Piebald, skewbald or tri-coloured?

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I bought my baby coblet at the end of May as a passported piebald and the front end is definitely black and white...

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However, as the last of his winter coat disappeared, his patches on both sides of his belly and quarters appear to be brown, with some roaning, although I think they are black in the winter. You can see the brown best in this pic of him meeting my TB...

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He was only passported in February so at that time. with his winter coat which is often darker anyway, he was just black and white, which is correct for how he looked at the time, but clearly his summer coat is lighter. I just wondered whether I am still correct to call him piebald or whether I should be calling him skewbald or even tri-coloured. Is it "normal" for piebalds to have paler patches in the summer as I've not owed a coloured before?

Thanks :)
 
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Great, thanks for clarifying... he does indeed have a very sweet face... when I had my previous baby coblet I couldn't wait for him to grow up. With Albi I really want him to stay diddy because he's so cute (but don't be fooled, he also has little sod tendencies at times!!!)
 
I always thought that tricoloureds had to have black in their mane and tail..so i would say he is piebald and very very very cute by the way, such a pretty face
 
Haha !! He's gorgeous - and piebald. The tri-colour description refers to Jack Russels and other terriers that are tan,white and black. :D
 
marmalade76 said:
:confused: AFAIA horses were either piebald (black and white) or skewbald (any colour/colours and white) and that there was no such thing as a tri-coloured horse. :confused:
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That's my understanding too... "tri-coloured" seems to have wormed it's way in as a description in recent years.

And he does actually have black in his tail... amongst the white... but I'm still sticking with piebald :D
 
Aw, hes gorgeous!

Bonnie, a coblet I ride at my RS, is JET black in winter, and has magically turned into bay for the summer?!
 
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No such thing as a tricoloured. Piebald is white and black. Skewbald is white and any other colour. Of course bay and white (skewbald) horses are going to have black mane and tails. The only way you'd get a brown mane and tail is if it was BROWN and white, which would be incrediably unusual - there are very few truely brown horses.

Domane - he may be a very very dark bay and white (skewbald) - the colour most 'black' horses are, since truely black horses are usual.
 
This is what the Wikipedia says:

A Tobiano patterned HorseTobiano is a spotted color pattern commonly seen in Pinto horses, produced by a dominant gene. The tobiano gene produces white-haired, pink-skinned patches on a base coat color. The coloration is present from birth and does not change throughout the horse's lifetime, unless the horse also carries the gray gene. (see below)

Other spotting patterns seen in Pinto horses include overo and the sabino markings. In the United Kingdom, Tobianos are frequently referred to as "Coloured" or as Piebald (black and white) or Skewbald (white and any base color other than black). However, Bay and white horses are also referred to as Tri-Coloured.
 
I love him!!! hes gorgeous :)

I have a very pink tobiano cob, shes classed as a skewbald - she is grey and white :D
 
There is such a thing as a tri-coloured horse but it is not a skewbald with a black mane and tail but a horse with three colours on the body. They are fairly rare but they do exist.
 
My skewbald was classed as Tri coloured as she does have black on her legs as well as brown and white...(she also has a pure black tail and black and white mane with black forelock)

Altho I didn't think the term was 'technically correct'...however, it is a term being used much more widely these days so I don't think the technicality really matters!

Yep, your horse is a piebald :)
 
Royal, your horse is a skewbald, my bay skewbald had the typical black point that a bay horse has on one of his front legs along with a black tail, forelock and three quarter of a black mane, but he is a skewbald. If he had brown, black and white patches on his body, then he would be a tri-coloured.

I did have an arguement with one judge who said my lad was not a skewbald but a tri-coloured and should be shown as an odd coloured, as he had a small black area on one front leg just below his knee and a black tail etc and told her to read the CHAPS and BSPA rules which clearly stated the patches must be on the body and mane and tail being black on a skewbald, with the small point area on the leg that a bay has does not make him a tri-coloured.

Excuse the goofy face but I was very pleased with my three year old that day, but look at the near fore and you can see the black just above the knee which is allowed on a bay skewbald.

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