Passport sketch

[Cheetchy]

Hi everyone hoping someone might be able to help.

I've had an absolute nightmare changing ownership on horses passport. His original passport was issued in Ireland so I sent it off to change ownership only to be told there are some pages missing so they are voiding it.

They won't issue me a new one as I'm in Scotland, I've contacted another passport agency in UK and printed out the forms to re register him and get duplicate passpo. This required a new vet sketch. My boy looks like he is all white but when he's wet you can clearly see his blue and white markings. On original passport he was recorded as piebald and all his markings were on sketch but current vet has listed him as grey with no markings.

Should I ask them to redo it or is the sketch merely what they look like in appearance currently?

Never planning to sell but not sure of this would cause a discrepency if I ever did.

 

[rabatsa]

Grey is his colour now so that is correct. The whorls and aquired marks are unique to him and should have been recorded by your vet.

 

[Bobthecob15]

Ours is with the ISH too, I've recently sent mine off for change of ownership. She's actually down as grey on the passport...but is definitely black! All the microchip numbers etc match. I've not bothered to tell them about the fact she obviously never went grey...I assume they thought she would when it was done as a foal. Not sure if it matters or not!

 

[Polos Mum]

My ex eventer was chestnut on his passport and pure Persil white to look at (he must have greyed out young). He competed internationally on a passport that clearly had a totally different colour to the colour he was - without issue.

 

[honetpot]

I have fallen in to a passport black hole, and I thought by now that was impossible.
Pony 24, and not chipped, has been bought, sold for lots of money in his time, see by a vet at least once a year, and no one, hands up even me spotted although he had a breed passport, and it's been back for updating, that there was no chip number. When I sold him you as a youngster you just needed the passport not the chip.
Vet been out chipped him, filled in the paperwork for a new/duplicate passport, will not put the chip number on the currant passport as they did not do the original. Bred society likes previous owner to sign transfer of ownership, the last owner recorded, this has not been done since 2014, and I think he was sold at least four times since then to my knowledge, so the sellers part could not be filled in.
So I have spoken to the sec, sent a covering letter, vets paperwork, asked for it to be updated, and it's come back with zilch added, all for £20+postage., but they have put his chip number on the register. On paper, it's still not my pony. I feel a bit short changed.
The chip is only the real identifier, because as we know they can change colour a lot, but in practice the chip hardly gets checked even by a vet.

 

[Gamebird]

@honetpot Your vet is wrong! The correct procedure (I'm a vet, checked the legalities, and do this regularly!!!) is to microchip the horse, add an arrow denoting location of chip and barcode sticker to the sketch, signed and dated, and I also add a barcode sticker to the name/breed page (usually the front cover) with the words 'microchip inserted on x date by y vet MRCVS' and sign it. There is also a bhs form that you should fill in and send to your PIO to denote that the horse is now chipped. But you do not need the passport to be sent back or re-issued.

 

[little_critter]

@honetpot Your vet is wrong! The correct procedure (I'm a vet, checked the legalities, and do this regularly!!!) is to microchip the horse, add an arrow denoting location of chip and barcode sticker to the sketch, signed and dated, and I also add a barcode sticker to the name/breed page (usually the front cover) with the words 'microchip inserted on x date by y vet MRCVS' and sign it. There is also a bhs form that you should fill in and send to your PIO to denote that the horse is now chipped. But you do not need the passport to be sent back or re-issued.

Sounds like what I did. I purchased my pony before microchips were required. I got her chipped and vet just updated her existing passport and gave me the paperwork to send off to register the chip.

 

[honetpot]

@honetpot Your vet is wrong! The correct procedure (I'm a vet, checked the legalities, and do this regularly!!!) is to microchip the horse, add an arrow denoting location of chip and barcode sticker to the sketch, signed and dated, and I also add a barcode sticker to the name/breed page (usually the front cover) with the words 'microchip inserted on x date by y vet MRCVS' and sign it. There is also a bhs form that you should fill in and send to your PIO to denote that the horse is now chipped. But you do not need the passport to be sent back or re-issued.

Youngish vet, so probably mainly chips young ones, there can not be many now that have a passport that has not been chipped. The pony is not in my name so should be amended because of the thirty-day rule, but as it's not going anywhere, and I have never been asked for the passport by the knacker man, in real life it's not an issue.
I think because of tightening of the prescribing rules, they are now starting to record the chip number, that's how I realised he wasn't chipped, but he was signed out of the food chain anyway.

 

[EventingMum]

Slightly off topic but I sent three passports to Ireland for change of ownership a year or so ago and they were stuck in Dublin Mail Office for weeks upon weeks. When queried I was told they were being sent back to me as they didn't have the correct customs paperwork however they were eventually delivered. The Passport Agency (HSI) then said two of the three had been tampered with so I needed to apply for new ones (I'm in Scotland too OP), they were all in pristine condition when sent so I find that hard to believe. However, I had the vet out to do new ID charts etc and eventually got the new passports albeit at an increased cost. Subsequently I discovered British Equestrian Federation wiill overstamp and change ownership of Irish passports for a fraction of the price and they are very quick with no posting overseas so I've done that a couple of times now with no problems.