was £250/month to ride up to three times per week with no jobs. At the pricier end for me but yard with good facilities and hacking plus much more opportunity for training/lessons/competing.
- £100/month to ride once per week hacking as long as I liked, no jobs (full livery, yard with school and excellent hacking)
- £80/month to ride twice per week with mucking out, hay, and turn out/in depending on which end of the day (assisted DIY, yard with good hacking and a school)
- £150/month to ride twice per week with cleaning tack (full livery, yard with okay hacking and a school)
I did also look at another which was £250/month to ride up to three times per week with no jobs. At the pricier end for me but yard with good facilities and hacking plus much more opportunity for training/lessons/competing.
expanding_horizon
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1/2 of what costs the owner to keep the horse a month, assuming was on DIY.
Willow123!
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How much is a DIY yard with an outdoor and good hacking charging a week roughly?
Zoeypxo
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How much does the livery cost and is the horse shod or barefoot?
Surbie
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If I was looking at sharing I wouldn't be looking at faffing about with extra charges here and there, particularly if I was paying AND doing jobs. Equally I wouldn't come twice in a day - it's a share, not a loan.
DIY where I am is anywhere between 220/month and 350/month. Shares for 2-3 days/week with jobs (but only coming once a day) are about £100-150/month.
IrishMilo
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Anything from £30 - £75 per week depending on where in the country you are and what facilities you have.
My sharer paid me £120 a month. My livery was £475 a month (not including bedding or feed).
I charged a flat rate and if she couldn't be there to bring the horse in then I paid the charge.
Willow123!
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Thanks all! I am the potential part loaner. The proposed fee is £150 per month and it just shocked me a little given that includes full jobs plus any assisted DIY. Previously I've paid a flat rate of £10/day or £130/month with no extra charges. I've calculated it and 1 x turn out or bring in per day for the 3 days takes the total cost up to around £175 per month (plus any full livery for days I can't do).
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criso
Coming over here & taking your jobs since 1900
Between £10 and £20 a day depending on yard, horse and type of livery.
However I wouldn't expect to pay anything extra unless I cancelled my day and horse needed livery cover instead.
However I wouldn't expect to pay anything extra unless I cancelled my day and horse needed livery cover instead.
ester
Not slacking multitasking
Our yard is on the expensive side for DIY and we have quite a lot of sharers (I'm on my 2nd horse on the same yard, it's a nice yard, nice people small, 2 arenas and convenient for me).
I have always expected to do both ends of the day if sharing on DIY/would expect to pay more if not as I see it that the horse is mine on those days, and it doesn't seem much when you've had your own and had to do both ends of the day 7 days a week. If I couldn't I'd expect to be swapping chores with other liveries (but only doable once you know them)
£120 for 2 days seems to be the going rate there. Friends have paid double that + if no chores involved.
I do more for less but that's because I'm a particularly useful sort of sharer
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At the end of the day you have to pick what suits you as an agreement, if it doesn't you're only likely to resent it a bit and not enjoy it as much.
I have always expected to do both ends of the day if sharing on DIY/would expect to pay more if not as I see it that the horse is mine on those days, and it doesn't seem much when you've had your own and had to do both ends of the day 7 days a week. If I couldn't I'd expect to be swapping chores with other liveries (but only doable once you know them)
£120 for 2 days seems to be the going rate there. Friends have paid double that + if no chores involved.
I do more for less but that's because I'm a particularly useful sort of sharer
. At the end of the day you have to pick what suits you as an agreement, if it doesn't you're only likely to resent it a bit and not enjoy it as much.
Rowreach
Adjusting my sails
That doesn't sound too bad to me.
maya2008
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If an average month has 4 1/3 weeks, that’s 13 rides a month. £10 x 13 would be £130. Now people were paying £10 per day ten years ago - cost of living inflation last year alone was 10%. £130 in 2014 when I last had sharers, would be a whopping £170 today.
So £150 seems pretty decent given the cost of feed and bedding is spiralling ever upwards!
So £150 seems pretty decent given the cost of feed and bedding is spiralling ever upwards!
AmyMay
Situation normal
£150 sounds reasonable to me.
Kirstd33
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My teenage daughter rides our Yard owners pony, just 1 day at a weekend generally in term time, 2-3 times a week when she's off school and we pay £15/week and do his jobs eg muck stable out, nets, water, feed, turn out/bring in on "her day"
Suits owner and us, gives her a break, helps keep him fit and has given my daughter much more hands on experience than a riding school could.
Suits owner and us, gives her a break, helps keep him fit and has given my daughter much more hands on experience than a riding school could.
PinkvSantaboots
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I agree why don't you just include the cost for turnout on the sharers days and also you know then it will be dome.
