POA?

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Ok, so I see lots of people saying they get annoyed by POA. WHY? We put POa on anything over say 5K. Our adverts will be in very local places and I don't think everybody needs to know how much we're advertising them for. I just don't get why it annoys people.
It doesn't put me off, although I do automatically think the horse will be expensive, but am often pleasantly surprised.
Do you prefer then to see no price on the add?
On another subject, what really hacks me off is people rinigng up, you say its sold, #how much did you get for it then'!!!! They get a short reply from me, anyone else think this is rude?
 
I prefer to see a price so I know immediately that its out of my price range
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rather than having to phone up and find out.
 
I always prefer to see the price in an advert, why be so secretive about the horses price? I actually dont respond at all to these adverts, even if I like the horse. I just never have, it really puts me off.
It makes me wonder is the price subject to change depending on who telephones.

As for people asking the price a horse sold for, that would really annoy me, but nosy people like that annoy me anyway.
 
but why? why not be secretive about price? You don't normally discuss finance with strangers do you? It's the business of those who want the horse and the seller what price it is, and not every random person who reads the ad.
(WHY means why lol)
Well, we tend to think of a certain price, and think that would be nice, but may not be certain if we want it/it may depend on how the horse is working etc.
 
I automatically disregard adverts with POA, I don't even read them. I assume it is majorly expensive or just over priced and that the seller wants the opportunity to "sell" it to you before they tell you.

IMO it is one of the key bits of information when looking for a horse, you wouldn't expect to have to ring to find out the height if an advert said "height on application".
 
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It makes me wonder is the price subject to change depending on who telephones.

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Yes me too!. Also why can't people put decent pic's on? i.e with horses stood up correctly so you can see the conformation properly. The other thing that really annoys me is not removing the online ads when the horse is sold. I'm sick of ringing/emailing after ones that have gone
 
Well, if someone is nice, I am tempted to say 'but thats open to negotiation'....but other than that, I know my price.
 
well i bought a POA pony, for less then 2k! his owner wanted a good home for him and certain things signing so that she could have him back if we ever needed to sell him.
i'm not put off by POA at all, but i do believe that anyone who advertises POA should be upfront about exactly what sort of money/conditions they want and should expect alot of calls from people who cant afford the horse
 
Totally agree, if an important piece of information is not easily readable in an advert, people will simply disregard it and go on to the next advert. Most people dont want to bother to phone up if there is the slightest doubt that it could be out of their price range. Nobody wants to be told that do they, spec if they get their hopes up.
 
Hmm, expensive to me is anything over £2k+
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In saying that i have a horse which is worth £6k but i could never shell out that sort of money for one.. ive been burned before so im biased!
 
I still don't get it though. You like the horse. You don't like the ad. You ignore a perfectly good horse? I don't mind getting calls from ones which are out of their budget, although if the horse is well described this actually doesn't happen to me a lot.
What about POA from those who don't want someone out to pick up a cheapie? I advertised the pony at a reasonable price, got hundreds of calls, most wanting something opposite to what the advert described!
Sorry, not trying to be rude etc I just truely don't understand it especially when there are so many of them out there. Is it just the 'waste of time' aspect?
 
actualy thinking about it my POA pony didnt have height in his advert either. his was a one line advert in the local paper. basicly connemara showpony, good in trafic, box,shoe etc phone xxxx
 
You say youre not trying to be rude, but you say quote'What about POA from those who don't want someone out to pick up a cheapie?'

At this very moment Im looking at horses as I need a new one and am looking up to £4k, and I dont consider this a cheepie. If there is anybody about to advertise, please dont put POA at this price range and maybe up to £6 k because it really does put people off, much simpler. Just put the price you want on. KEEP IT REAL !!!!LOL
 
When I was selling dolly, I always Put POA or no price on the advert.
I didnt want everyone knowing how much we were asking for her, and didnt think it fair if another Junior bought her and everyone was saying, o they paid such and such for her!
Horses under say 20 k i dont really see the problem with puttng a price on, its when u get big money i think its good to be a little more private.
 
