:@ people who think they get up the competition ladder with money

[Equestrianforever28]

this annoys me i know someone who has

.there horses schooled for them
. able to have a proper instructor
. able to afford more then 1 horse
.able to afford there own horse box
.able to buy loads of horsey gadgets
.and seems to think they will get up the competition ladder with money and expensive horse


does anybody know of a top eventer,dressage,show jumper who gone up the competition ladder with out lifting a finger.

 

[Batgirl]

They still need to perform at the competition

I don't see it as a bad thing that they have a proper instructor or their own transport. A lot of people get horses schooled for them. Obviously this person has got under your skin though, the proof will be in the pudding as they say!

 

[Elf On A Shelf]

Katie price?!?

Ellen Whittaker ...

 

[wren123]

Have to say I do know someone who has done very well in affilliated competions and yes, is very well off so has bought a very good horse and has unlimited instruction.

But that is life, some people have more money than others, I don't let it worry me!

 

[Equestrianforever28]

They still need to perform at the competition

I don't see it as a bad thing that they have a proper instructor or their own transport. A lot of people get horses schooled for them. Obviously this person has got under your skin though, the proof will be in the pudding as they say!

especially the fact they brag that they have horse and i don't

 

[*hic*]

Oooh I spot a greeneyed monster!

Go on - "It's not fair"

And no, at the top levels there is no subsitute for talent and graft, you simply cannot buy your way to the top without lifting a finger.

btw I've been on both sides of the divide, my daughter's first pony was bought for meat money and was cheaper to run than a Sky subscription and we had an ancient old transit because it was cheaper than buying a trailer and car, our car wouldn't pull a trailer. She and I both had loads of fun and loads of rosettes with him, her lessons came via Pony Club. Due to change in circumstances - I'm sure you'd call it "luck" but actually it's down to hard graft and making major economies- we now have all the things you are so envious of, and we still don't have Sky!

So get your nose to the grindstone and earn yourself the things you want but I'm afraid without talent you still won't get to the top.

 

[Littlelegs]

Unfortunately, lifes unfair. Get over it.

 

[Equestrianforever28]

Oooh I spot a greeneyed monster!

Go on - "It's not fair"

And no, at the top levels there is no subsitute for talent and graft, you simply cannot buy your way to the top without lifting a finger.

btw I've been on both sides of the divide, my daughter's first pony was bought for meat money and was cheaper to run than a Sky subscription and we had an ancient old transit because it was cheaper than buying a trailer and car, our car wouldn't pull a trailer. She and I both had loads of fun and loads of rosettes with him, her lessons came via Pony Club. Due to change in circumstances - I'm sure you'd call it "luck" but actually it's down to hard graft and making major economies- we now have all the things you are so envious of, and we still don't have Sky!

So get your nose to the grindstone and earn yourself the things you want but I'm afraid without talent you still won't get to the top.

i am a good enough rider its that fact i lost my horse to colic before i could take her to competitions which was really heartbreaking for me as she was my bestfriends

 

[Batgirl]

If she is bragging to upset you then shame on her, if she is just happy with her lot in life then you must get over it. There is always people with things we want/cant have or have lost it is part of life and slagging them off just creates bitterness.

 

[Goldenstar]

That's the thing with horses you still have to ride them
I don't have other people ride my horses( except my grooms to exercise them)
But I can go to any trainer I want ( I have been with my main trainer ten years now)
I have more and one horse
I have a horsebox
Love buying tack have loads
Was never that competitive TBH was always about the horses for me.( distant sounds of people who know the real me spitting coffee on their computers and iPhones )
But I have always been aware that certain people resent me it used to bother me now it doesn't it's just luck that's all I am lucky might not be for ever but while I am I am not letting anything stop me enjoying it.

 

[AshTay]

That's the thing with horses you still have to ride them
I don't have other people ride my horses( except my grooms to exercise them)
But I can go to any trainer I want ( I have been with my main trainer ten years now)
I have more and one horse
I have a horsebox
Love buying tack have loads
Was never that competitive TBH was always about the horses for me.( distant sounds of people who know the real me spitting coffee on their computers and iPhones )
But I have always been aware that certain people resent me it used to bother me now it doesn't it's just luck that's all I am lucky might not be for ever but while I am I am not letting anything stop me enjoying it.

Good for you! The only time people with lots of money annoy me is when they don't appreciate or enjoy it!! I'm quite happy to take it off their hands if it's making them miserable.....

