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One of my close friend found a stray male staffy today, no microchip/ collar and hasn't been reported missing to any vets or the dog warden. The dog warden says he'll be put down in 24 hours if he's handed in there as they are packed and have no room. My friend has 5 dogs so can't keep him! My mum has been looking for a dog for a while, didn't know whether to get a rescue or a pup and this lad just seems perfect. Unfortunately I still live at home so can't just 'get it' as it's not my house etc. Tentatively told my mum about him and her first comment 'he's not a staffy is he'. She is such a dog snob and won't even entertain the idea of him. Please will someone give me any tips on how to persuade her?! I feel sick at the thought of such a healthy, happy dog being destroyed. My friend has reported back and says he's good in a crate, friendly with other dogs and was calm around her horse. She's bringing him up to the yard tomorrow in a 'chance meeting' to see my dog and conveniently bump into my mum but I was just wondering if anyone had a similar situation where someone was set out to dislike a certain dog but then came around??
 
Is he on Doglost? That would be my first move. You need, by law, to inform the dog warden, but you can insist that the dog stay with you or your friend til a solution is found.

I think a chance meeting would be fab to demonstrate his gorgeousness, but don't be gutted if she won't agree, some people are very fixed on breeds they like/dislike.
 
She's checked, he's not on any sites :( she's put a thing out on fb too, she lives in a very small close knit village so people usually know when something is missing. The dog warden says they have hundreds of staffies that are being abandoned. Dog warden knows and he will be going there if a home isn't found in the meantime :(

I really hope she likes him. She's an animal lover so surely once she realises he'll be put down she comes round?!
 
Get your friend to tell her all of the stuff in your last post. It might convince her, but don't be sure! I am fixed on my breed, I think I'd find it very difficult to entertain another.
 
cinnamontoast said:
Is he on Doglost? That would be my first move. You need, by law, to inform the dog warden, but you can insist that the dog stay with you or your friend til a solution is found.

I think a chance meeting would be fab to demonstrate his gorgeousness, but don't be gutted if she won't agree, some people are very fixed on breeds they like/dislike.
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you cannot insist a dog stays with you , the dog warden can insist it is handed in though-have had first hand experience of this.
the dog warden is by law obliged to hold the dog for 7 days to allow the owner to came forward they cannot destroy the dog after 24hrs.
i love staffs but also know a lot of people who don't, if you convinced your mum to have him in the house and he bit her how would you feel?
 
twiggy2 said:
you cannot insist a dog stays with you , the dog warden can insist it is handed in though-have had first hand experience of this.
the dog warden is by law obliged to hold the dog for 7 days to allow the owner to came forward they cannot destroy the dog after 24hrs.
i love staffs but also know a lot of people who don't, if you convinced your mum to have him in the house and he bit her how would you feel?
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That's really strange that they said that he'd be put down then.

I would obviously feel really terrible but my friend is experienced with dogs and said he seems happy and friendly and hasn't shown any signs of aggression with her 5 dogs. I guess when you get any dog there's a chance of being bitten
 
The following is from a canine law website

''Once a seized dog has been detained for seven clear days, after seizure or delivery of notice on the owner and the owner has not claimed the dog and paid the fees due, the officer may dispose of the dog;

1) by selling or giving it to a person, who will in his opinion, care properly for the dog (the recipient becomes the new owner)

2) by selling it or giving it to an establishment for the reception of stray dogs; or (recipient becomes the new owner)

3) by destroying it in a manner to cause as little pain as possible

No dogs seized under this Act are to be given or sold for vivisection.

The dog warden must keep a register of dogs seized; details to be recorded are given in the Environmental Protection (Stray Dogs) Regulations 1992.

The register is available for public inspection, free of charge at a reasonable time.

Dogs must also be properly fed and maintained whilst detained.

A dog may be destroyed within the statutory seven day period - the officer may cause a dog detained under this section to be destroyed before the expiration of the period (7 Days) where he is of the opinion that this should be done to avoid suffering.

