pc events... could my groom warm my horse up

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going to local PC HT soon, can my groom warm my horse up whilst I walk the course, or is this not allowed?
 
We were having this discussion the other day. I think it depends under what rules the competition is run. For example, under BD rules I believe that no one else is allowed to ride your horse before your test. I would have thought that a PC hunter trial is OK - are you competing more than one horse? If so, I can't see it being a problem, but you could always check before to make sure. If it is just to walk the course, then get up earlier or walk it the day before!!!
 
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going to local PC HT soon, can my groom warm my horse up whilst I walk the course, or is this not allowed?

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Warm up your own horse! Otherwise if you do well, everyone will secretly believe that you can't ride to save yourself, and your groom is the talented rider whose work you take credit for.
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if you saw my "groom" you wouldnt think they are a talented rider!

I could go earlier but horse gets stroppy being stood around
 
I dont think they can. I think they can sit on the horse and walk it round, but not to be seen to be schooling it in anyway (so working on a long rein only I think!!)
 
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if you saw my "groom" you wouldnt think they are a talented rider!

I could go earlier but horse gets stroppy being stood around

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Glad I don't work for you...
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I'm thinking the OP is meaning "groom" as in parent/sibling/OH dragged along to help? It's a bit of a tongue in cheek title to give them?

Will be gutted if I'm wrong and some kids are not only lucky enough to have a pony and the means to compete, but also paid grooms!!!
 
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if you saw my "groom" you wouldnt think they are a talented rider!


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Nice. If they're a paid employee, then you should be ashamed. If they're a family member, you should still be ashamed that they are willing to help you, and you behave like a spoilt brat posting nasty things about them.
Whether they're good or terrible riders, you should warm your own damn horse up unless you have a VERY good reason not to!
I suspect that if you behave like this in PC, then people will already have formed an opinion of you.
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If it is just to walk the course, then get up earlier or walk it the day before!!!

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couldn't of said it better myself.!!!
 
Ooh it's like stepping back in time to a Pullein-Thompson novel - I have an image of velvet cap, ringlets, baggy breeches, and Mummy and Daddy in the Daimler ....
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... and the poor children from the council house with the old milk float pony coming up trumps and winning all the prizes in their hand-me-down jodhpurs and holey gloves, having hacked 10 miles to get to the gymkhana
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Ooh it's like stepping back in time to a Pullein-Thompson novel - I have an image of velvet cap, ringlets, baggy breeches, and Mummy and Daddy in the Daimler ....
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... and the poor children from the council house with the old milk float pony coming up trumps and winning all the prizes in their hand-me-down jodhpurs and holey gloves, having hacked 10 miles to get to the gymkhana
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Oohhh I used to love those sorts of books lol !!
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no I am not in PC... its open to everyone. "Groom" is a friend who can ride, but, like me, is by no way talented compared to some people. said friend doesnt often get the chance to ride, so where poss they warm my horse up. If they were up to the standard of taking my horse round the course on their own, i would gladly let them, but they dont do much jumping, so its not very safe (bearing mind horse is a mad tb!)
 
still no reason to talk about them in that way though
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One thing saying that you are not talented but saying it about someone else, who is giving you a hand, is out of order IMO.

Sorry you have hit a nerve
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if that's the case then perhaps you could walk the course the day before, then let your 'groom' have a ride on your horse some other time given that all they will be able to do is walk around on a loose rein..
problem solved..
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I jumped on my daughter's horse to hack it back from the dressage arenas half a mile from the rest of the comp and got thoroughly told off by the DC.. She said she wouldn't eliminate her because we were unaware of the rules, but you can't allow anyone else on. Lungeing yes but ridden, no way..(yet another reason why I loathe the pony club....their rules drove me nuts)
 
blumen hell, think yourself lucky. Some of us can't even get to shows let alone have someone to ride their horse for them. Get up earlier, don't bitch about so called "friends" and don't act like such a spoiled brat!
 
I regularly 'groom' for my mate and although she is a BSJA member and sticks like toffee to a saddle and I cant ride for said she would never post comments like that about me! I'd never groom for her again and then who would hold her evil devil horse for her??
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I think everyone is being a little harsh
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As Wench has said, her 'groom' is someone who likes to help out; what on earth is wrong with acknowledging that said helper/groom would not have the ability to compete the horse? I have 'groomed' for my SJ-trainer in the past; I think as a groom in such instances, you accept that you are there to help, not to further your own competitive career, and I know I would never (and have never) taken ANY offence at anything that may have been said about my lack of ability to ride my trainer's horses at the level he does.
The way I saw it, Wench was asking for advice regarding whether her helper/groom is allowed to ride her horse around for her (as I have done countless times for my trainer); she was NOT, however, intending to start a debate regarding the rights and wrongs of a) having a 'groom', b) delegating riding duties to said 'groom' or c) implying that said 'groom' is perhaps not the best of riders.

Jeez guys, chill out!
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I think people are misinterpreting the OP's comment about her "groom's" riding ability. I took her comment to mean that her groom is an average rider like herself, and therefore wouldn't be mistaken for a pro or trainer schooling the horse to gain an unfair advantage!
 
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