Personality 180 - thoughts?

Kitei

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For the past few months, Obie has undergone a complete 180 in terms of personality, and I'm struggling to figure out what exactly his problem is.

Don't get me wrong, he has always had quirks. He's and still fairly young, but he's always been incredibly sensible on the ground, easy to catch and handle, and I've never had a problem with the farrier, etc. Even ridden, he's always been very polite about when things aren't right, for which I'm very grateful.

In the past 4/5 months, he seems to have done a complete U-turn. He's developed what appears to be severe separation anxiety from his field neighbours, and is a danger to himself if I try to stable him (for the farrier). He's started weaving out of nowhere, though he appears to have stopped cribbing. Initially I thought this might be due to the stable location, as he couldn't see much that went on, so requested a new one and he's now in the middle of two horses he is familiar with, overlooking the ménage and in sight of another stable block, as well as his hacking buddies in a field next to it.

He's become impossible for the people handling him to catch. He's in a 2 acre field and just runs rings around them when they try. Although I did visit him last weekend and he was very pleased to see me, and after a little bit of thought, was rather content to be brought onto the yard, and was well behaved for me whilst I was there. However, I do wonder if this is because he's not seen me in 3 months, and it was a bit of a novelty for him.

He's not on any feed currently, and hasn't been since early spring. He's on good grass and has held his weight well. He's currently not being ridden, as I've moved away, but was doing 4/5x hourly sessions or hacking a week before I left. Ridden work was stopped when I came off him and was unable to ride for 3 weeks and then of course, I had to move. It doesn't quite coincide with his behaviour change as what I can now see as signs did start showing before I left - as I said, I thought his stable location was his biggest problem, and I'd thought his developing spookiness out hacking was spring grass - and it still could be.

Then when the farrier arrived last Monday, I've been told he was absolutely dreadful. He just had a trim as I've had his shoes taken off for winter (he doesn't need them to eat grass), and as I previously said, I've never had a problem with him before. In fact, he's fascinated in our farrier, and normally the only difficulty is keeping him balanced because he's staring lovingly into the back of his head. Farrier was great about it, as he's used to tricky horses and is tall enough and strong enough to practically pick Obie up, but I'm rather horrified that he played up like he did.

I'm just having a bit of trouble figuring out what might be the issue here. He's familiar with his handlers and hasn't been a problem with them before, and they're not novices. This is the first and only yard he's displayed this behaviour at, including both previous homes that I know of. So I guess I'm looking for ideas for where to start, really. I'm quite happy to book vet appointments if need be, but would appreciate an idea of where to start as I can't get there very often (and apparently can't guarantee he'll be caught, otherwise) so time needs to be used productively.

He will be moved within the next month or so to the yard with the others on grass livery. I'm holding off moving him here until I hear about OH's job offer, as we may move again, and I think he'll probably be happier out with them, sharing a routine and with people I trust to keep a good eye on him. Unfortunately I wasn't aware quite how bad his behaviour had degraded as it was rather downplayed to me - not sure if why, entirely, but that's the case.
 
It sounds to me as if he is bored senseless, he is not doing any work having previously been in regular work, he is in a field on his own so no real interaction with others and the handlers have let him do pretty much as he wants, the change may have started before he was left due to having good spring grass and generally feeling well, having then had nothing to do other than to eat he has just gone a bit feral, he will probably come to hand with some routine and discipline but it is down to you really as the people dealing with him at the moment are possibly less experienced than you think if they have not been able to prevent it getting to this stage.

I think a few weeks turned out with others will really help then once you have a settled place for him get him back into routine and be firm with him so he remembers his manners from day 1, if he does not come back to how he was then maybe think about getting a vet in but I think this seems to be a simple case of no work, bad handling and a horse taking charge of the situation, not a veterinary issue.
 
if the problem started when his workload was lessened, then i'd imagine that's your answer there. Some horses just need do a lot of work to keep them ticking and he sounds like that type.
 
If he is kept on his own, seems to me that is the problem.
I would feed him a full on dose of feedmark steady up with a bit of wet to damp Safe and Sound or Fast Fibre mash.
Maybe ask that the most experienced handler does a bit of in hand work with him, and never anyone who is scared of him, best that the same person handles him,
 
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My traditional cob is off work again, growing and wonky yet again. Like you guy he is usually easy to handle, cheeky but sane to ride. I can not ride because his hind legs have gone sticky, I've had the vet and I have been told to leave him for a bit to see if he comes right. The other day he came up behind me reared and then tried to grab my shoulder with his teeth. This is totally out of character, I can only assume the mind is willing although the body isn't. I increased the size of his field, I am giving him some time in the same field as my other horse( he is a git and tries to be the boss, so they are usually separated) I am also doing some ground work with him and he seems happier.
 
I agree with the above and think that company in the field and a job will improve things - is it possible for him to be turned out in company at the yard he's at now? Would they exercise him for you if you paid? My horse starts to forget his manners if he has a few days off as well, think it's quite a common problem.
 
TBH OP I'd be moving him from that yard to 24/7 turnout as soon as I possibly could.

They haven't told you about the issues, also from what you have said they haven't exactly dealt with anything either - it seems as if they've just basically let him get away with things. And you are paying them for that 'privilege'? The fact that he was OK (after a while) to be caught and brought in by you but is running rings round them speaks volumes to me.

As you say he is still quite young - youngsters IME need consistent handling - getting the same reactions and messages from everyone who handles them. To me it sounds like this hasn't happened which will have played a huge part in his behaviour. For me it would be better him being in a field not being handled by anyone than being sent backwards by the people currently handling him (badly)
 
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