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The Original Kao

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i bought my filly last year as a weanling, was told her breeding but as they'd bought the dam when she was near foaling and wasn't even sold as being in foal, she came with no papers.
i was told who her sire was tho and she does look very similar to this chap.
they also advertised her as being by this stallion.
anyway i decided to sell Kao earlier on this year and went about getting a dna test done. it did take me a while to find out where to get it done etc, then i changed my mind about selling her so i put the dna test on hold for a bit.
decided last month to finally get my finger out and get it done. got the results today and she isn't by the sire i was told she was by. they even ran the test twice to make sure
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i'm gutted as i've been ripped off. she's now not even worth half what i've paid for her
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my own stupid fault for trusting my now ex boss i guess.
and i imagine as it's been a year there's not a darn thing i can do about it
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going to try and get some answers from her old owner to see if i can track down whoever owned her when she was put in foal. she came from holland (supposedly, who knows if that's true!) so this could be like looking for a needle in a haystack.
thanks for reading, i feel a bit better for venting
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We had this with the youngster we bought last year- the owner (from a foal to 3 years)passed over all his paperwork but the stud appears to have given her false information as the stallion doesnt appear on any register so the breeding cant be registered.

We console ourselves with the thought that we bought the horse for the superstar he is not the name in a passport. If the horse is a good sort and does well in competition then IMO its breeding is largely irrelevant BUT this applies to geldings as they can never be bred from.

You have a more complicated situation as you have a girl who could become a mum herself so breeding is far more important I am very sorry she isnt by the stallion you thought. Can you do any detective work to try to track down her real dad? Is the dam registered/ freezemarked/ microchipped so you could enquire if a stud had her in? do you know the vets who might have scanned her earlier in pregnancy who might know where she came from?
 

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i passported the filly myself so he is on there but only cause i was daft enough to name him as the sire
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i emailed the seller ( my ex bosses friend who part owned the dam and my filly) and she has just informed me the dam wasn't registered either (i was told she was by ed king hill )
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oh and the fact i told her she's now not worth what i paid for is rubbish going by her!
so i've asked her to buy Kao back for what i paid for her if she's that sure, or find me someone who would honestly buy her from me for that as i wouldn't sell her dishonestly
 

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emailed the dealers yard that i thought her dam came from. here's the reply

Hi,

Her name doesn't ring a bell, but I do remember something about a blue and white horse from Ireland that we bought and it was in foal, but it was in foal when it came to us and we didin't know who the sire was. A lot of the time thay run as youngsters and end up getting covered.

Sorry can't be of any help.


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Did you see on the TV last week someone had bought an infoal Morgan mare, that had a coloured foal? (Morgans can't be coloured).

The mare's new owner was not happy and was pretty p...d off with the previous owner.

This story had a happy ending as someone came and bought the foal anyway - it was lovely. You could see the Morgan breeding and it was beautifully marked as well. Long neck, friendly nature, "look at me" show off.
 

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My mare doesn't have a paper to her name. In fact, I don't even know what her name was before I bought her! Why are people so hung up about owning a papered animal of any species? It doesn't guarantee quality. A friend of mine had a papered warmblood from a fairly local breeder, and frankly the animal was rubbish but she could only see the "status" of having the papers, and not the fact that she paid megabucks for a very ordinary animal.
 

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it's more the fact i was told a load of b*llocks than her actual breeding. plus her re sale value.
as an unregistered yearling out of an unregistered mare with no competiton record she's not worth much compared with if she'd been by the stallion who i was told she was by out of a registered mare.
yesterday she was KWPN now she's breeding unknown.
i wouldn't be bothered if she was a 3 year old plus and under saddle, but she's not.
 
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