PETE DOHERTY JAILED

There is a big difference between a hospital administering opioid analgesics and someone taking heroin as a "recreational" drug. While heroin (and related compounds) do have a therapeutic effect they are also very easily misused. However, I have never heard of any hospital giving patients crack cocaine...
 
I know OH had cocaine in hospital for a nasal problem BUT it was under lock and key and was bought to him by 2 doctors and a security guard.
There is a HUGE difference in hospital drugs and illegal drugs the clue being the fact that the word ILLEGAL is used!
Why shouldnt he go to prison???
He broke the law-more than once.
 
[ QUOTE ]
I am not ashamed to say I was quite wild when I was younger (I was 17 in 1977 and a punk) experimented with lots of stuff and still managed to hold down a full time job and not get arrested (and my Mum never realised
grin.gif
). Some people are weak and Pete Doherty has had plenty of help with rehab but chose not to take it.

[/ QUOTE ]

I would agree, Pete Doherty being famous has access to far better rehab options than mere mortals i'm sure... yet according to the media (which i always take with a large pinch of salt anyway) has been a right smack head for a long time now and is has been given loads of chances to clean his act up, and been given loads of chances to escape prison but he's such a monghead he couldn't even do that!!
I'm not particularly anti drugs, i have done a few bits and bobs, people may see me as hypercritical but i have very different views on occasional recreational users and addicts, i think heroin is a dirty drug and a fools game, just as he is showing. I cant imagine all the people he is hurting in his life. His band are saints for sticking by him through all this crap!!
 
Drugs are drugs, the legalities are irrelevant. If you are anti-drugs and willing to be administered these same drugs 'legally' you are being hypocritical. You can pick and choose when it's ok to have them? I don't think so.

Drugs kill? Drugs ruin your life? Pete D is alive and functioning, even being successful this thing isn't as simple as some of you are willing to believe it is.
Lots of 'legal' drugs kill. Cigarettes alone kill more people than crack, heroin and cocaine combined, and don't even get me started on alcohol that's ruined lots of people lives.

I feel sorry for anyone addicted to drugs, it's a shame, it really is, but society drives this whole vicious circle of crime related problems by not properly addressing the real issues...

A panel of surgeons were once asked who they'd prefer to be operated on by, a coke addict, an alcoholic or a heroin addict, interestingly they all chose the heroin addict.

For those of you too dim to get it, it's your collective glee at Mr Doherty's situation is what I'm taking exception too here.

You should all start a petition with The Mail for the reinstatement of birching and public floggings.
 
[ QUOTE ]


You should all start a petition with The Mail for the reinstatement of birching and public floggings.

[/ QUOTE ]

What an excellent idea..now wy didn't I think of that??
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


You should all start a petition with The Mail for the reinstatement of birching and public floggings.

[/ QUOTE ]

What an excellent idea..now wy didn't I think of that??

[/ QUOTE ]

I can only assume that, like so many people, you prefer being told what to think rather than thinking for yourself?

''What is a crime? What is punishment? It seems to vary from time to time and place to place. What's legal today is suddenly illegal tomorrow because society says it's so, and what's illegal yesterday is suddenly legal because everybody's doin' it, and you can't put everybody in jail. I'm not saying this is right or wrong. I'm just saying that's the way it is.'' Billy Hayes convicted smuggler.

Homosexuality was illegal in Britain until 1967...
 
[ QUOTE ]


Homosexuality was illegal in Britain until 1967...

[/ QUOTE ]

blimey, is it???

who allowed that then????
 
[ QUOTE ]
Drugs are drugs, the legalities are irrelevant. If you are anti-drugs and willing to be administered these same drugs 'legally' you are being hypocritical. You can pick and choose when it's ok to have them? I don't think so.

[ QUOTE ]


Are you mad?
Of course there are times when drugs should be lawfully administered in hospitals or by prescription. You are clearly somebody who has never had major surgery or a serious injury; try recovering in the first 24 hours after surgery with just a paracetamol and let me know how you get on. I was only on morphine for 1 day, but boy it really helped, and then diazepam for nerve pain when the discs in my neck blew so that I could actually get some sleep at night after 2 weeks of no sleep at all.

There is a place for drugs - it is legal, supervised and necessary - not illegal, dangerous and self indulgent.
 
You need to actually read posts before you start clucking mother hen - it's getting tiresome now, so I'll try and sum it up in a nutshell.

IMO. Drugs are drugs - legal or illegal is irrelevant.

If a Parkinsons suffers condition is helped by using marijuana they are as guilty in your eyes as a recreational user just because the drug is illegal?
 
I'm sorry I was with you there, until you started on your petty name calling. Pete Doherty's parents are family friends of my parents. I do beleive that he is a talented song writer, I also beleive that he is not above the law. If your average Joe had as many drugs offences as he then they too would be facing jail. I only hope that this spate in jail is the wake up call he needs to sort out his life. And my parents friends no longer have the turmoil of wondering if their son will end his days early. Oh and just for the record my Dad is a daily mail reader ( with an MBE) so what does that make him. Is he suddenly less of a person.
mad.gif
 
[ QUOTE ]
He's a rock star! It's his job! What self respecting rock star isn't rock and roll? How many of you Daily Mail readers enjoy the Rolling Stones? Keith doesn't do drugs?

