Point two - are they truly worth it?

Tilda said:
Can I ask quick question. One poster has mentioned it is expensive if you forget to disconnect and get off. Now I was told when fitted for my point 2 that they only go off if you jump off rather than dismount properly. I have got off a couple of times and it hasn't gone off has anyone else done this? It did go off when I fell off so don't think it is faulty or anything!
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Yes I tend to jump off
I also have short legs!
 
Tilda said:
Can I ask quick question. One poster has mentioned it is expensive if you forget to disconnect and get off. Now I was told when fitted for my point 2 that they only go off if you jump off rather than dismount properly. I have got off a couple of times and it hasn't gone off has anyone else done this? It did go off when I fell off so don't think it is faulty or anything!
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I've done it three times on a 17 hand horse out hunting (needed a wee!) and as long as he didn't move at all, I got away with it. I am fairly tall. It went off fine when I fell off.
 
Ahh ok cheeryplatypus perhaps that's the difference was panicking that perhaps hadn't replaced the canister properly! But then thinking about it I can remember at least one occasion when I forgot to unplug then dismounted and it didn't go off before I fell off and it certainly did inflate so perhaps I just get off particularly gingerly lol
 
Don't buy 2point buy Hit Air , much better design jacket also the only one approved for motorbikes as well due to level of protection - it's the same vest used for horse and bike.

It is worth it..?? Well only u can decide that - if it saves you from a bruised rib - is it worth it

If it saves you from a broken rib - is it worth it

If it saves you from a broken spine - is it worth it.?

Only you can decide what you deem worthwhile

I have one I use on horse and motorbike , I was told by a fireman when he has attended a bike accident and the person is alive he has never come across a guy with spinal Injury who has worn the vest, no vest on the othe hand spinal Injuries most of the time

So they do work.
 
Yertis - there is NO difference AT ALL it's the same vest, apart from motorcycle is supplied with a longer lanyard , I bought the motorcycle one as I have a bike I then paid £25 for the shorter lanyard so it attaches to saddle as well

Ring hit air and they will tell you - as far as vest goes exact same one but you will need to spend the £25 to buy the saddle attachments
 
We wouldn't have my cousin alive and riding today if it wasn't for her point 2. She had a very nasty fall XC and it saved her life. Well worth the investment if you ask me!
 
My mum is wanting to buy a P2 for me, i am currently doing BE100 but going up to novice eventing this year. 2 years ago i broke my ribs and did severe ligament and muscular damage falling off my horse, it teen me a year and a half to be fully right. im worried that when the P2 inflates it will hurt my ribs and set me back????
 
I landed on my back after being dumped on the road last year by my broncing 17hh-er. I had my Hit Air on and walked away. If I hadn't hacked out with it on, I would have been on a spinal board.

I am a huge fan of my Hit Air. Canisters were £15 each from the UK supplier and very easy to change. I wear hi-viz over the top of the vest and I have also previously dismounted with it still connected. Even off my tall boy, it didn't inflate, but then I slid off him, rather than a Frankie Detorri-esque leap off!

Give Hit Air a call and talk to them about the P2 installment plan. I know that they were looking at it, but I think they need to know how many potential sales they are losing by not offering this.
 
My wife bought me a P2 when I finally took the plunge and we took on horse it #3, so one of the first times I'd attempted trot while I was still learning, was out in an open field, but the big'un (16.2) decided it wasn't fast enough for her so she went for canter. I've never cantered. The saddle slipped and not in slow motion I kinda went out the left side/front door as I tried to drag her to a stop (total noob at that point).

Anyway after the bang and realising I was still alive. I stayed lying on my back mentally checking everything was still intact. And then realising it was slightly difficult to breath. The P2 had gone off, it was restricting my breathing slightly, but was slowly deflating, and getting easier to breathe.

Cutting this epic story short... there was a mud patch on the Equisafe Hiviz waistcoat I had on over the top of the P2, between my left shoulder and my spine, showing exactly which part of me hit the deck first. It was also perfectly aligned with one of the sections of the P2 that had inflated. There was no problem with the Hiviz waistcoat over the top of the P2 as the sides are velcro'd and will detach from each other with enough pressure. If it wasn't for that P2, I recon that would have been a seriously damaged shoulder (it had already been dislocated earlier in life) or a broken collar bone.

The different manufacturers will be trying to set the standard right now so aiming higher each new design. It probably doesn't matter which one you get, as long as it feels right for you.

The problem with setting it off if when not detaching it, is not about 'how' you dismount, but 'how far' from the anchor point on the saddle you go when you dismount.

Of course, just my opinion/experience... each to their own.
 
I don't have any great ambitions to compete at top level but even at BE80/90, riding youngsters or hacking out really sharp TB's I always feel more confident wearing my point 2 which helps me relax and ride more positively.

If you can afford to buy one I would.
 
My mum and dad saw the picture in the paper of OT being rolled on by his horse last year and I was summoned over and given the money to go and buy one :)
I only wear it xc but YO has mentioned in passing that she's a couple of colts that need breaking this year ;) so will probably wear it for that as well.
Its a tough call finding £400 to buy one but then on the other hand you also think its not much if it saves serious injury. I think loads more will buy with the instalment method as that's what I've of done if my parents hadn't of been so lovely.
 
