Planned PTS questions

[Daniel_Jack]

It's really not nice. I always assumed I'd only pts when the horse needed it not because if financial and other circumstances.

It's gotten to the point thought where u was actually hoping for her lameness to get worse so that I could justify the decision which would be more unfair on her.

 

[Barton Bounty]

It's really not nice. I always assumed I'd only pts when the horse needed it not because if financial and other circumstances.

It's gotten to the point thought where u was actually hoping for her lameness to get worse so that I could justify the decision which would be more unfair on her.

Its not nice but I think if she already has health issues and you have exhausted everything then your doing the kindest fairest thing

 

[Gloi]

When I had been putting things off with an old pony I must admit that although it was sad I felt better in some ways no longer stressing about the thought of it.

 

[Daniel_Jack]

She does have issues that make her unrideable but she seems field sound which is what makes it harder.

Over time though I suspect it along with her poor conformation will cause more issues.

 

[maya2008]

It's really not nice. I always assumed I'd only pts when the horse needed it not because if financial and other circumstances.

And yet she does need it - because you can no longer care for her, and rehoming a lame, unrideable horse is full of danger and likely future suffering. You’re doing this to keep her safe, so she doesn’t end up buted up and ridden, or neglected, or worse. She’ll never know starvation or suffering or abuse this way.

 

[Daniel_Jack]

And yet she does need it - because you can no longer care for her, and rehoming a lame, unrideable horse is full of danger and likely future suffering. You’re doing this to keep her safe, so she doesn’t end up buted up and ridden, or neglected, or worse. She’ll never know starvation or suffering or abuse this way.

I know that is sound logic but ultimately, it's my own failure to be able to care for her long term that is the primary driver - if I had more time/more money/made more sacrifices she could live a long, comfortable life.

 

[Carlosmum]

Absolutely nothing wrong in having a horse PTS for any reason what so ever. To put it bluntly our animals are possessions, in the end and what we do with them is up to us. PTS is a far better option than throwing away or re-cycling into an unknown future.
I said goodbye to my chap in the summer. Vet came, allowed me to stay whilst he was sedated then she and my OH chased me away while they finished off. I took myself out for the day so OH could dig a big hole and bury him on the farm

 

[Hormonal Filly]

We're booked in for Friday afternoon.

It's a strange feeling - a mix of dread and sadness combined with relief that I won't have to worry about her anymore.

I remember the exact feeling you’re going through when I PTS my gelding a couple of years ago. I almost felt better I had made the decision and booked the time.

I had the hunt/knacker man (hate that word) because he was so scared of vets and awful to inject. He had a huge bucket of feed, big handful of polos and knew nothing. Gone.

Thinking of you DJ xx

 

[Carlosmum]

I know that is sound logic but ultimately, it's my own failure to be able to care for her long term that is the primary driver - if I had more time/more money/made more sacrifices she could live a long, comfortable life.

It is by no means a failure. It is the kindest and best thing you can do

 

[Birker2020]

We had a vet once refuse to pts a lovely 6 year old horse gelding who was otherwise healthy but needed rehabbing for very mild kissing spines. The family just didn't want to do the rehab, the girl was only young and she just didn't want to bother with it and she'd just had a puppy bought her by her parents who continually over indulged her and let her have whatever she wanted. So the horse was surplus to requirements and she wanted rid. Her parents couldn't afford ongoing treatment so were happy to have it pts.

They booked the slot to have the horse pts, he was a lovely horse and the whole yard where sickened and saddened to hear what was happening, I can remember being there at the time and feeling extremely sick and very upset because the horse could have been rehabbed and ridden again very easily.

When the vet arrived he managed to persuade them to let him have a week to find it another home, and he did so, and the new people picked up the horse and took it to be retired at their small holding.

Sadly the horse succumbed to colic after a week or two.

OP For a horse that has the issues that yours does then you are doing the right thing. Chronic suspensory, sweet itch and weight management issues are something that can't be overlooked.

 

[SEL]

I know that is sound logic but ultimately, it's my own failure to be able to care for her long term that is the primary driver - if I had more time/more money/made more sacrifices she could live a long, comfortable life.

It's not a failure - plus coming into winter makes it a lot harder for those horses that aren't 100% sound because their aches and pains flare up.

