pc events... could my groom warm my horse up

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if you saw my "groom" you wouldnt think they are a talented rider!



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Whether they're good or terrible riders, you should warm your own damn horse up unless you have a VERY good reason not to!
I suspect that if you behave like this in PC, then people will already have formed an opinion of you."


Sorry im with Shilasdair...... I think you sound like an ungrateful spoilt brat
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feel sorry for op... ask a reasonable question, and then get shot down for something totally unrelated. I dont read the posts as being horrible to the groom/friend or whoever. I think the OP was trying to explain themselves, and probably wasnt put in the best ways, and then it has been twisted.

Lighten up? I dont see how you can say someone is a spoilt brat by asking if someone can warm there horse up - maybe the course is far from home, or they cant get as they are working, or cant get childcare. An event local to me doesnt open up the course until 4pm the day before. If i was competing i couldnt get there as I work in eves.
 
I wasnt calling her a spoilt brat because she has someone warming her horse up for her. I was calling her because she obviously has someone who is willing to give up their day to help her out and then she post something like this.........


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[/ QUOTE ] if you saw my "groom" you wouldnt think they are a talented rider!

Im sure if you were her "groom" and found out she'd said this about you i dont think you'd be too impressed
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no I am not in PC... its open to everyone. "Groom" is a friend who can ride, but, like me, is by no way talented compared to some people. said friend doesnt often get the chance to ride, so where poss they warm my horse up. If they were up to the standard of taking my horse round the course on their own, i would gladly let them, but they dont do much jumping, so its not very safe (bearing mind horse is a mad tb!)

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Perhaps the nice thing to do for your friend, particularly if she's a willing and supportive 'groom' is to enter her and your horse for some classes at a more novice level. She'd probably appreciate that a lot more than you saying unkind things about her on a forum...
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I wasnt calling her a spoilt brat because she has someone warming her horse up for her. I was calling her because she obviously has someone who is willing to give up their day to help her out and then she post something like this.........


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[/ QUOTE ] if you saw my "groom" you wouldnt think they are a talented rider!

Im sure if you were her "groom" and found out she'd said this about you i dont think you'd be too impressed
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But the OP was only responding to Shilasdair's comment:

"Otherwise if you do well, everyone will secretly believe that you can't ride to save yourself, and your groom is the talented rider whose work you take credit for.
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and surely she was only trying to make the point that she wasn't putting "a talented rider" on to get an unfair advantage over the other competitors. OK, perhaps not the best wording to use, but I think people are being overly harsh and I can't see any justification for calling her a spoilt brat!
 
oops, Wench looks like that was badly phrased!
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I think that it has been taken rather harshly! You really should have put 'friend' and also that you were non-PC just going to the show!

Ditto Shils again (how many people have said that to you tonight!). Why not just drop down a level and let her have a go?

Everyone's a bit bitchy the last few days....what have I missed!
 
Oh for goodness, sake.

PC don't allow anyone but the rider to ride at PC competitions and forbid any gadgets in the warm up.

Not sure what applies if it's an Open competition.

I think the OP meant her groom wouldn't be classed as a pro rider setting her horse up, and therefore giving her an unfair advantage. I wouldn't care less if it was me she was talking about. It wasn't meant as an insult.

DO NOT, however, FORGET A CURRENT SPURS LETTER FROM YOUR DC
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and they haven't even started on the spellcheck yet!..............

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Do you just wander around threads being self righteous, or is tonight atypical?
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HHOers are so bitter and twisted that the words "PC events" and "groom" used in the same sentence bring them out in hives!
 
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I think people are misinterpreting the OP's comment about her "groom's" riding ability. I took her comment to mean that her groom is an average rider like herself, and therefore wouldn't be mistaken for a pro or trainer schooling the horse to gain an unfair advantage!

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I agree with this.
 
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Ditto Shils again (how many people have said that to you tonight!). Why not just drop down a level and let her have a go?

Everyone's a bit bitchy the last few days....what have I missed!

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From what she has said, her horse is a "mad tb" so probably sensitive, and her friend isn't too skilled, particularly at jumping.

I don't think its unreasonable for someone to not want their sensitive horse ridden around a course of jumps [even a lower course] by somebody not competent or confident enough - it could be unsafe for both horse and rider.
 
Oh God, PC tack checks...
At the last rally I went to the Eventing Manager told me off for not wearing a hairnet for a xc rally. In fact I actually was wearing one..she just looks for reasons to tell anyone off

Don't get me started on my story of the multiple tack checks during a Pony Club area competition last year...
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So basically, even if it is an Open competition, PC are generally very stringent on rules, so technically your groom can't warm up.
 
Slightly off topic here...but if it's an 'Open' competition run by the PC how can an outsider (i.e non-PC member) get a letter from their DC authorising the use of spurs
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I reckon DC's should be 'tortured' by sending them to observe a BSJA warm-up arena for a day...see how the pro's do things lol! I reckon they'd explode before the Newcomers had even walked the course
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I'm with you MizElz on this one, I feel very sorry for Wench! I don't think she meant any thing bad by what she said, it's just one of those sorts of things you say without thinking. Very few people are talented riders, surely we don't all go round in this bubble thinking we're all talented and amazing when we're not
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I for one wouldn't be upset if someone (even my best friend) so that I had no talent. It's the god honest truth
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Giev Wench a break and answer her initial question rather than getting hung up on the fact she has a friend who helps to warm her horse up at shows as a favour.
 
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