Pink Powder or Haylege Balancer?

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Hi...Youngster has been in for 7 days now due to snow, ice and rubbish weather. I've had to move from Hay to Haylege...luckily i had enough hay for a few days to mix in gradually the haylege.
Yesterday and today has been the first days he's only had Haylege in his net.
This morning his poops were looser than normal...not runny, more like a solid cowpat?!!?

I've been reading about NAF Pink Powder but got confused when i noticed the Haylege Balancer...Which one would be best?

I'm hoping Tuesday i be able to turn out but he's deffo got a few more days in the stable ahead of him and a bit worried that the haylege is making him loose.

He's fine in himself, bright eyed and bushy tailed and eating his breakfast and tea as normal.

I just think that the haylege is a bit rich for him but as there is no hay it's that or nothing!!!

Do you have any thoughts on which of the 2 products would be better?
 
they are both very similar so i would go with the pink powder, i don't agree with NP as i have always found Natural Animal Feed products good and do what they say on the tin.
 
I'm not sure if they are similar... Pink powder is a pro biotic usually used to help horses with poor condition to gain condition by boosting gut function (a bit like yakult for horses). Haylage balancer, I believe, is used to make sure horses on a diet made mostly of haylage get enough vits and mins.

I would guess the reason that your horse has loose droppings is because he is suddenly getting a lot less fibre than he would when he is on grass/constant grazing. The best thing to do to combat this would probably be to get him on some hi fibre cubes, like baileys or spillers high fibre cubes until he gets back out to grass.
 
Thanks NP, I've had a quick look on their website and i think the MultiVit PRO would be the one i go for however it's quite pricey...is NAF really that bad, other people seem to have had good results with their products?
 
Thanks HB, He's currently on 2.5kg a day of Winergy Equilibrium Low Energy feed which has all the vits, mins and goodies he needs already in it.
It's been a great feed for him and he's been on it for months...
He loves the haylege and it's really good quality and I'm sure once i can get him out munching on grass the poops will harden (well you know what i mean) again so i just need something to help his tummy while he's stuck in.
 
My TB who has gut problems, is a poor doer and is very prone to colic does really well on NAF Thrive, so I can recommend that. My vet reccommended it to me in the first place :)


Haylege balancer also includes Pink Powder btw.


(Edited, wrote wrong supplement :rolleyes:)
 
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As he's already having a good quality, nutritionally balanced feed, and is just a bit looser than usual as his gut is getting used to the haylage, probably best to just let him be for the moment. Changing his hard feed or adding another supplement to his existing feed will just confuse his system even more.
A few days of acclimatisation won't do him any harm - and if it does become a problem, call Winergy, and they will be able to tell you what to use with their feed.
 
Auslander said:
As he's already having a good quality, nutritionally balanced feed, and is just a bit looser than usual as his gut is getting used to the haylage, probably best to just let him be for the moment. Changing his hard feed or adding another supplement to his existing feed will just confuse his system even more.
A few days of acclimatisation won't do him any harm - and if it does become a problem, call Winergy, and they will be able to tell you what to use with their feed.
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Cunning plan...i think your right but i still might give the vet a quick tinkle in the morning and see if he recommends anything or like you say give his tummy a few days to get used to the haylege.
However at least i have a couple of good websites and recommendations to look in to.

Thanks for all your advice everyone, much appreciated.

I'm off to make the most of the last of the snow before it melts away completely. Nite everyone :)

....now where did i leave that sledge....
 
Hi there

there is a difference between hay and haylage.. hay is dried grass, haylage is pickled grass. The horses stomach is already very acidic, adding haylage can make it even more so and can cause digestive/temperament issues such as ulsers or loose stools as your horse has.

Haylage balancer has antacids (like Rennie) which will help to neutralise the acid produced in the stomach, it also has bentonite clay which will line the stomach, pre and probiotics to keep the gut flora healthy and broad spec vits and mins.

Pink powder is more a feed balancer again with the pre and probiotics , amino acids and lots of vits and mins. Pink powder will help to put weight on a horse and will help to prevent digestive problems such as colic.

As your boy has had this problem (loose stools) since you introduced the haylage i would suggest the Haylage balancer .