 

[Cortez]

We had a vet once refuse to pts a lovely 6 year old horse gelding who was otherwise healthy but needed rehabbing for very mild kissing spines. The family just didn't want to do the rehab, the girl was only young and she just didn't want to bother with it and she'd just had a puppy bought her by her parents who continually over indulged her and let her have whatever she wanted. So the horse was surplus to requirements and she wanted rid. Her parents couldn't afford ongoing treatment so were happy to have it pts.

They booked the slot to have the horse pts, he was a lovely horse and the whole yard where sickened and saddened to hear what was happening, I can remember being there at the time and feeling extremely sick and very upset because the horse could have been rehabbed and ridden again very easily.

When the vet arrived he managed to persuade them to let him have a week to find it another home, and he did so, and the new people picked up the horse and took it to be retired at their small holding.

Sadly the horse succumbed to colic after a week or two.

OP For a horse that has the issues that yours does then you are doing the right thing. Chronic suspensory, sweet itch and weight management issues are something that can't be overlooked.

May I suggest that since you were not the owner of this horse you could not be party to all the issues involved. Putting a horse down because the treatment is unaffordable is a perfectly legitimate reason to do so, and in the event would have been kinder than what ultimately happened.

 

[Birker2020]

May I suggest that since you were not the owner of this horse you could not be party to all the issues involved. Putting a horse down because the treatment is unaffordable is a perfectly legitimate reason to do so, and in the event would have been kinder than what ultimately happened.

Whatever.

 

[Cortez]

Whatever.

Always a pleasure having a reasoned, well thought out, insightful debate with you Birker....

 

[SadKen]

We had a vet once refuse to pts a lovely 6 year old horse gelding who was otherwise healthy but needed rehabbing for very mild kissing spines. The family just didn't want to do the rehab, the girl was only young and she just didn't want to bother with it and she'd just had a puppy bought her by her parents who continually over indulged her and let her have whatever she wanted. So the horse was surplus to requirements and she wanted rid. Her parents couldn't afford ongoing treatment so were happy to have it pts.

They booked the slot to have the horse pts, he was a lovely horse and the whole yard where sickened and saddened to hear what was happening, I can remember being there at the time and feeling extremely sick and very upset because the horse could have been rehabbed and ridden again very easily.

When the vet arrived he managed to persuade them to let him have a week to find it another home, and he did so, and the new people picked up the horse and took it to be retired at their small holding.

Sadly the horse succumbed to colic after a week or two.

OP For a horse that has the issues that yours does then you are doing the right thing. Chronic suspensory, sweet itch and weight management issues are something that can't be overlooked.

I would not want to be on your yard if the residents feel that they have such an interest in other people’s decisions about their horses, and a right to know all the details about their lives to determine whether they agree the decision is ok. It really is none of their business and kissing spine is painful, requires investment and rehab, and doesn’t necessarily work. However such horses are bin end dealer dreams. Pts stops the dealer making a huge profit, the horse having an uncertain potentially painful future, and the innocent buyer being screwed.

hate to continue the thread derail OP, I think you too are very much making the right decision but I stand by what I said - it’s nobody else’s business.

 

[Birker2020]

Always a pleasure having a reasoned, well thought out, insightful debate with you Birker....

They could afford to spend £2,500 on a pedigree puppy though couldn't they? The rehab didn't cost them anything. They were just not bothered about doing it as the daughter had gone off the idea of wanting a horse and wanted a puggle, whoodle, frug, chug or whatever other daft combination of dogs was the latest trend.

With respect I think I know more about it than you. I didn't want to go into details as it could be quite outing but heh.

 

[Dexter]

Always a pleasure having a reasoned, well thought out, insightful debate with you Birker....

How anyone can condemn someone for putting a horse with kissing spines down is beyond me. And given what ultimately happened, probably caused by ulcers from the back pain anyway, I would be too embarrassed to tell that story in any sort of positive light.

 

[Birker2020]

I would not want to be on your yard if the residents feel that they have such an interest in other people’s decisions about their horses, and a right to know all the details about their lives to determine whether they agree the decision is ok. It really is none of their business and kissing spine is painful, requires investment and rehab, and doesn’t necessarily work. However such horses are bin end dealer dreams. Pts stops the dealer making a huge profit, the horse having an uncertain potentially painful future, and the innocent buyer being screwed.

hate to continue the thread derail OP, I think you too are very much making the right decision but I stand by what I said - it’s nobody else’s business.

You missed the whole point but still.

