Madam_max
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I wish I hadn't bothered posting this now
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mickey
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All this petition is trying to do is to make country lanes safer for horse riders - is that such a bad thing? And if it takes longer to drive some where then leave earlier, its not going to kill you. I ride on a 60mph lane and i also have to drive down it to get to my horses, i never ever do over 40 along it as you never know what is round the corner - be it horses, dear or anything else.
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Agree. All this petition is trying to do is to make our voice heard and TRY to make the roads safer for horses. If it does not succeed then that is sad, but surely it is better to try to make things safer than do nothing at all. If we don't try to make things better we cannot complain when one of our horses gets slammed into and meets a nasty end by something haring down a country road. Well done Madam_Max.
All this petition is trying to do is to make country lanes safer for horse riders - is that such a bad thing? And if it takes longer to drive some where then leave earlier, its not going to kill you. I ride on a 60mph lane and i also have to drive down it to get to my horses, i never ever do over 40 along it as you never know what is round the corner - be it horses, dear or anything else.
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Agree. All this petition is trying to do is to make our voice heard and TRY to make the roads safer for horses. If it does not succeed then that is sad, but surely it is better to try to make things safer than do nothing at all. If we don't try to make things better we cannot complain when one of our horses gets slammed into and meets a nasty end by something haring down a country road. Well done Madam_Max.
conniegirl
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ok then if were going down that route lets limit everywhere to 15 MPH as some lanes round me arnt safe to do more then that! and certanly in town where there are kids 15mph would be safer, and how about on A roads we limit everything to 15mph because there are tractors on it, or livestock that gets out!
I think less speed limiting and more sensible driving is appropriate! How about a nice thing saying the police can fine you if you are not driveing in a manner appropriate to the road conditions? They have it in belgium and germany. They can get you if your going too slow on a motorway as that causes lots of accidents. The amount of people ive seen pootleing along at 30mph on a motorway in this country is scary!
I think less speed limiting and more sensible driving is appropriate! How about a nice thing saying the police can fine you if you are not driveing in a manner appropriate to the road conditions? They have it in belgium and germany. They can get you if your going too slow on a motorway as that causes lots of accidents. The amount of people ive seen pootleing along at 30mph on a motorway in this country is scary!
mickey
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The point is not to go to extremes (15MPH) which would not be taken seriously. If 30mph is not being taken seriously on a forum of horseriders I fail to see how 15MPH would be accepted by Highways agencies!!!!!
I am sure if you looked at statistics areas of road with 30mph limits rather than 60mph limits the lesser would be statistically safer (esp as we are talking about potentially applying this to country roads rather than the normal 30mph urban, highly populated, highly used roads).
We are not talking about setting an extreme limit, rahter a common sense reasonable limit (and I believe the petition states this is on APPROPRIATE country roads). With no limit you have not a hope of people 'politely' deciding to slow their speed.
I personally think it is very disappointing how negatively this petition has been received by riders on here.
I am sure if you looked at statistics areas of road with 30mph limits rather than 60mph limits the lesser would be statistically safer (esp as we are talking about potentially applying this to country roads rather than the normal 30mph urban, highly populated, highly used roads).
We are not talking about setting an extreme limit, rahter a common sense reasonable limit (and I believe the petition states this is on APPROPRIATE country roads). With no limit you have not a hope of people 'politely' deciding to slow their speed.
I personally think it is very disappointing how negatively this petition has been received by riders on here.
conniegirl
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Mickey the thing is it wouldnt as the police wouldnt police it and thus the peole who need to slow down wouldnt anyway.
I live 40 mins in the back of beyond and have only once seen a police car on the roads near my house and that was the time i had a head on collision. Ive lived there for 10 years!! Now if you think just because you slap up some pretty signs that people are going to slow down then your delusional, not even the locals would listen to something like that! the locals will continue to drive as they always have, which is politely but at sensible speeds for the roads (in some patches 15mph, some 60!), its the boy racers who think that because there are no police they can do what they like that we need to cambat and sadly they are right, there are no police to tell them off and even when i ve phone the police with the details of the car, the police wont do anything anyway. The boy racers dont obey speed limits in towns so why the hell would they in the country side!
We had a sign on a road near us as they had several accidents on it, well no one paid the blindest bit of notice to it, It eventualy dissapeared and no one has bothered to put it back up (i think it got hit by a tractor like most of the directional signs round here)
I live 40 mins in the back of beyond and have only once seen a police car on the roads near my house and that was the time i had a head on collision. Ive lived there for 10 years!! Now if you think just because you slap up some pretty signs that people are going to slow down then your delusional, not even the locals would listen to something like that! the locals will continue to drive as they always have, which is politely but at sensible speeds for the roads (in some patches 15mph, some 60!), its the boy racers who think that because there are no police they can do what they like that we need to cambat and sadly they are right, there are no police to tell them off and even when i ve phone the police with the details of the car, the police wont do anything anyway. The boy racers dont obey speed limits in towns so why the hell would they in the country side!
We had a sign on a road near us as they had several accidents on it, well no one paid the blindest bit of notice to it, It eventualy dissapeared and no one has bothered to put it back up (i think it got hit by a tractor like most of the directional signs round here)
mickey
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I think less speed limiting and more sensible driving is appropriate! How about a nice thing saying the police can fine you if you are not driveing in a manner appropriate to the road conditions? They have it in belgium and germany.
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So if there are no police to monitor vehicles not obeying speed limit signs, (as per your last post) how are you gonna police the fines?????
The point is we are making our concerns about rider safety KNOWN. We are trying to do SOMETHING about it. Some people would follow the limits, some would not. But is may be that those following the new limit reduces accident/fatalities. It is surely better than doing nothing but moan about drivers and take no action at all. If you don't TRY to do something to combat this problem (whether it is effective or not) you cannot complain if you are out riding and hit by a car IMO.
I think less speed limiting and more sensible driving is appropriate! How about a nice thing saying the police can fine you if you are not driveing in a manner appropriate to the road conditions? They have it in belgium and germany.
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So if there are no police to monitor vehicles not obeying speed limit signs, (as per your last post) how are you gonna police the fines?????
The point is we are making our concerns about rider safety KNOWN. We are trying to do SOMETHING about it. Some people would follow the limits, some would not. But is may be that those following the new limit reduces accident/fatalities. It is surely better than doing nothing but moan about drivers and take no action at all. If you don't TRY to do something to combat this problem (whether it is effective or not) you cannot complain if you are out riding and hit by a car IMO.
pootler
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I have signed the petition, if by doing this one life has been saved, whether it makes someone late for work or not, so be it.