Please help, gelding not peeing

[skully]

My connie gelding has been having trouble urinating for the past week. He stands as if he's going to go and then stays there for a good five minutes until I ask him to walk on. I think he'd stand there for longer otherwise! Very worried that it could be a blockage or something serious. He does this every time he's ridden and occasionally in the field.

He lives out and is eating and drinking normally. He must be peeing at some point as it's been going on for a week, however I haven't seen it. Seems to be dropping normally in the field (still not peeing) but now while ridden. Has anyone else experienced something like this? My yard owner and riding instructor have both looked at his sheath and said there's no swelling/inflammation. Hoping it's not serious. Yard owner says to give it another couple of days before calling the vet as he's brightened up considerably over the past few days. What does everyone think?

 

[Supertrooper]

Call a vet! I'm sorry but if it was me I'd of spoken to a vet before now!

 

[ezililaur]

Just get the vet. No question!

 

[Queenbee]

My connie gelding has been having trouble urinating for the past week. He stands as if he's going to go and then stays there for a good five minutes until I ask him to walk on. I think he'd stand there for longer otherwise! Very worried that it could be a blockage or something serious. He does this every time he's ridden and occasionally in the field.

He lives out and is eating and drinking normally. He must be peeing at some point as it's been going on for a week, however I haven't seen it. Seems to be dropping normally in the field (still not peeing) but now while ridden. Has anyone else experienced something like this? My yard owner and riding instructor have both looked at his sheath and said there's no swelling/inflammation. Hoping it's not serious. Yard owner says to give it another couple of days before calling the vet as he's brightened up considerably over the past few days. What does everyone think?

I don't think for a second that this is a troll post, but surely, surely you are not asking advice on here?! What the hell can we say or do? Get a vet!!! At the other end of your horses pee hole are kidneys, when they are gone he ain't having any more!

 

[skully]

Thank you for your responses, I would call the vet immediately for anything to do with my own horse but this one is a part-loan and I'm not sure whether I'm within my rights to do so? I'm usually a very paranoid horse owner who calls the vet out for the tiniest things! I was just wondering whether anyone had any experience with this and how it turned out.

 

[Gloi]

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[Gloi]

Have you checked him out to make sure he's not got a bean blocking him up.
If he's a part loan, have you told his owner?

 

[Inthesticks]

my horse did the same, it was a bladder/water infection, I called the vet the first time i noticed it as he was straining and making a noise. Anti biotics were required.
Surely you have discussed with the owner you part loan with what to do in this situation? Have you spoke to them?

 

[skully]

I don't think it's a bean, we checked last week when it first started and I'll check again tomorrow. Yes I've spoken to the owner and she's keen to avoid costs wherever possible whereas I'd much rather pay to make sure he's alright. She said to leave him for a couple more days but I really don't want to put it off any longer as it's making him uncomfortable and could be doing damage.

Inthesticks - my friend suggested that, glad to know somebody else has had experience with this sort of thing.

 

[Inthesticks]

left untreated can be very serious, I would call the vet tomorrow

 

[Queenbee]

Call the vet regardless. If she doesn't like it tough, if you think a horse is potentially suffering you have a duty of care to call them. Loan horse or not, I absolutely wouldn't risk it.

 

[AmyMay]

The owner needs to call the vet tomorrow.

 

[Annagain]

My old boy did this when he had a urinary tract infection. Having had one myself I know how painful they can be. Please make sure the vet gets to him - either by talking to his owner or by calling one yourself. It will need anti-biotics and won't sort itself out.

 

[Fides]

I'm with everyone else... Although I would be tempted to call the vet out sooner - a urinary infection can go downhill very quickly and if it has been brewing for a week the poor sausage must be in so much discomfort. If you are waiting until tomorrow could you give him half a bute to ease his discomfort?

 

[Nessa4]

I don't think it's a bean, we checked last week when it first started and I'll check again tomorrow. Yes I've spoken to the owner and she's keen to avoid costs wherever possible whereas I'd much rather pay to make sure he's alright. She said to leave him for a couple more days but I really don't want to put it off any longer as it's making him uncomfortable and could be doing damage.

Inthesticks - my friend suggested that, glad to know somebody else has had experience with this sort of thing.

So bite the bulletand get the vet involved - if necessary pay the excess yourself (presume he's insured?)

 

[Voxhorse]

Poor thing, bladder infections (which it sounds like) are well dodgy, call vet ASAP!!!

 

[Marydoll]

To leave a horse behaving like this any longer is imo neglect and neither you or the owner deserve to have him if you dont get him seen by a vet asap, im Sorry if this is harsh but posts like this really grind my gears. By all means keep horsey costs down but not at the expense of a horse who is possibly in pain and needing veterinary treatment.

 

[Booboos]

I UTI is easy to treat with antibiotics early on but can have very serious complications if left untreated. I would call the vet out asap and consider it an emergency.

 

[poiuytrewq]

I think this is a little bit harsh on the op here.
Admittedly at first we don't know it's a share horse but ultimately it is and she's not actually the one in the position to call the vet.
The owner should be ashamed and I agree needs to pull her finger out and get the poor thing looked at.

 

[Alchemy]

Call a vet! I'm sorry but if it was me I'd of spoken to a vet before now!