 

[Cortez]

They could afford to spend £2,500 on a pedigree puppy though couldn't they? The rehab didn't cost them anything. They were just not bothered about doing it as the daughter had gone off the idea of wanting a horse and wanted a puggle, whoodle, frug, chug or whatever other daft combination of dogs was the latest trend.

With respect I think I know more about it than you. I didn't want to go into details as it could be quite outing but heh.

It doesn't matter who knows more, it's nobody's business other than the owners of the animal in question.

 

[Birker2020]

It doesn't matter who knows more, it's nobody's business other than the owners of the animal in question.

So are we not allowed to relay events or experience anymore unless the subject in question belongs to us? Its nobody's business whether I send my horse to the blood bank or not but that's not stopped anyone sticking their ore in without invitation has it?

 

[SadKen]

You missed the whole point but still.

no, I simply referenced exactly what you said, and that it’s none of your yard’s business when someone chooses to put their horse to sleep regardless of whether you think it’s justifiable or not. Your yard judges other people’s decisions, when you cannot possibly fully understand the situation they are in, because their personal situation is absolutely none of your business or your yard’s business, and it’s highly unlikely and totally unnecessary for you and your nosy yard to hear all the details of someone else’s situation to better judge someone else’s choice!

Such unwarranted judgement is part of what causes people to give their horses to bin end dealers either by being fooled or naivety, and it causes huge suffering. PTS doesn’t.

 

[Cortez]

So are we not allowed to relay events or experience anymore unless the subject in question belongs to us? Its nobody's business whether I send my horse to the blood bank or not but that's not stopped anyone sticking their ore in without invitation has it?

Relay events all you like, but be prepared to have people question your quite obvious condemnation and bias, and also not agree with you. It is, after all, a discussion forum, not specifically a gossip fest.

ETA: *oar

 

[Gloi]

So are we not allowed to relay events or experience anymore unless the subject in question belongs to us? Its nobody's business whether I send my horse to the blood bank or not but that's not stopped anyone sticking their ore in without invitation has it?

The horse owner didn't talk about it on the internet though whereas you did.

 

[Xmasha]

Also dreading telling yard owner as she's at a retirement yard and one of the youngest ones there so I'm the exception to all the other liveries who are willing/able to give their horses a lovely long retirement.

Please dont feel like that, not every horse should be kept going. From what youve posted, you are doing the right thing. Your horse , your decision. We have just had our mare PTS, the decison and lead up toit was awful. But i know we did the right thing, and now as much as i miss her, i feel relieved. Hope you get the support you deserve

 

[Daniel_Jack]

I see the same individual that derailed my last thread is doing the same here so I've blocked them so I can't see her responses to what was an unhelpful comment in the first place.

I'm going to request that this thread is closed if possible to stop it further going off track.

Grayshill are booked and all will be done by Friday.

 

[Birker2020]

Please dont feel like that, not every horse should be kept going. From what youve posted, you are doing the right thing. Your horse , your decision.

That's what I said too.

Its hard having a horse pts, I had my horse of 17 years pts last June, it was a hard decision but one that I know was right.

 

[Cortez]

I see the same individual that derailed my last thread is doing the same here so I've blocked them so I can't see her responses to what was an unhelpful comment in the first place.

I'm going to request that this thread is closed if possible to stop it further going off track.

Grayshill are booked and all will be done by Friday.

FWIW I think you are doing the right thing. I hope Friday goes as well as it is possible, my condolences.

 

[ycbm]

We're booked in for Friday afternoon.

It's a strange feeling - a mix of dread and sadness combined with relief that I won't have to worry about her anymore.

Have no doubts, this is right for you and for her. I'm sorry you have to face it with such a young horse, you both got dealt a bad hand.
.

 

[ihatework]

A sad decision. A brave decision. Ultimately the right decision.

I hope Friday goes smoothly for you.

Don’t feel the need to justify your decision to anyone. ‘The time was right, I’m heartbroken’ is all you need to say.

 

[The Xmas Furry]

I see the same individual that derailed my last thread is doing the same here so I've blocked them so I can't see her responses to what was an unhelpful comment in the first place.

I'm going to request that this thread is closed if possible to stop it further going off track.

Grayshill are booked and all will be done by Friday.

I've read your posts and completely agree with your decision, hope Friday goes smoothly, I find the waiting after making the call the most hard time but after the event relief sets in, hugs xx

Psst, ignore the self inflated idiot, I have only 2 blocked on here and from Cortez's response up thread, it's one of them....