Finders of Stray Dogs (other than dog wardens or police):

Any person who finds a stray dog must;

1) return the dog to its owner or

2) take the dog to the Local Authority (for the area in which it was found)

And inform those in charge of where the dog was found. It is illegal to hold a found dog without reporting it first.

The Environmental Protection (Stray Dogs) Regulations 1992 describes the procedure to be followed where a stray dog is found by a member of the public who wishes to keep it. Where a dog has been brought in to the Local Authority, the finder may (under section 150(2) of the EPA 1990, request to keep the dog. Details as specified in law will be recorded.

If allowed to retain the dog, the finder must keep the dog for at least 28 days, however, the original owner can still claim the return of the dog, after this time – The Act does not deal with the civil law on ownership, e.g. the finder of a dog who follows all the procedures does not automatically become the dog’s legal owner after a period of 28 days, a dispute over ownership could follow. This is explained in the DOE Circular 6/1992: Control of Stray Dogs.

A report conducted by Gfk NOP on behalf of Dogs Trust states that an estimated 96,892 stray dogs were taken in by local councils in the UK over the course of one year (Annual Stray Dogs Report 2008).''
 
twiggy2 said:
If allowed to retain the dog, the finder must keep the dog for at least 28 days, however, the original owner can still claim the return of the dog, after this time – The Act does not deal with the civil law on ownership, e.g. the finder of a dog who follows all the procedures does not automatically become the dog’s legal owner after a period of 28 days, a dispute over ownership could follow. This is explained in the DOE Circular 6/1992: Control of Stray Dogs
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I'm guessing this is what applies to my friend then, she doesn't have 28 days though she has til the weekend :( and regardless of whether or they put them down after 1 day or 7 his future looks bleak because the warden said they have hundreds of staffs so I doubt he'd find a home. Hope the meeting goes well tomorrow!
 
Ask your mum to foster him until a home is found for him? I know that a lot of fosterers from the dog rescues I stay in touch with fail and end up keeping the dogs...
 
I must admit even though I have nothing against Staffies they are not my preferred breed of dog, Ive met lots and have to say they are delightful dogs. I did fall in love with one I fostered though, this wasnt through a rescue but through my daughters work, she works in a homeless shelter with people addicted to harmful substances and drink. The clients are allowed to have dogs and most of them are Staffies, one of her clients had to go into hospital and my daughter tried very hard to find a rescue for his Staffy, unfortunately there was no spaces for this dog so it looked increasingly likely this dog would be pts. My daughter was very upset as she knew this dog was all this man had and his recovery would be comprimised if this dog was pts.

Long story short I said I would take her, we didnt know what she was like with other dogs, my daughter is very protective towards her dog a little Lancashire Heeler and was worried she may be hurt if a fight broke out. The dog introductions were done by the book,parallel walking each dog in turn with this Staffy who did get excited but no aggression, she settled in well with my 3 social dogs and we kept her for 6 weeks. Tilly was a star and I could quite easily have kept her as she wormed or wriggled her way into my heart, I would say she could convert any anti Staffy people into raving about the breed and maybe this dog will have that affect on your mum. Perhaps your mum could be persuaded to give her a trial and hope this dog is half as persuasive as Tilly because you would have had to have had a very hard heart to turn her away.
 
Thanks for that Dobiegirl, such a lovely story and I'm really hoping this one turns out like that too! If he's as waggy and friendly as H makes out then I'm not sure how my mum can dislike him. And if he gets on with my dog then I think we're good to go! As Honey08 suggested above I could suggest we have him as a foster and then we can see if he gets on with Ruby in a home environment and she can come round to him. My mum is the sort of person that takes months to decide over things and sometimes I don't think she'll ever go out and get a dog because she's too busy umming and ahhing! Fingers crossed!
 
Little update, the meeting could not have gone any worse! My dog went for him and then my mum said she 'wasn't having that kind if dog'. But I've asked around everyone I know and found him a wonderful home on a 30 acre farm with a lovely lady so I could not be any happier for him!!! Lucky boy.
 
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