This ^^^^^ even if you have the horse on part loan surely you have a duty of care to the animal? Sorry if this seems harsh it isn't meant to be but really waiting a week then another couple of days then the owner wanting to keep costs down! Is quite concerning

 

[Marydoll]

This ^^^^^ even if you have the horse on part loan surely you have a duty of care to the animal? Sorry if this seems harsh it isn't meant to be but really waiting a week then another couple of days then the owner wanting to keep costs down! Is quite concerning

I agree, cut costs on some things, cheaper bedding, tack, fancy boots and numnahs etc by all means but never on stuff that can seriously affect your horses health

 

[sueonmull]

Agree with everyone else needs input from a vet urgently.
I assume he must be passing urine either as a proper stream or just dribbling as he walks about (most obvious when he turns in a small circle and his back legs might be wet) otherwise by now he would be in a great deal of pain. Could be a ‘simple’ infection or something more serious – my horse had a bladder ultrasound, wash out and endoscope at home under mild sedation, didn’t work out that expensive but even if it did was, as others have said, this is a welfare issue.

 

[LouiseG]

Definitely call the VET immediately!!! I'm struggling to see how this can even be a serious question...

If the owner cant afford a vet or wants to keep costs down then they shouldn't have a horse in the first place, their health and wellbeing should never ever be compromised!!!!

 

[Rockman]

My 14 year old tb started this, he stopped weeing but would lift his tail and wee would drip out, everyone insisted I phone the vet but knowing my own horse I knew he wasn't in pain. Sure enough this went on for a week with him eating and drinking and weeing normally some of the time. I got the vet out after a week just for piece of mind and after a sedationand full exam of penis and rectal the vet said there was nothing wrong! We worked out that he will not wee unless there is a floor under him which will soak it up. We bank his bed up through the day and therefore he didn't like it splashing his legs, could be the same if the grass is solid? Also I used to collect in a bucket straight away while I was mucking out so my boy started only weeing when I wasn't there! He is now in a thick straw bed and after gentle encouragement wees around me again normally! Unless his bed isn't down! Personally I wish I'd have listened to myself you know your own horse and what it's like and that should be how you make your decision! Would have saved me £186 vet bill!

Good luck!

 

[putasocinit]

Are his legs swollen and other parts of his body, like his chest, in front of his sheath, if he was bot peeing he would have fluid retention as well. Did he used to pee when you held him. Could he be peeing in the field and you have not seen him actually do it. I would get the vet, not peeing is dangerous and you could be dealing with renal failure, only a vet can diagnose with blood tests. If its a loan it is still your responsibility to speak to the owner. Is he drinking enough, is the trough in the field clean.

 

[Alexart]

I'd be calling the vet asap if it were my horse as not peeing would be on my list of emergencies!! OP you are sharing this horse and so you do legally owe this animal a duty of care, get the vet out, as the horse must be registered with a vet and get them to send the bill to her. And I certainly wouldn't be riding a sick horse either, if it is a UTI which it sounds like it is more than likely is, he'll be feeling really awful and they can get quite disorientated if it is a bad one so could be potentially dangerous for you and the horse. If the owner is worried about costs she shouldn't have a horse at all, they are expensive pets, tell her if she doesn't get the vet out it could cost her 10 times the amount if it gets worse or she could loose the horse if it leads to renal failure worse case scenario!! FFS what is wrong with people!!

 

[RutlandH2O]

The owner is "keen to avoid costs wherever possible." Perhaps not owning a horse in the first place would be a start. I have never understood why people sit at a commuter asking for veterinary advice, when they should be contacting their vets ASAP. Sorry, but the owner's duty of care for the horse has to override her purse strings.

 

[Marydoll]

My 14 year old tb started this, he stopped weeing but would lift his tail and wee would drip out, everyone insisted I phone the vet but knowing my own horse I knew he wasn't in pain. Sure enough this went on for a week with him eating and drinking and weeing normally some of the time. I got the vet out after a week just for piece of mind and after a sedationand full exam of penis and rectal the vet said there was nothing wrong! We worked out that he will not wee unless there is a floor under him which will soak it up. We bank his bed up through the day and therefore he didn't like it splashing his legs, could be the same if the grass is solid? Also I used to collect in a bucket straight away while I was mucking out so my boy started only weeing when I wasn't there! He is now in a thick straw bed and after gentle encouragement wees around me again normally! Unless his bed isn't down! Personally I wish I'd have listened to myself you know your own horse and what it's like and that should be how you make your decision! Would have saved me £186 vet bill!

Good luck!

The difference is, its different behaviour for this horse and the op opened up with "please help" many horses wont pee if theres splashback, mine wont pee on concrete, and will retain until in the stable, but he is able to pee the horse described doesnt appear to be able to

 

[Rockman]

The difference is, its different behaviour for this horse and the op opened up with "please help" many horses wont pee if theres splashback, mine wont pee on concrete, and will retain until in the stable, but he is able to pee the horse described doesnt appear to be able to

If it's been going on for a week and the op says horse is eating and drinking normally so then it must be weeing at some point or as someone said above it would have extreme water retention by now. The op says that it does it while being ridden and occasionally in the field, suggesting when the owner is not around the horse is able to wee. Many horses stop and pretend to wee to get out of work and we don't know enough about this horse to suggest one outcome. As said in my post after a week I got the vet for piece of mind but as you said the post said please help so was just offering an alternative cause.

I would never tell someone not to get the vet to a horse I didn't own nevermind one I haven't seen, was just having an opinion.

 

[klipped]

Could be bladder stones, a friends horse recently suffered this. 72 hours in vets visits then 9 days admitted under a specialist emergency operation, bladder infected and 7grand in bills later... You really want to mess about????? You not concerned that hes drinking and its not coming back out???? bladders do burst its not a myth. Vet!