Please help me to narrow down a suitable eventer / jumping stallion.

LEC said:
What is KC stock doing eventing and how many have gone up the levels. His oldest progeny have been out and about a long time and they are not doing anything terribly special. Why not?

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Eleda All Black jumped clear XC at the Olympics. Not too bad!!!!
 
Well im a HUGE Craig fan, he stands with Bellegrace equine on facebook, lovely horse, will be out eventing properly this year, awesome horse, also stand Elthuder. cant go wrong. both have the movement and the jump, and craig is a x country machine
 
LEC said:
What is KC stock doing eventing and how many have gone up the levels. His oldest progeny have been out and about a long time and they are not doing anything terribly special. Why not?
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Well apart from the obvious, in Eleda All Black, as already mentioned, perhaps it's because his offspring have such fantastic temperaments, that it is predominantly amateurs that ride/produce them and they are perhaps limited by their jockeys capabilities/budget/aspirations. Similar things happen with many stallions - not everyone wants a world beater.

From a personal POV, the KC that I bred, is being brought on slowly, partly due to late development and partly because I don't believe in pushing a young horse. We were specific in not doing young horse classes with him. He has a wonderfully bold and kind temperament, a quick, yet trainable brain and is very athletic and LOVES his jumping, yet is Mr Cool for the dressage.
 
I ended up selling my Kings Composer. He was a reasonable looking horse, showed good technique over a fence, had a bit of scope. But by god was he thick and backwards, couldn't gallop to save his life and didn't move well enough for pure dressage.

All credit to Eleda All Black, he's plugged away and done well, but I have heard him described as an 'agricultural lump' by someone very close to him! I remember the phrase at it described my lad pretty well too. I wouldn't have another.
 
Thanks for all of the input on my question. Most helpful to me. Craig looks like a nice boy but I think that I need to go for pretty much full TB to lighten up the foal for eventing. I think a good point was raised that given that my mare does not have the proven lines of an advance event horse mare that it is important for me to look for a stallion that has strong sire and dam lines, to at least up the balance to 50% proven in the foal’s bloodline! It is most likely that I will move forward with Weston Justice, my slight hesitation is that he seems to throw a lot of fillies. That is not necessarily a bad thing just that I have worked with more geldings than mares.

I am going to get the vet to come and assess my mare for breeding and go from there. It is so exciting but I need to remind myself frequently that it will be several years before I will have a horse old enough to start to break and compete but I am sure it will be a rewarding experience!
 
Can't believe nobody has suggested BROADSTONE LANDMARK :), he is himself a intermediate eventer and champion graded stallion. He has produced top winners i nall disciplines including international grade a showjumper BROADSTONE LADIES MAN and of course NZB LAND VISION that won badminton 2011 with mark todd. Evan though he is danish warmblood, he is very tb like and has a very proven pedigree on both sides and has frozen semen too!
 
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My friend has bred two mares by Weston Justice, she got a chestnut 16hh, now rising 7 going novice this year, bold confident mare but a bit of a thug on the ground.This was out of a 15.2 connemara x The other is 4 just been backed lightly built 15 hh bay out of a warmblood, has started jumping proving bold, both of the mares are with a proffesional eventer. The 15.2 connie x has been put back in foal to Revolution to get a smaller lighter foal than weston justice threw, hopefully !.
 
That is interesting to know. More mares :-) it seems that Weston Justice does not throw too many geldings. I still think that I am going with him though, I think TB will be best to add the stamina and lightness. I have my mare booked into the vet clinic for AI in a couple of months. If you have any photos of the mare out of the connemara x I'd love to see them.
 
jdrewery said:
Can't believe nobody has suggested BROADSTONE LANDMARK :), he is himself a intermediate eventer and champion graded stallion. He has produced top winners i nall disciplines including international grade a showjumper BROADSTONE LADIES MAN and of course NZB LAND VISION that won badminton 2011 with mark todd. Evan though he is danish warmblood, he is very tb like and has a very proven pedigree on both sides and has frozen semen too!
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I had a lovely landmark mare but he only covers natural nowadays, think he is getting on now too.
 
Update - My mare was bred to Weston Justice by AI on Wednesday. Now the waiting game to see if she conceives! The vet said that the semen was of reasonable quality for frozen. It is amazing how quickly you can second guess your choice of sire, especially when Eventing and H&H recently published event breeding articles. Now waiting for next ultrasound test results!
 
I've just bought a foal who's grandsire is wish upon a star , my foals sure is the most gentlest stallion ever the owners 14 year old sister even rides him and the stallion is just rising 4 , seems to me that wish upon a star gives good natured offspring which to me is the most important thing of all !!
 
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