PinkvSantaboots
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Ignore my last post I totally missed yours about you being the loaner, I think £150 is reasonable but I wouldn't expect to pay for the extras either, I think turnout fees and the like should be down to the owner to sort out and pay
dapple_grey
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I pay £25 pw for my share for 3x days. Horse is on 5 day part livery so no stable jobs during the week, just one weekend day. I get to take her competing/hunting regularly so I feel it's a very good deal 
SantaVera
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Three sevenths of the total cost of keeping the horse. Livery,feed,shoes,vet bills,etc and a bit extra for wear and tear of tack. I'd also clean tack once a week and wash numnahs. I ballpark figure would be £300 a month.
I'm Dun
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Why on earth would you be expecting someone to pay for wear and tear of your tack for your horse?! This whole sharing thing is mind boggling to me.
ester
Not slacking multitasking
I've never met anyone actually doing it as a % days 
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criso
Coming over here & taking your jobs since 1900
I know someone who was doing roughly that. Owner rode 2 days and had 2 sharers with 2 days each. The amount charged was a third of the 7 day livery. Of course there are lots of other bills and expenses incurred in keeping a horse so not a third of total expense.I've never met anyone actually doing it as a % days
It was an expensive share but the horse was lovely and the sort that would be ok for a more nervous or inexperienced rider but rose to the occasion for a better rider. No chores and a lovely yard with brilliant facilities and access to amazing hacking.
MuddyMonster
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As an owner, I wouldn't be charging a sharer for vet's bills, either wholly or a percentage of. If they wanted to pay a vet bill, they'd probably own their own! They are just a cost of owning a horse and I don't think it should be passed onto a sharer.
Willow123!
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Some interesting responses...
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malwhit
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With sharing, I do think all vet costs, worming, insuring, etc should be paid by the owner. The sharers are just "renting" the horse for a day/s & should pay a flat fee which should take into account these bills.
If they go away on holiday or they are ill, I think all the sharer need to do is tell the owner, giving them advance warning if possible. The welfare of the horse is the responsibility of the owner. They would still pay their fee if they want to stay as a sharer.
I wonder if the owner of the horse would share out the profit made if they sold the horse? Especially if the sharer is a good rider and improved it's value
If they go away on holiday or they are ill, I think all the sharer need to do is tell the owner, giving them advance warning if possible. The welfare of the horse is the responsibility of the owner. They would still pay their fee if they want to stay as a sharer.
I wonder if the owner of the horse would share out the profit made if they sold the horse? Especially if the sharer is a good rider and improved it's value
oldie48
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I paid considerably more than mentioned so far but the owner did everything, including tack cleaning, clipping etc. I paid what I felt was the value of having a really nicely schooled horse with help from the owner (well qualified trainer with loads of experience who knew the horse inside out) when I asked. I paid £80 for a lesson on a school horse and it wasn't a patch on the horse I shared. I had the use of a nice school, could be flexible about when I rode, the tack was good quality and fitted me and him. His owner would have accepted much less than I decided I wanted to pay but I felt I had a good deal which I could afford and compared with paying for lessons on half decent horses, it was an absolute steal. I mention this as no-one has mentioned the quality, experience and level of training of the horse, which I think is very relevant.
Wishfilly
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Some sharers can be pretty unreliable, so charging for services on missed days ensures someone is actually reliable and turns up.
I think £150 sounds pretty reasonable for 12+ days riding a month- it's not much more than £10 a day- that was about the going rate when I was at uni, especially for a more novice sharer. That's 10+ years ago now, and costs of horse keeping have gone up massively in that time. Particularly for a more novice person who may need some help and supervision to start with.
Generally if the owner is looking for someone to improve their horse, they won't charge a fee and hope to get a better rider that way. When I was younger, there was a difference between me doing a favour exercising a kids' pony in term time, paying for a share, or having a loan in terms of responsibility. In terms of tack, I didn't pay towards wear and tear, but I did replace (with new) anything that ever broke. For loans, obviously I bought a lot of stuff sometimes (with owner's permission) but I kept that at the end of the loan!
Ultimately, though, it's up to the owner. People on here can say it's too much, but if it's a nice horse with what sounds like decent facilities, I think they will get a taker at that sort of price.
I think £150 sounds pretty reasonable for 12+ days riding a month- it's not much more than £10 a day- that was about the going rate when I was at uni, especially for a more novice sharer. That's 10+ years ago now, and costs of horse keeping have gone up massively in that time. Particularly for a more novice person who may need some help and supervision to start with.
Generally if the owner is looking for someone to improve their horse, they won't charge a fee and hope to get a better rider that way. When I was younger, there was a difference between me doing a favour exercising a kids' pony in term time, paying for a share, or having a loan in terms of responsibility. In terms of tack, I didn't pay towards wear and tear, but I did replace (with new) anything that ever broke. For loans, obviously I bought a lot of stuff sometimes (with owner's permission) but I kept that at the end of the loan!
Ultimately, though, it's up to the owner. People on here can say it's too much, but if it's a nice horse with what sounds like decent facilities, I think they will get a taker at that sort of price.
ihatework
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Seems fair provided horse is sound and well behaved.