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yes - well always has been for mine!

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So how come William F-P won a PN at Moreton on a horse that won two PNs last year??
 
one rule for a name and one rule for me! sounds dodgy!

I thought that - but didn't bother checking it out.
 
Well, tbh it seems an obvious disregard for a rule, other people get fined for entering PNs on horses which have won 2 before so maybe BE should apply the same rules to him.

Wonder if they realise??
 
I was going to email BE about that very result (my horse in same section..), until I checked the rule book and it has been changed to 3 wins at PN now.
 
wtf - makes my "ex-opn" more useful. slightly fairer rule than it was but seems there needs to be a point system at pn.

How does that affect a horse who has won 2 pn for running in intros? he'd be alot more useful as a schoolmaster then.
 
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I was going to email BE about that very result (my horse in same section..), until I checked the rule book and it has been changed to 3 wins at PN now.

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Ah that'd explain it!!

Thankyou
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That happened to me once at Weston, but we were honest and my mum went up to the judges box, and they said as they hadn't seen it they couldn't put it down as 4 faults! But in the final reckoning I was more than 4 pen ahead of the next rider so didn't feel awful.
 
one of the riders i know of at Aldon was well placed, and wouldn't have been if they had counted her fence down...

I also saw one 'name' rider start his SJing round because the bell had been rung, but the fence i was standing beside was still down, i had only just turned up at this point and didn't know the course, so asked the man on the trade stand behind me if that fence was in the course, to which he said yes as he volted over the rope and put the fence back up only seconds before the rider jumped it!!
 
and what vexes me is it is usually these types who sanctimoniously say "rules are rules" when you are protesting about a stop you didnt have or being eliminated on a technicality. and i can think of one rider placed at a low level three day event last year whose horse was not qulaified to be there but i expect they got round it by sucking up to BE who will say that the selectors wanted to see it run ( this is part of the rules for exemption on qualifications) but at a one star?? i dont think so.
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That rule has been changed from competed at Advanced to actually completed an Advanced event! Still think that there should be some other tightening up on this, BUT eventing is the only sport in which us amateurs can compete on equal terms with the sports elite riders. If we carry on whinging about the 'not fair' issue, eventing will end up like showing.
I for one am quite happy to compete against anyone on any of their horses, if they beat me I must go home and improve, if I beat them (unlikely) then all credit to me and my horse we have earned it!
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My moan is about intro classes and winning 3 or 4 of them and never being forced to do anything about it. I think the rule should be like PN for intro wins even though BE says there is no pressure to ever move out of intro.
I think the rule changes seem to be made for pros and not for the ordinary mere mortals who pay for British Eventing.
 
Do you think though that a horse tht has won 2 PNs is ready for Novice. At least in BSJA you could win a BN 7 times before having to move up to Disco.
 
Not necessarily but there is a lot of OPN being run now. Would take a pretty awesome horse to win 2 PN straight though.
 
They changed the rules this year from 2 to 3 PN wins.
Ironic really given that my horse has won 2 PN and I competed OPN, he is now eligible for PN and presumably intro again but has been retired from eventing.

He is a classic example of a horse not brave enough XC to make the successful step up to Novice.
 
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