skydancer
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fired, pinfired and hobdayed mean?
pick your brains what is...
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skydancer
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anyone?
Happy Hunter
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Hobday - For horses with wind problems
What treatment is available?
Horses used for hacking or less strenuous jobs can cope without treatment. It is important to keep their respiratory tract healthy from infections and allergies with good management (i.e. low dust, good ventilation, proper vaccination regime etc.).
In moderately severe cases, it may help to do a Hobday operation in which a piece of laryngeal tissue (laryngeal saccule) is surgically removed to encourage a scar to form to tighten the larynx in a more open position. In more severe cases a tie-back operation is often recommended. This more elaborate operation places sutures in the paralysed side to pull and hold it open. The Hobday operation is often performed at the same time so that the resulting scar also helps to hold the paralysed side open, even if the sutures fail to retain their strength over time. In horses where a tie back has failed or is not an option for other reasons, a brass or plastic tracheotomy tube may be inserted into the windpipe to allow air to bypass the larynx completely. The tracheotomy tube and wound must be carefully managed to prevent infection and secondary complications and this method is very invasive and many people understandably find it unacceptable for aesthetic reasons.
Pin firing is the treatment of an injury to a horse's leg, by burning, freezing, or dousing it with acid or caustic chemicals. This is supposed to induce a counter-irritation and speed and/or improve healing. This treatment is used more often on racehorses than on other performance horses. It is sometimes used in the treatment of bucked shins or splint, curb, or chronic bowed tendons.[1] There was also the theory that it would "toughen" the leg of the horse. This treatment is prevalent in equine veterinary books published in the early 20th century; however many present-day veterinarians and horse owners consider it barbaric and a cruel form of treatment.[2] It is not generally taught in veterinary schools today.[1]
What treatment is available?
Horses used for hacking or less strenuous jobs can cope without treatment. It is important to keep their respiratory tract healthy from infections and allergies with good management (i.e. low dust, good ventilation, proper vaccination regime etc.).
In moderately severe cases, it may help to do a Hobday operation in which a piece of laryngeal tissue (laryngeal saccule) is surgically removed to encourage a scar to form to tighten the larynx in a more open position. In more severe cases a tie-back operation is often recommended. This more elaborate operation places sutures in the paralysed side to pull and hold it open. The Hobday operation is often performed at the same time so that the resulting scar also helps to hold the paralysed side open, even if the sutures fail to retain their strength over time. In horses where a tie back has failed or is not an option for other reasons, a brass or plastic tracheotomy tube may be inserted into the windpipe to allow air to bypass the larynx completely. The tracheotomy tube and wound must be carefully managed to prevent infection and secondary complications and this method is very invasive and many people understandably find it unacceptable for aesthetic reasons.
Pin firing is the treatment of an injury to a horse's leg, by burning, freezing, or dousing it with acid or caustic chemicals. This is supposed to induce a counter-irritation and speed and/or improve healing. This treatment is used more often on racehorses than on other performance horses. It is sometimes used in the treatment of bucked shins or splint, curb, or chronic bowed tendons.[1] There was also the theory that it would "toughen" the leg of the horse. This treatment is prevalent in equine veterinary books published in the early 20th century; however many present-day veterinarians and horse owners consider it barbaric and a cruel form of treatment.[2] It is not generally taught in veterinary schools today.[1]
Izzwizz
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Pinfired and fired are terms relating to the old fashioned methods of treating injured tendons. Hobdayed - Im not sure not sure on this one. Google it and see what comes up.
skydancer
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cheers guys -appreciate your input 
Lobelia_Overhill
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fired, pinfired and hobdayed mean?
fired and pinfired are methods of "repairing" damaged tendons by 'soldering' them (pretty sure neither method was very effective
Hobdayed mean the horse has had an operation on it's throat to help with it's breathing. They literally cut a hole in the front of the horse's neck and insert a tube into it's windpipe. it would sever the horse's vocal chords, and they were at high risk of drowning. Don't see it these days, hopefully it's gone out of fashion and people are using those nasal strip things instead!
Elf On A Shelf
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Hobdaying still goes on by the hundreds in racing. It is the most effective wind op you can have done. Most will have a hobday and a tie back done to open up the airways to give air a clean run through. Hobdaying does indeed sever the vocal chords to an extent, a horse that has had this done can no longer neigh or whinney properly, it's more of a wheezey noise - very effective if you have a horse with a high pitched neigh that goes straight through your skull every time they see a food bucket!
Firing of any description leaves scars on the horses legs. Pin Firing leaves big white dots on the shin bone or on the sides of the tendon depending upon where they were fired. Bar Firing leaves straight lines round the tendon. The idea behind Firing is to turn the skin tight with scaring so it can't stretch. If the skin can't stretch then in theory the tendon can't stretch enough to do and damage. Some horses are Fired as a precaution against injury, some are done after injury to speed up the healing - it doesn't speed it up at all by the way, it still takes a year for the tendon to heal properly.
Firing is illeagal in Britain but you can still get your horse Fired in Southern Ireland.
Firing of any description leaves scars on the horses legs. Pin Firing leaves big white dots on the shin bone or on the sides of the tendon depending upon where they were fired. Bar Firing leaves straight lines round the tendon. The idea behind Firing is to turn the skin tight with scaring so it can't stretch. If the skin can't stretch then in theory the tendon can't stretch enough to do and damage. Some horses are Fired as a precaution against injury, some are done after injury to speed up the healing - it doesn't speed it up at all by the way, it still takes a year for the tendon to heal properly.
Firing is illeagal in Britain but you can still get your horse Fired in Southern Ireland.
skydancer
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many thanx guys
jodie3
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[QUOTE=EKW;firing is illeagal in Britain but you can still get your horse Fired in Southern Ireland.[/QUOTE
I thought (and hoped!) it was now illegal. As an older member on here I can remember years ago seeing TBs (presumably out of racing) with the telltale, distinctive marks on their lower legs.
Didn't they used to say it was the years field rest that used to do them more good than the actual firing?
Can't remember when I last saw a horse who had been fired.
I thought (and hoped!) it was now illegal. As an older member on here I can remember years ago seeing TBs (presumably out of racing) with the telltale, distinctive marks on their lower legs.
Didn't they used to say it was the years field rest that used to do them more good than the actual firing?
Can't remember when I last saw a horse who had been fired.
Elf On A Shelf
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Personally I think Firing does nothing but give them ugly scars and provide alot of pain int he process. But yes, it is still done, we havea 6yo and a 7yo horse on the yard what have been Pin Fired in front. Haven't had a bar fired one for a while though.
bumblelion
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I haven't seen any horses for a while that have been fired. My exracer, who's 13 now has been blistered though.
Pottermouse
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One of the winners at Ascot had been hobdayed. I saw a horse in an auction recently that had been fired. Who would purposefully burn a horse!