Jimmy Hendrix, anyone?

[/ QUOTE ]
Died age 27
[ QUOTE ]
Jim Morrison, anyone?

[/ QUOTE ]
Died age 27
[ QUOTE ]
Janis Joplin, anyone?

[/ QUOTE ]
Died age 27 (I'm not making this up, they really were all 27)
[ QUOTE ]
Oh and wait for it... Edith Piaf?

[/ QUOTE ]
Died age 47

So, with the exceptions of Keith, who seems to be a law unto himself in regards to drugs, all the people you mentioned died young.
crazy.gif

Actually, there are plenty of rock stars that don't do drugs and never have done, Bruce Dickinson, Alice Cooper, to name just a couple. Also, the vast majority of rock stars who did drugs and managed to survive, like Aerosmith, Guns'n'Roses, Scott Weiland, Mettalica, Nick Cave etc. got clean before it was too late.
PD is 29 now, if he doesn't get his life sorted, who knows if he'll see 30. Is that what you want to happen?
crazy.gif

I don't think anyone is actually glad that he's in prison, but after the number of chances and reprieves the legal system has given him, maybe a prison sentence will finally show him that, no matter how rich or famous you are, you are NOT above the law, and give him the wakeup call he needs.
crazy.gif

I really don't care much about him personally, I think Babyshambles suck, but I do feel sorry for his family and friends who have to watch him destroy his life.
As for your comment about being a role model, he is famous, therefore he has people who look up to him, which makes him a role model (a bad one), whether he wants to be or not.
crazy.gif
 
It seems to me lots of people here are glad he's in prison - have a read back through the thread.

Horse riding is dangerous and self indulgent - I'm lucky not to have been killed twice and I'm sure my riding is a constant worry for my husband.
Are the times I've spent in hospital a drain on taxpayers money, is the time I've had off work a loss to the country's economics? Of course they are. Should horse riding be outlawed?

It's about personal freedom, grown-ups have a right to personal freedom, to live their lives however they choose - within or outside of the law and they have to be prepared to take the consequences. It seems to me, he is.
With regards to him being a role model, famous doesn't come into it.
Only clean living, honest, good people should be famous? That's ridiculous. Only clean living, honest, good people should be role models, that kind of makes more sense.

debdeb.

I don't know your dad, I'm sure he's a very nice guy and thrilled to have earned an MBE. I don't believe him being a Daily mail reader makes him less of a person, I just doubt I'd agree with his standpoint on many social and political issues. My mum reads the Daily Mail, bless her. I can choose my friends and all that!
 
[ QUOTE ]
It's about personal freedom, grown-ups have a right to personal freedom, to live their lives however they choose - within or outside of the law and they have to be prepared to take the consequences. It seems to me, he is.

[/ QUOTE ]
Would you be saying the same thing if he killed someone, either because he chose to, or because he caused an accident of some kind due to choosing to be under the influence of drugs, even if he was prepared to take the consequences?
crazy.gif

[ QUOTE ]
With regards to him being a role model, famous doesn't come into it.
Only clean living, honest, good people should be famous? That's ridiculous. Only clean living, honest, good people should be role models, that kind of makes more sense.

[/ QUOTE ]
Yes, that would make more sense, but people don't choose to be role models, they are chosen as role models by the people who admire them. He did however choose to become famous by pursuing a music career. So fame does come into it, as, if he wasn't famous, not many people would know about him, so he wouldn't be a role model, or at least not for anywhere near as many people.
 
Of course.

Some people choose to be killers and rapists and paedophiles and terrorists everyday. You can't stop people making choices good or bad.

Thing here is he hasn't killed anyone has he. He's been doing it to himself, the only collateral damage is due to society's stance on drugs being illegal which compounds the side issues associated with any illegal trade.
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying we shouldn't have laws, I'm a law abiding citizen, but not all laws are actually protecting society as a whole. Gay men shouldn't have been having sex up until 1967?

"They are chosen by people who admire them' Like i said you can't stop people making bad choices and I'm sorry but that is their fault, not his. He chose to be a musician - a consequence of which was he became famous it doesn't and shouldn't make him a role model.

Bill Hicks once said, "Same old drug story on the news, young man on acid jumped out of a building because he thought he could fly - that a tragedy. What a dick. Acid didn't kill him, being a moron killed him. If he thought he could fly why didn't he take off the ground and check it out first. You don't see ducks taking up-escalators to fly south..."
 
This goes back to what I've been saying about society not addressing the real issues surrounding drugs, drug taking and drugs being illegal.

Sooner or later society has to face the fact that drugs being illegal isn't actually stopping people taking drugs...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top