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Fiagai - The North Norfolk are meeting on the eighth sandbar to the right of the shipwreck at Wells about 10mins before high tide next Weds ;)
 

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Fiagai - The North Norfolk are meeting on the eighth sandbar to the right of the shipwreck at Wells about 10mins before high tide next Weds ;)

thanks for that TP.
Rightho all ready - I will be wearing my waders - see u there a six bells ;)
 

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If you get there early you shouldn't need the waders, but it's a brilliant place to watch the tide come in from, if your face your back to the sea and look back at the beach at the right time it looks like the water goes all the way to the dunes *snigger*
 

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Why the secrecy if you are doing no wrong? It should all be above board and then there would be no need for anybody to watch the hunt. It is this secret squirrel that gives the hunt the reputation it has and it does nobody any favours. If you are hunting legally there should be no problem about advertising meets. To be hones, anybody who is an anti will know exactly where and when you are meeting without looking on HandH forum!
 

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Why the secrecy if you are doing no wrong? It should all be above board and then there would be no need for anybody to watch the hunt. It is this secret squirrel that gives the hunt the reputation it has and it does nobody any favours. If you are hunting legally there should be no problem about advertising meets. To be hones, anybody who is an anti will know exactly where and when you are meeting without looking on HandH forum!

Hunts have been subject to so much violent harassment over the years combined with more recent spurious prosecutions that there is a good reason not to give the information out on public forums where any man and his dog can see it. Genuine attendees are invited to contact the relevant hunt secretary for details prior to the day.

It is a well known fact that where meet details have been published on public forums trouble with saboteurs has usually followed. It is an easier tactic than following aimlessly round the countryside in the vague hope of finding a hunt to disrupt. After all one group of saboteurs famously targeted a meet of the blood hounds...

I would pose the alternative question, which is if antis are so proud of what they do - why are they the ones who cover their faces??
 

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We in the South East are subject to Abuse everytime we go out with our local Hunt Sabs group. Last week they all joined forces from 8 other SE groups, culmanating in 40/50 of them following us. Funny the day they choose to do this "BIG" hit was a day on the SouthDowns!!!!

Very funny watching there sad little faces as Hounds were disapearing miles in front of them across the downs, and then back again and the away again!!

We are a law Abiding pack, but with the abuse we get why would we publish our dates. Antis regulary have no respect for Farmers and Landowners property. So letting them no were we are would not be sensible. As someone in a previous post said, Thats what a Hunt Secretary is for, they will notify you of dates if your a regular.
 
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Why the secrecy if you are doing no wrong? It should all be above board and then there would be no need for anybody to watch the hunt. It is this secret squirrel that gives the hunt the reputation it has and it does nobody any favours. If you are hunting legally there should be no problem about advertising meets. To be hones, anybody who is an anti will know exactly where and when you are meeting without looking on HandH forum!

Because the anti hunt brigade hate wasting a day trip, and even though it is evident that the pack are hunting within the law, there are evidently two people disappearing into the distance dragging a smelly bag, followed by screaming hounds and red faced mounted followers who are just not used to going as fast in previous times, the sabs STILL try to distract hounds, call them off the line, video hounds and followers etc etc.
 

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Can I just stress that I asked for DAYS the hunts meet not DATES. Most hunts (certainly one of the two I hunt with) don't publish their meet venues and dates, but I simply asked for DAYS.
 

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Why the secrecy if you are doing no wrong? It should all be above board and then there would be no need for anybody to watch the hunt. It is this secret squirrel that gives the hunt the reputation it has and it does nobody any favours. If you are hunting legally there should be no problem about advertising meets. To be hones, anybody who is an anti will know exactly where and when you are meeting without looking on HandH forum!

TBH regarding Anti's - it really makes no difference...When hunting within the law, Anti's will endevour to make it appear that what is legal is otherwise for their own nefarious purposes - Take for instance the recent reportage regarding anti's calling hounds across a busy road and making derogatoty attacks on what was a in fact drag hunt

HB - Anti's appear to always presume that hounds are hunting illegally and attempt to disrupt and target arranged meets - unfortunate but true

Its not that anyone wants what you term "secrecy" - unfortunatly the scum that anti groups attract has resulted in the use of caution where making information available to those that do not need to know are concerned...
 

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We are meeting on the M5 at the Almondsbury interchange at about 4pm today, any sabs are welcome, please stand in the fast lane and we'll see you there!
 

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Not sure on VoR's meet but we caught 2 and a half brace! Not bad for the week before Christmas. It was awfully wet at Wells so the scent didn't lay well, and unfortunately we kept catching up with those runners. They all made the same mistake though - they kept whistling and whooping which made it SO easy for hounds to find and catch up with them! The big white banners with various letters of the alphabet were like big flashing arrows, no slinking around!
 

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Hunts have been subject to so much violent harassment over the years combined with more recent spurious prosecutions that there is a good reason not to give the information out on public forums where any man and his dog can see it. Genuine attendees are invited to contact the relevant hunt secretary for details prior to the day.

It is a well known fact that where meet details have been published on public forums trouble with saboteurs has usually followed. It is an easier tactic than following aimlessly round the countryside in the vague hope of finding a hunt to disrupt. After all one group of saboteurs famously targeted a meet of the blood hounds...

I would pose the alternative question, which is if antis are so proud of what they do - why are they the ones who cover their faces??

Hmm I think if you look on various websites you will see pictures of the Crawley and Horsham with balaclavas on and baseball bats threatening a woman sab with some very colourful and abusive language. I do get fed up with the hunt fraternity claiming they are whiter than white. There are thugs on both sides but make no mistake the hunt thugs can far outthug the antis in most cases. Most antis are looking to see if hunts are sticking to the law which most don't so it is no point debating the subject really, there is so much proof on camera which I have seen it just gets surpressed because of the many people associated with the hunt who have powerful positions within the law. So, in response to your question, most antis probably cover their face out of fear but why do hunt staff cover their faces?
 

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....... So, in response to your question, most antis probably cover their face out of fear Of PROSECUTION? but why do hunt staff cover their faces?

I take it that you have evidence, which hasn't been tampered with, and in photographic form of Hunt Staff in disguise. If you don't, then that really is a stupid comment.

Hunt Staff from which ever pack, have no need to travel in disguise.

Alec.
 
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it's ok lads according the the hunt sab on the bbc news this morning all the hunts have secret breeding centres for foxes ..... cause we are slaughtering so many there aren't enough left in the countryside :rolleyes:

hope everyone has a great safe day ...... i feel very jealous of all of you :D
 

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Made me giggle :D

I was at the local meet this morning, i could not believe how many people were out on foot, it was fab!! I have not been near a hunt in about 14years, nearly made me want to have a go again!!!

I had forgotten what a lovely sight it was, how well behaved the horses are and just the general excitment of the move off, fab!! :D
 

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OP, if you have no proof (and saying "well I saw it" is NOT proof) you are wasting your time.
So the hunt jumped into a field with the landowners permission, so what? Its your own fault for not bringing your horses in when you knew they would be hunting nearby. Get over it - don't you have anything better to do on Boxing Day than get your knickers in a twist over nothing?
 
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OP, if you have no proof (and saying "well I saw it" is NOT proof) you are wasting your time.
So the hunt jumped into a field with the landowners permission, so what? Its your own fault for not bringing your horses in when you knew they would be hunting nearby. Get over it - don't you have anything better to do on Boxing Day than get your knickers in a twist over nothing?

That sort of attitude doesn't help your cause any...
 

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Just a genuine musing, YGWYD, not an attitude at all. Nothing happened - all of your horses are fine. Why stress over it?
 
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