Perro de Presa Canario

Red star kennels in the USA are to me a prime example of the trainability and versatility of this breed - and they use positive reward based training to accomplish what they want from the dogs. They have a website and have uploaded numerous videos on YouTube.
Some of their breeding isn't my type visually but I cannot fault the temperament

Kim
 
kimberleigh said:
Thanks Amy B for that link - I must say that the bloke comes across as a bit of a div and the dogs aren't my type of presa visually!
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I dont like the imported ones purely because thier ears are cropped, looks crap. Thats the only different I pick up as the untrained eye.
 
That guy says in the comments:

"As a company we don't want our dogs to bite, the dogs are there as a deterrent. Someone asked why do I not use old fashioned GSD. They are great for sport they just have a lot of attributes I don't need, like tracking, prey drive, agility to jump obstacles."

A dog that can't won't bite, can't follow a scent, does not want to chase and cannot climb over an obstacle, would not be much of a deterrent, if I was a criminal!
But suppose should put people's minds at rest who think you are after a manstopper :p
 
CaveCanem haha very good point, though hence why I said the guy sounded a bit of a div - surely any criminal reading that would think 'woohoo, sure his guard dogs look tough but since they are in actual fact about as deterring as a stuffed toy we ought to go rob anywhere with a presa!'

Which is a positive aspect, for those who expect the presa to be a slavering devil dog! But in actual fact is not a true representation of the breed's talent/temperament/ability! The most important thing to have in any dog (especially large powerful dogs) is drive - without drive training becomes a million times more difficult

Kim
 
The dogs were used for herding and sheepdog duties in their native island, and are a very ancient and endangered breed of dog in their true form. They are not a banned breed, but very quickly will be given the type of person now breeding them and the response from some people who have replied to this thread. My sister's dog hasnt put a foot wrong in 6 years, and I will use the addage of the owner not the dog again and again.
 
Thanks for that post orionstar - is good to see someone who knows the dog before judging!
Did she import or was he born here? (am assuming you're in the UK!)

Kim
 
Hi Kim,

I can't help you with your search but I just wanted to give you a heads up in case you weren't aware that a lot of insurers won't cover a Presa.

I've got a 4month old Russian Black Terrier, I didn't check before I bought him but luckily I had no problems insuring him. I did notice a lot of companies named the Presa as an excluded breed though.

I wish you all the luck in finding your ideal companion, to have researched the breed extensively and to be so patient in finding the right breeder/puppy is commendable, and just what this sort of dog needs in an owner.
If only more people could do this in their search for puppies, whatever the breed!

All the best,
Rach
 
The presa canario is a fantastic breed honest loyal strong minded breed with a great powerfull build i would recomend this breed to anyone who either requires a deterent or loyal pet i own a 5 year old male imported from brazil truly outstanding breed i also know of uk breeders if any information is required
 
OP have you considered a Boer Boel? Definitely legal and bred in the UK, similar stamp of dog to look at. I've met several in SA and they are gorgeous looking dogs, and the ines that love as family pets and are bred as such are lovely natured! I would have one myself but the are a little too big to fit into my life at the moment! I wouldn't cross one kept as a guard dog in their native SA but nor would I try my luck with a rottie/GSD/ridgeback kept specifically as a guard dog, far more common out there than here!
 
I knew a chap in Lima who kept these dogs for fighting. They were impeccably well bred, and he imported them from Spain and Brazil mainly, before breeding the subsequent generations himself. Not the best advert for the breed though, as they were, from his accounts, very successful fighting dogs. Indeed they always came home, without serious injury (bearing in mind the loser normally either dies in the ring or is put down shortly after). He was a lovely neighbour but a terrible human being!

Have you tried Rogue Kennels? They seem to be one of the few places that breed the dogs as pets rather than guard dogs :) Same goes for Zeus.
 
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Did you receive my pm Paul?

Ecrozier the boerboel is a beautiful breed but just slightly too big for where I am currently - would need a bigger house lol! Height wise they aren't massively larger than press's but there is a very big weight difference.

Helenalbert I have tried Rogue Kennels but have had no response :/ hadn't heard of Zeus Kennels but have had a look at their website and aside from not being sure whereabouts they are I'm not at all keen on the types of dog shown!
 
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