I just went and ordered one from Two Wheel, cheapest i could find online at £355, Will feel so much happier wearing it i think, i ride lots of youngsters and i've had a back op, so decided to just buy one, cant wait for it to arrive now.
 
Ludoctro said:
Yertis - there is NO difference AT ALL it's the same vest, apart from motorcycle is supplied with a longer lanyard , I bought the motorcycle one as I have a bike I then paid £25 for the shorter lanyard so it attaches to saddle as well

Ring hit air and they will tell you - as far as vest goes exact same one but you will need to spend the £25 to buy the saddle attachments
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According to the websites, the riding one inflates 0.25 secs quicker than the bike one. P2 inflates 0.1sec, bike 0.5 sec.

Are there any shops which sell hit air and allow you to try on?
 
JJones said:
I just went and ordered one from Two Wheel, cheapest i could find online at £355, Will feel so much happier wearing it i think, i ride lots of youngsters and i've had a back op, so decided to just buy one, cant wait for it to arrive now.
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Do they have the horse one?
 
I bought my hit-air from two wheel centre posted above - they gave a brilliant service - speak to Jessica about the equestrian version. I got mine reduced to £355 as it's a larger size :rolleyes: :D They didn't have the lanyard until a few days later so I was given a spare canister :):)
 
I love my point two. I got it on new years day last year after a bad fall that seriously broke my knee. I wear it for everything including schooling and dressage, it helps with my confidence. I went into a shop that sells it and they tried it on and set it off, you should do that and then buy it elsewhere, at least youll know the size you need now. New years day every year point two have a 30% off sale. They usually have 10% discount at the shows, I believe Badminton will be the next one.

Ive also slid off the side and its not gone off but when I felt the laynard there wasn't enough give which was fine, im sure it would have if i jumped off. P2 do say that the metal ring should be at the same height as your pommel so it will go off, I do know of people who had it too long and it didn't go off. However I do say its your safety so read the leaflet correctly and you wont get the problems.

My friend came off my horse this weekend and hit the fence with her shoulder so has broken her collar bone, she had her back protector on but I dont really think many back protectors would have stopped that even my P2, it does make me think about getting shoulder guards too.

If you look on the point two facebook page they do deals on there sometimes. There are some videos on there too, not too long ago a british XC rider fell and her horse fell on her, it was awful to watch but at least due to the P2 she is alive.
 
I always wear mine xc as with two children and a very sharp Tb need to minimise the risks.Once its on you dont even notice it . I was lucky I liked them on facebook then got an email to say were doing so many half price.Had been thinking about it for awhile and knew this was to good to pass off.Didnt think it woud arrive as thought it would be restricted numbers but phoned and paid and sure enough as promised it took only a few days. Would highly recommend their Facebook page.
 
Stroppy Mare said:
According to the websites, the riding one inflates 0.25 secs quicker than the bike one. P2 inflates 0.1sec, bike 0.5 sec.

Are there any shops which sell hit air and allow you to try on?
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Well it must be a error - ring them and they will confirm there is no difference, its the same jacket they send you

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This cord is attached to the bike at an adjustable length depending on the horse/rider. Upon impact, as the rider leaves the horse/motorcycle, the cord is pulled and the jacket inflates in 0.25 seconds.



most likely so they can sell it dearer to horsey folks as they know they can get away with it.
 
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Yertis said:
Does anyone know what the difference is between the motorcycle hit air and the equestrian one please? it's a LOT cheaper :-) http://www.thebikerstore.co.uk/prod...ag-Vest.html?gclid=CJy1lryI5rQCFaTMtAodcSAAMA
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I have joined this forum to answer this question.

The Hit-Air YS vest is an older model which was aimed at motorcyclists. The newer Hit-Air MLV vests are suitable for equestrian and motorcycle use. It is worth noting that MLV has been renamed as the Pro Hit-Air Vest (plus). They are the same vest.
 
i at least am not offended biker store!! :-) Not sure what the mods will think but good to know where we can get these lifesavers. (I already have one).
 
I've got a Point Two as I had the money to hand and a couple of people on my yard had falls that gave them quite bad whiplash injuries and this was in the school :( . It is comfortable although a bit hot at times. I wear a loose hi-viz tabbard over the top. I've got off a couple of times still attached but as I tend to slide gingerly down these days and it hasn't gone off!

My boy likes to leap in the air when excited (He is 18yrs and should know better :) ) and can be spooky and spins around at things although not so often these days. I do feel rather dependent on it now though and sometimes wish I felt more carefree. I haven't competed for a while but wondered how I would feel riding a dressage test or doing showing without wearing it? I feel now if I don't wear it it is tempting fate :( .
 
Just got off the phone to the guys at the bike store and they are really really helpful!

Will be off to see them in a fortnight to get a hit air for use with both horse and bike and their finance is very very reasonable
 
I use my hit air in both my bike and horse I bought the extra lanyard which for the horse is a little shorter than the motorbike one, it cost me £20 I think

So yes you can use bike and horse :D
 
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