 

[*hic*]

i am a good enough rider its that fact i lost my horse to colic before i could take her to competitions which was really heartbreaking for me as she was my bestfriends

Whilst that is sad it is a different matter from what other people have. My reaction to you would be very different had you said "How can I get to the top, I've just lost my lovely horse to colic". It's not fair that you lost your horse to colic but again, it happens. So if you want to get to the top you have to put on the top people's attitude and get yourself a replacement and/or get yourself some rides rather than worrying about what other people have. If you are as good a rider as you think there will be people looking for riders.

 

[LJN]

I have a 'proper' instructor, and I have my horse schooled for me. Because I have a proper instructor and my horse is schooled by a professional every other week, I don't need to buy pricey gadgets. A flashy horsebox is not going to win you any prizes - I hitch a lift to events. I'm sorry that you lost your horse, but I hardly see that as your friends fault, I doubt she has any clue that you feel that she is 'rubbing it in'.

I work very, very hard to be the best rider that I can be and if anyone at a competition or at my yard had the nerve to tell me that I didn't deserve to be there (no one would - we don't win that much ) I would be pretty cross.

 

[CatStew]

It's very easy to get envious of other people for having talented horses, a nice shiny lorry, a string of riders/trainers/grooms working for them, expensive tack etc. BUT the money to fund all this has to have come from somewhere and 9 times out of 10 it will be down to hard graft. The rider has to be just as talented and hard working as the horse.

 

[mandwhy]

Some people may get more of a leg up into competition than others, but that's life, and its not restricted to the horse world either!

There is always a chance that with a lot of hard work and dedication and a bit of money (and/or a horsey job) you can still beat them. I think its often more a case of time and practise which most of us don't have time to commit to.

 

[cyberhorse]

I worked at a yard as a teenager to afford my lessons, my parents could not afford to buy me a horse or even any lessons, and I did not compete. I grafted hard and rode anything offered - usually the ones nobody else wanted to ride or were scared to. I worked hard at school and then uni to get into a profession which pays fairly well.

I now have two horses, a horsebox, a professional showjumping trainer and I am at a good competition yard. I get very, very, fed up of people assuming I have it on a plate and was handed it, I worked very hard to put myself in this position. I had a lot of student debt to pay off and only got my first horse at 30. I go to shows on a very good horse, who is yes far beyond what I need, but I felt this was a good investment for him to teach me the ringcraft and OK get me the odd result to boost my confidence. Why should I feel guilty for it? I don't rub other peoples noses in it and I put the hours in. I also doubt I would be doing as well if I had not thrown every spare penny I had at it.

What you see is not always the whole story and I doubt they are deliberately trying to make you feel bad. If you had the money wouldn't you do it too?

 

[annaellie]

Get over yourself, how many on here have lost their precious horses to something or other. I lost my 2 competition horses to colic like symptoms.
One was a horse that unless I win the lottery I wouldn't be able to afford one with such talent again.

We bought him cheap as his behaviour was dangerous, yes I had him schooled and lessons and yes I had the best of everything for him. How my mother worked her ar@e off in two and three jobs while I was a wp to afford it.
Do I get upset now when I see people on there fab horses no I think how lucky they are and think how lucky I was to have such amazing horses in my life even if it ended the way it did

 

[el_Snowflakes]

Dont really care to be honest!

 

[Spring Feather]

I worked at a yard as a teenager to afford my lessons, my parents could not afford to buy me a horse or even any lessons, and I did not compete. I grafted hard and rode anything offered - usually the ones nobody else wanted to ride or were scared to. I worked hard at school and then uni to get into a profession which pays fairly well.

I now have two horses, a horsebox, a professional showjumping trainer and I am at a good competition yard. I get very, very, fed up of people assuming I have it on a plate and was handed it, I worked very hard to put myself in this position. I had a lot of student debt to pay off and only got my first horse at 30. I go to shows on a very good horse, who is yes far beyond what I need, but I felt this was a good investment for him to teach me the ringcraft and OK get me the odd result to boost my confidence. Why should I feel guilty for it? I don't rub other peoples noses in it and I put the hours in. I also doubt I would be doing as well if I had not thrown every spare penny I had at it.

What you see is not always the whole story and I doubt they are deliberately trying to make you feel bad. If you had the money wouldn't you do it too?

You shouldn't EVER feel guilty for what you have I certainly don't! I feel very happy that I have such a charmed lifestyle.