NAF work very hard with vets and scientists to ensure that their products really do "what it says on the tin!" Ive been lucky enough to visit the NAF factory , it is amazing , no other supplement company could make products in the same human lab conditions which is why i guess NAF are the only sup company to be used by the British Olympic Team!
 
nativetyponies said:
WOW....Just think what we, as a nation, could achieve if NAF products weren't used? :p
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Well, 20 years ago horse were considered old at 12 and PTS not long after!. In 2010 we have 19year olds that will compete at the Olympics and jump round Badminton. Supplements if fed correctly definately help!
 
nativetyponies said:
WOW....Just think what we, as a nation, could achieve if NAF products weren't used? :p
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Why do you have to be so rude to anyone who doesn't think the same way as you? i personally love NAF products, and i have just counted (yes i am sad) that i have used 10 of there supplements for one reason of another and 10 out of the 10 did exactly what they say on the tin, i have also used 6 of there other products and again did what they were meant to.

everyone on this planet has an opinion but being rude because we don't all share the same one is just not on. i don't slate you for what you do/use/have so why do the same to others. i am going to get off my high horse now.
 
I use the haylage balancer because; due to the hay shortage, my boy is on haylage.

I rang NAF and they were excellent and I discussed my boys needs; very much as yours OP ;) .

I have seen an improvement, but my boy is always a little loose! He is blooming though :D
 
StinkiPinki said:
Hi there

there is a difference between hay and haylage.. hay is dried grass, haylage is pickled grass. The horses stomach is already very acidic, adding haylage can make it even more so and can cause digestive/temperament issues such as ulsers or loose stools as your horse has.

Haylage balancer has antacids (like Rennie) which will help to neutralise the acid produced in the stomach, it also has bentonite clay which will line the stomach, pre and probiotics to keep the gut flora healthy and broad spec vits and mins.

Pink powder is more a feed balancer again with the pre and probiotics , amino acids and lots of vits and mins. Pink powder will help to put weight on a horse and will help to prevent digestive problems such as colic.
As your boy has had this problem (loose stools) since you introduced the haylage i would suggest the Haylage balancer .

NAF work very hard with vets and scientists to ensure that their products really do "what it says on the tin!" Ive been lucky enough to visit the NAF factory , it is amazing , no other supplement company could make products in
the same human lab conditions which is why i guess NAF are the only sup company to be used by the British Olympic Team!
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ditto this, naf products are very good and most are not full off fillers such as other makes. Haylage balancer would be the best for you to help with the stomach acid.
 
Hels_Bells said:
I would guess the reason that your horse has loose droppings is because he is suddenly getting a lot less fibre than he would when he is on grass/constant grazing.
The best thing to do to combat this would probably be to get him on some hi fibre cubes, like baileys or spillers high fibre cubes until he gets back out to grass.
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Would this help loose droppings - I might look into them - although would have to swap out some haylage and having to restrict him to 12KGs a day as he is filling out rapidly whilst we're struggling to work.
 
Dizzy The Blonde Reindeer said:
Why do you have to be so rude to anyone who doesn't think the same way as you? i personally love NAF products, and i have just counted (yes i am sad) that i have used 10 of there supplements for one reason of another and 10 out of the 10 did exactly what they say on the tin, i have also used 6 of there other products and again did what they were meant to.

everyone on this planet has an opinion but being rude because we don't all share the same one is just not on. i don't slate you for what you do/use/have so why do the same to others. i am going to get off my high horse now.
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Was pondering this too.!!!!
 
Sorry for the delay in replying, i've been out sledging!!!

Anyhoo, wowzers allot has been going on whilst I've been away...

Thanks for all your replies peeps. I'm phoning the vet tomorrow and I'll have a quick chat with him however depending on what the vet says i might leave him for a couple of days and see if his poop improves. If it doesn't then I'll look into the suggestions posted on here.

Thanks for clarifying the difference of Pink Powder and the Haylege Balancer...i think from what people have said, the Haylege Balancer sounds the most obvious choice...Clue is in the name really...Doh!!!
 
**Vanner** said:
Would this help loose droppings - I might look into them - although would have to swap out some haylage and having to restrict him to 12KGs a day as he is filling out rapidly whilst we're struggling to work.
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Suddenly loose droppings are often as a result of a reduction in fibre. My horses are on haylage all year round and fine on it, but when we lose the grass under lots of snow they often suffer from loose droppings as they aren't getting as much fibre as they do from fresh grass, hence I will add in some high fibre cubes. My 32 year old is on them permanently (recommended by probably the most well regarded eq nutritionist in the UK) as he can eat grass but due to his lack of teeth struggles to eat enough hay/haylage to give him enough fibre. :)
 
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