Pasture mix and spooking?

[4April]

My warmblood always gets a bit sharper in winter but recently she seems to be getting worse. I understand turnout, weather etc have a part to play but currently she is fed hay, (swapped from haylage because I thought this was intially the problem) topspec lite, hi fi lite, and half a scoop of pasture mix.

In summer she is alot more relaxed and was fed slow release energy cubes or mix then then the instant mix from spillers which began to fire her up in autumn. So I gave her pasture mix I had left over for my pony.

Recently she has got worse she dramatically tenses and explosively spooks even out at shows which she never did before. I was going to try a calmer but have suddenly seen lots of horror stories about pasture mix. I notice it contains barley and cane molasses. She is worse the more mix I give, I feel.
does anyone have the ingredients of spillers slow release mix? Does that contain barley? I know the cubes dont.

Any pasture mix users or experience similiar to mine?

 

[Queenbee]

My warmblood always gets a bit sharper in winter but recently she seems to be getting worse. I understand turnout, weather etc have a part to play but currently she is fed hay, (swapped from haylage because I thought this was intially the problem) topspec lite, hi fi lite, and half a scoop of pasture mix.

In summer she is alot more relaxed and was fed slow release energy cubes or mix then then the instant mix from spillers which began to fire her up in autumn. So I gave her pasture mix I had left over for my pony.

Recently she has got worse she dramatically tenses and explosively spooks even out at shows which she never did before. I was going to try a calmer but have suddenly seen lots of horror stories about pasture mix. I notice it contains barley and cane molasses. She is worse the more mix I give, I feel.
does anyone have the ingredients of spillers slow release mix? Does that contain barley? I know the cubes dont.

Any pasture mix users or experience similiar to mine?

I suspect every pasture mix user has a similar experience, in short (no offence intended) it's an awful feed. What exactly are you wanting in terms of a feed regime, more energy, slow release energy, weight gain, is your horse a good doer?

I don't like any mixes, cubes are always better, there is no point in feeding hi fi light with something that is designed as an energy feed.

If you want condition and energy but not too much fizz, sugars and molasses use something similar to the following:

Hi if lite or I prefer baileys ultra grass, slightly more sugar in the UG but my boy is a barefooter and does incredibly well on it.
Speedie beet
Linseed meal
Vitamin and mineral supplement/balancer of your choice (for balancers, baileys outshine is a good option for performance and condition)

It works out incredibly cheap to feed the above regime, if there are days when you need a bit more oomph to her, keep some oats in for addition to the feed. However, I've never needed additional calories.

It's a nice, low sugar, high fibre diet with energy and condition derived from oil.

 

[4April]

I suspect every pasture mix user has a similar experience, in short (no offence intended) it's an awful feed. What exactly are you wanting in terms of a feed regime, more energy, slow release energy, weight gain, is your horse a good doer?

I don't like any mixes, cubes are always better, there is no point in feeding hi fi light with something that is designed as an energy feed. The slow release cubes were to try give her some oomph for jumping because she is pretty laid back. I may try speedi beet, I have some for my welsh x. Blimey I sound like a feed stocklist haha,
thanks for the advice

If you want condition and energy but not too much fizz, sugars and molasses use something similar to the following:

Hi if lite or I prefer baileys ultra grass, slightly more sugar in the UG but my boy is a barefooter and does incredibly well on it.
Speedie beet
Linseed meal
Vitamin and mineral supplement/balancer of your choice (for balancers, baileys outshine is a good option for performance and condition)

It works out incredibly cheap to feed the above regime, if there are days when you need a bit more oomph to her, keep some oats in for addition to the feed. However, I've never needed additional calories.

It's a nice, low sugar, high fibre diet with energy and condition derived from oil.

I only feed hi fi lite because I feed it to my welsh x, I tried alfa a but she was very hyper on it. Ive triedoutshine last year but she wasnt burning the calories and gained too much weight :/ shes a good doer and I prefer her leaner for show jumping.

 

[4April]

I gave her slow release energy cubes to give her some oomph in summer as she can be can be quite laid back. I may try speedi beet. Thanks for the advice

 

[Queenbee]

Sorry, I've just checked back with this thread, if Alfa oil made your mare loopy then the chances are she is sensitive to alfalfa. Some are, and it affects them in different ways, my boy Ben can't take it. In addition you say she is a good doer, this does make it tricky as energy and calories are essentially the same thing.

In which case, stick with the hi fi lite, if you want to add a small amount of speedie beet, do, but it shouldn't be necessary, add a supplement to ensure she is getting her full quota of vita and minerals... This may help with the energy, or if you would prefer a balancer to a supplement, baileys lo-cal would be more suitable. If you want additional energy for shows/jumping lessons or competitions, keep a bag of oats in, and give her some the night before, just to up her energy levels for the time you need them upped. That way you have a nice diet for a good doer, but additional energy for when you need it. Obviously, you will know this but there is a strong argument to say the fitter/healthier they are the more energy they will have, but I reckon a balancer or supplement may help give her a daily boost.

 

[Pearlsasinger]

If she is a good doer, does she really need additional feed? If you are sure that she does I would feed grassnuts and grasschaff with a balancer (if you must, I don't see the need). Just because you feed it to your pony, it doesn't follow that your wb needs it.

 

[Queenbee]

PS, just out of interest, why grass nuts 'and' grass chaff, or did you mean 'or'. Just curious?

I must admit, in the summer, I don't always feed a supplement or a balancer, but in the winter I do.