For me it is quite simple.

I am a busy person and will not waste my time ringing about horses that may be overpriced the actual price isn't the issue, if you get my meaning. When reading an advert, and this goes for anything not just horses, I will assess if I think it is fairly priced from the advert before I make a call. I also wouldn't call if things suh as height, age, temp, breed etc were missing

IMO it is the job of the seller to make sure that the advert is appealing and attracts the biggest share of the market that it can. If a seller wishes to restrict their market by missing this information off then that is their choice and thereare always plenty more ads to take action on.
 
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Expensive IMO is relative.

For example if a horse that is x/y/z cost £10000 and the going rate for the same x/y/z is £8000 then the first one is expensive. (does that even make sense??????) LOL

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Totally agree, it is also dependant on what you are looking for.
15k for a happy hacker, is stupidly overpriced.
15 k for a dressage horse, is not.
It depends totally on what you have to spend and what u want for your money.
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Yes, when there is a need for privacy I agree, people expect a POA for an expensive special horse, and only a novice would mistake a £2k and £20 k horse.
 
With a horse like Dolly I would expect to see POA. But for your average horse I would want to see the price. The price is also an indicator of what the horse should be capable of. Also I hate ringing people up at the best of times and then to be told a horse is out of my budget I find quite embarrassing.

GlamourDol, did you sell Dolly through word of mouth or because of the advert?
 
Yes but two people may value a horse totally differently, so the owner may think it's worth 5k when someone else (even experienced) may only rthink it worth 3, so have wasted a call.

I generally ignore POA ads, dont see what the big deal is people knwoing what price was paid for a horse, thats just silly. Plus they dont always come up on ads when you search for a price range but may be in your price range.
 
Yes, I agree that POA for horses under say £20 K, I ignore these adverts myself, I much prefer to know just how much the owner wants for the respective horse. Though there are exeptions when discretion maybe required, and in my opinion when somebody is paying over £20 K for a horse a little privacy may be needed.
 
'You say youre not trying to be rude, but you say quote'What about POA from those who don't want someone out to pick up a cheapie?''
sorry, I don't understand?
Ok. I still don't get it. I think it is a private matter as you do get people saying 'what a ridiculous price' and 'well so and so sold that horse for that, too underpriced' etc. etc. and particularly if it is a well known animal
but ok. I think people should be considering ringing POA adds, as if it is a decent written ad you should be able to assess what the owner will be asking.
But thats fine. I personally don't consider a few minutes on the phone a waste of time. I appreciate other people are busy.
interesting anyway
 
IMO anything under is not worth the extra hassle of POA, if people have the money and/or skill to deal with higher market value horses than they will not mind the POA, and will appreciate the privacy given for such a horse. Under this, as I say keep it simple, you will get a better response, and after all you are trying to sell the horse-RIGHT, its not a secret mission, so dont make it mission impossible.
 
see with my POA pony he wasnt extremely expensive but he was well known in the area and his previous owner had had several higher offers on him but without the terms she wanted, but she wanted a permanant home for him where he could slow down at his own pace. She also wanted first refusal on him if we ever had to sell him and a few other bits and pieces! so in my case a bit of privacy about the price was needed for the seller and myself so that other people didnt feel undercut and start slagging the old owner off!
 
well that must be where we differ. people with the money/skill to deal with me should hopefully not mind the POA. And I appreciate the privacy given by POA. When buying, I tend to assume POA means someone wh wants that privacy too.
ah well always something to consider if advertising
 
TBH I don't think the actual price makes a difference, or at least it wouldn't to me.

If I was going to buy a new car, wether it be an old beat up Nova or a Porsche I still need to know what the price is going to be before I see them.

Would I go and see a nova that was POA? No because they have a market value of x amount dependant on mileage, engine size etc.

Would I go and see a porsche that was POA if I was in the market for one? No because once again it still has a market value of Y dependant on milage and spec.......

If you buy a flashy high level dressage kwpn with great bloodlines and paces that too will have a market value and people will have an idea ofwhat you are likely to have paid for it.
 
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