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Opinions from the more experienced in these matters please. :confused::confused::confused:

Do these shoes look okay to you? The below Photobucket album contains photos of my horse's set of shoes, as hot-fitted earlier this afternoon.

Personally, I thought WTF when I saw them. But am I over-reacting; Are they okay because I'm really not sure I'm happy with them but don't want to make an un-necessary fuss?

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no i would not be happy either i cant see any reason to leave a load of toe hanging over the front of a shoe the hind shoes look too small and fronts to wide i would complain or get another farrier to have a look and get them off asap. was it your normal farrier
 
Does your horse over reach? I think the purpose of the set back toe is so that the shoe doesn't clip the heel of the front thereby pulling it, also to aid breakover. My farrier makes the shoe wider than the quarters to help the heel open up. Takes months tho'.
 
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I presume your horse's feet are not usually shod this way from your reaction?

I possibly can't explain why well enough but one of my horse's is shod very similar to this.

The overhang is to do with breakover and the shoe to the side is for lateral extension.

Hopefully an expert on here can give a better explanation.
 
they are awful! frog looks completely restricted, are the shoes even on straight?

I take it your farrier was attempting to 4-point shoe? I really don't like that system of shoeing, I have never seen a horse who has benefitted from it.
 
They really dont look good to me, im no expert, but iv never had my horses shod like that! the heels look awful and the overhanging toe? If it was me, id be getting my farrier back down and telling him to do redo them all.
 
The photos are of one horse. Mine. Hot shod this afternoon. It was my normal farrier's recently qualified apprentice. And no, he's not into natural balance shoeing (altho I agree it resembles that on the hind shoes!) He's done her a couple of times before. Satisfactory job generally. Main farrier is far better though. Glad it's not just me that thought WTF.

I was just wondering if I was missing something. Something that would make a farrier put shoes on like that.
 
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My husband says those are dub toed shoes (the ones on the hinds) and are to prevent overreaching. The farrier has given your horse lost of support.

He says from what he can see from the pictures, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the job he has done there.

Does your horse over reach? Anyway even if it doesnt he has provided quite a lot of support for the front feet and is probably just trying to prevent any overreaching.
 
Ask the farrier to come out and see his apprentices work, he is supposed to have been training and supervising him so he should know. If you can send the pictures by email to him explaining your concerns and asking the reasoning for this shoeing.
 
They look like shoes put on in the natural balance style.

The shoe should be one thumb width from the point of frog - it brings the breakover point back and supports the heel. Other than the possible restriction of the frog, my boy has always been shod like this (admittedly he had a broken back hoof/pastern axis - unless your boy had long toes, it doesn't look like he has this problem, and collapsed heels, again with your lad, ditto).

My horse had to wear over reach boots as the shoes overlapped the hoof on the quarters and heels to aid support and keep the wall together.

But, if in doubt, ask your farrier.
 
it also looks like some sort of nh shoes, something slightly similiar to cytek shoes? BUT if you didn't ask for this sort of shoe then i'd be going ape at the farrier if he put them on without me asking him to.
 
My response is more on your relationship with your farrier; if I was unsure what or why something had been done, I'd call him up and ask him, simple - and he'd be happy to explain everything.

If your first point of call was to this forum, rather than to him, then there's a problem as your relationship with him must be close and trusting. In my humble opinion.
 
I am no expert and some history would be useful. How was the horse previously shod. How old. How long in shoes?
The farrier seems to have put the shoe where the foot should be. In other words this is a good job,trying to correct years of not so good shoeing. Setting the toe back is good. Making the shoe wide and long is good. High nailing is good. The trouble is one hour in the field will probably be the end of this set,as the horse is likely to tread a shoe off. Which is why farriers tend to shoe short. It saves them the late night,early morning repeated phone calls...........'My horse has lost a shoe!Can you come and put it back TODAY!'

OH is a farrier,but thank the lord he now just does barefoot horses so our nights are no longer disturbed by clients who have lost a shoe.:)
 
The horse is 16.2 WBxTB 4 year old. She's been shod since a long-yearling because she has bilateral off-set knees:

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She was backed in March but been turned away all summer due to a virus and is only at grass. She's never ever over-reached, although because she's previously been shod with an outer flare in-front to help her conformation, she was prone to pulling her front shoes off in the mud during the winter. The farrier no longer shoes with the front flare though, since she's been backed this year.
 
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sorry but your farrier did shoe with the 'front flare' as you call it! There is a lateral extention on at least one of the front shoes! This can be clearly seen in one of the photos where you can see metal on the side of the hoof at the heel.
 
JackyandRosie said:
My response is more on your relationship with your farrier; if I was unsure what or why something had been done, I'd call him up and ask him, simple - and he'd be happy to explain everything.

If your first point of call was to this forum, rather than to him, then there's a problem as your relationship with him must be close and trusting. In my humble opinion.
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No, no problem with my relationship with my farrier. He's been away this week and his newly qualified apprentice did this job today. I left a message on my farrier's answer machine earlier this afternoon and expect a call-back as soon as he's back. Meanwhile, I'm posting here to enquire whether I should be as concerned as I feel, or whether I'm simply over-reacting at a form of shoeing I am unfamiliar with.
 
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sorry but your farrier did shoe with the 'front flare' as you call it! There is a lateral extention on at least one of the front shoes! This can be clearly seen in one of the photos where you can see metal on the side of the hoof at the heel.
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Yes, slighly these days but nothing like formerly! But thanks for your input, it's reassuring to know another farrier feels the method of shoeing is okay. Pity my farrier isn't about this weekend to ask :)
 
Spyda said:
Yes, slighly these days but nothing like formerly! But thanks for your input, it's reassuring to know another farrier feels the method of shoeing is okay. Pity my farrier isn't about this weekend to ask :)
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As far has he can see from the pictures for a recently qualified lad my husband says he has done really well. An excellent job.

Dont fret and I am sure your farrier will put your mind at ease when you speak to him.
 
The horse clearly has conformation problems, there are two or three things that concern me:
1] this is a new way to shoe this horse, or you would not have remarked on it.
2] it is a newly qualified apprentice without the years of experience of his mentor
3]he did not discuss it with you.
How is the horse walking. and are how does she feel when ridden?
I would insist that the farrier shoes your horse in future, or that his employee is supervised.
 
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EnduroRider said:
Some sort of natural balance shoeing?
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they look very like natural balance shoes but they are far to back and the foot doesnt look like its been finished off i would put over reach boots on till you get them sorted as they are so far back they could be pulled off by the hinds if hooning around the field
 
cassie summers said:
they look very like natural balance shoes but they are far to back and the foot doesnt look like its been finished off i would put over reach boots on till you get them sorted as they are so far back they could be pulled off by the hinds if hooning around the field
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those ARE the hind feet! They are dub toed hind shoes!
 
Obviously it is remedial shoeing, what I'm not getting is why there was no communication about changing the method of shoeing between you and this apprentice AT THE TIME, if this is not the usual way the horse is shod.

If this was me and I hadn't been consulted (even mentioning it!), I'd be a bit cross/confused.

Do you not find it odd?
 
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