 

[melbiswas]

This is partly why I have told my daughters to work hard at school so that they will get jobs that will enable them to afford horses comfortably rather than work with horses.

 

[Elf On A Shelf]

Ellen Whitaker ??? Er no, her tutor (was) her dad, she schools her own horses, most of her horses are owned by others and not by the family, they have money I'm sure but at the end of the day they are a farming family and certainly do not have the bottomless pit that many 'rich' riders do.

But Katie Price ......... yes defo !!

Ellen Whitaker is a spoilt brat who is now having to learn the hard way

 

[Equilibrium Ireland]

You can spend your time whinging about what you don't have or spend time working to change the situation.

Of course you absolutely need talent to ride at top level anything. Yes, some people are in a position in which they don't have to worry about money and can have the best of everything which in turn means the talent can can get used. But make no mistake, nobody at that level isn't working hard money or not. I mean not for nothing, but if I won Euromillions tonight, I'm not going to suddenly gain talent I haven't got even I buy the best horses and employ the best trainers. Not having money is an excuse people like to use if they aren't on the Olympic team. Fortunately when you get older you realise it ain't just about the money!

Life sucks, there's more downs than ups, try and enjoy what you have instead of hating what others have that you don't. I know you lost your horse to colic. It's not easy and many of us lose horses tragically. Those are the risks I'm afraid. Crack on or spend your life being miserable.

Terri

 

[melbiswas]

You can spend your time whinging about what you don't have or spend time working to change the situation.

Of course you absolutely need talent to ride at top level anything. Yes, some people are in a position in which they don't have to worry about money and can have the best of everything which in turn means the talent can can get used. But make no mistake, nobody at that level isn't working hard money or not. I mean not for nothing, but if I won Euromillions tonight, I'm not going to suddenly gain talent I haven't got even I buy the best horses and employ the best trainers. Not having money is an excuse people like to use if they aren't on the Olympic team. Fortunately when you get older you realise it ain't just about the money!

Life sucks, there's more downs than ups, try and enjoy what you have instead of hating what others have that you don't. I know you lost your horse to colic. It's not easy and many of us lose horses tragically. Those are the risks I'm afraid. Crack on or spend your life being miserable.

Terri

So wish this forum had a "LIKE" button !

 

[Firewell]

Tbh it does take money to compete, even at a low level but you can get there with talent and hard work as well.
I think there is a culture in this country of wanting everything for nothing, it is becoming more socialist, people see celebritys getting rich just by going on reality TV and everyone wants to sit on their arse yet have everything they want. In reality it takes a lot of hard work to get anywhere with anything.
If you want the nice horse and the competitions and the horsebox then unfortunatly you need to earn the money or you need to go and be a working pupil and put in the hard work, the graft and just hope you are talented enough....
Or marry a rich man .

 

[blood_magik]

Just because they have money doesn't mean they don't work at it

I'm lucky enough to have two great horses, a great trainer and transport - it doesn't mean that I don't have to work hard to get it right.

 

[cyberhorse]

So wish this forum had a "LIKE" button !

So do I... Equilibrium Ireland you sum up my attitude to what spins in my head when people moan and actually have more than they appreciate. Life is not fair, you have to dust yourself off and start again any way you can. That is what commitment is and the people at the top that I know have this in spades. Perhaps why they make it to the top?

I am not at all underestimating how hard it is when you loose any animal, especially a horse, but you are the only one with the ability to get over the hurdles in any walk of life and reach your goals. I still strongly believe talent and attitude goes a very long way in the equine world.

 

[Goldenstar]

A very well known trainer once told me to succeed with horses you need money, talent and dedication you can get away with two of the three but if you have all three that's best.
I think thats it in a nut shell.

 

[jrp204]

Aren't they lucky then.

 

[Mithras]

My particular bugbear is buying a Grade A in its prime thats been jumping 1.35s and then complaining that your local show centre doesn't have any classes for it and forcing it to run its Newcomers classes as combined 1.10 Opens...

Then bitching about the style that said Newcomers horses warm up and go round in...

I've actually made an official complaint to BS about it.

 

[NooNoo59]

There are real horsey people who would do it money or no, or those that only do it because they have the best of everything. I know of someone who has it all but is now selling it all because of finance, and giving up. Surely if you love horses it does not matter if you have the best of everything or a horse and a field, it all comes down to being with the horses and i for one would fight tooth and nail not to have that ever taken away from me.