CNM
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I've been cubbing this morning and saw alot of pelham type bits with the curb on and a flash, i always thought this way a no no, what are your thoughts?
Pelham and Flash
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proctor
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A pelham and a curb fair enough, but not with a flash too. Thats a bit over the top for my liking!
Cliqmo
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Surely the flash strap would undermine the use of the curb as it would affect its applicaton on the chin groove??
marmalade76
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It is not correct to use any kind of drop noseband with a curb bit, hence they are not allowed with a double in dressage.
PapaFrita
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Sounds like overkill to me
hellybelly6
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Over kill and not something I would do.
Its why the crank noseband was invented so it would be dressage legal with a double bridle.
Its why the crank noseband was invented so it would be dressage legal with a double bridle.
camilla4
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Surely the flash strap would undermine the use of the curb as it would affect its applicaton on the chin groove??
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Yes it does Ali-M!
Surely the flash strap would undermine the use of the curb as it would affect its applicaton on the chin groove??
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Yes it does Ali-M!
piebaldsparkle
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Not technically correct, but if it's the combination that works for the horse/rider then fine.
There is a young rider up my yard with a lovely (but strong cob), she goes XC in a rubber pelham with a leather curb strap and a flash. He is happy in this combination, and they are both SAFE!!!
There is a young rider up my yard with a lovely (but strong cob), she goes XC in a rubber pelham with a leather curb strap and a flash. He is happy in this combination, and they are both SAFE!!!
saddlesore
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I had a VERY strong tbxconnie when I was younger and i rode her in a rubber pelham and flash on the advice of the YM. It worked for us and like PS said, at least we were safe!
Eriskayowner
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I wouldn't normally but when I rode Jazz on the fun ride I put him in a pelham (with a curb chain) and his grakle noseband. He has a history of brake issues and wanted to over bit (rather than underbit and have a battle).
As it was, I didn't need the bottom rein of the pelham so just tied it off and dropped it. He was therefore basically ridden in his hanging cheek snaffle.
As it was, I didn't need the bottom rein of the pelham so just tied it off and dropped it. He was therefore basically ridden in his hanging cheek snaffle.
camilla4
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Surely the flash strap would undermine the use of the curb as it would affect its applicaton on the chin groove??
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Yes it does Ali-M!
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Should have added that you will still get the poll action of the pelham though!
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Surely the flash strap would undermine the use of the curb as it would affect its applicaton on the chin groove??
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Yes it does Ali-M!
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Should have added that you will still get the poll action of the pelham though!
conniegirl
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Surely the flash strap would undermine the use of the curb as it would affect its applicaton on the chin groove??
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Yes it does Ali-M!
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Should have added that you will still get the poll action of the pelham though!
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If you just want the poll action why not go for a non curb bit like a dutch gag? or any form of gag bit.
The whole point of a pelham is that you have the action of the curb chain.
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Surely the flash strap would undermine the use of the curb as it would affect its applicaton on the chin groove??
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Yes it does Ali-M!
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Should have added that you will still get the poll action of the pelham though!
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If you just want the poll action why not go for a non curb bit like a dutch gag? or any form of gag bit.
The whole point of a pelham is that you have the action of the curb chain.
camilla4
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I'd agree with you Connie - was just explaining why some people do find that a pelham with a flash does give them more control than using another bit! I'm not a fan of the combination at all!
Zebedee
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Go & watch county level workers, SJ, or eventing at any level & you will see Pelhams of all descriptions as well as double bridles with grackle & flash type nosebands. Is it correct? No.
Does it seem to work for the horses & riders? Yes.
As PBS says if it makes life safer for the rider & the horse is happy there just isn't a problem
Go & watch county level workers, SJ, or eventing at any level & you will see Pelhams of all descriptions as well as double bridles with grackle & flash type nosebands. Is it correct? No.
Does it seem to work for the horses & riders? Yes.
As PBS says if it makes life safer for the rider & the horse is happy there just isn't a problem
star
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i hunted most of last season in a pelham and grackle. the flash bit of the noseband sits just below where the curb chain comes into action so it doesn't stop it working.
rara007
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Lots of driving horses have a similar arrangement too. I can't see the problem in it....although Mine don't have flashes
or even usually curbs
