Police charge Master of the Devon and Somerset Staghounds

[Paul T]

See http://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/LocalPages/NewsDetails.aspx?nsid=6100&t=1&lid=5

What a bummer for you hunt junkies. To think they said the law is unenforceable and hunt fanatics are above the law!

 

[severnmiles]

Woah, steady speedy neddy!

Its not even got to court yet......

You should have waited for an outcome and if it was one that pleased your twisted anti mind, that was when you should have posted....

 

[Paul T]

No, the important point here is that the hierarchy of the hunt are not immune to police action (as some appear to think they are).

We will see whether they're eventually found guilty, but I'm more than happy that the Wright case seems to have acted like a boot up the backside to the A&S force.

 

[Ereiam_jh]

Quite the opposite, it's the masters and huntsmen who are the targets.

They let other people off for chasing wild mammals with dogs.

 

[AlanE]

What a curious post! It certainly shows what a twisted bunch of people you guys are,doesn't it? The sort of mentality which takes delight when someone else gets a parking ticket and you drive off in the nick of time..

 

[Paul T]

No, I take great delight when someone who causes gratuitous suffering to animals gets nicked. I think you'll find most of the population is similarly 'twisted'.

 

[Paul T]

I thought you didn't let your dogs chase deer.

 

[Ereiam_jh]

Did you?

I did make some effort to stop them once they'd flushed the deer, but I don't any more.

Thankfully the police are only targetting the 'hierarchy'.

You should be pleased, that's wnhat you want isn't it.

You don't want anyone to get nicked just for chasing deer with dogs surely.

 

[Paul T]

So you stopped taking responsibility for your dogs?

 

[Ereiam_jh]

I accept full responsibility for everything my dogs do.

If I wanted to stop them flushing out wild deer I would, if I wanted to stop them chasing deer I would.

It's ok though I'm not in the hunt hierarchy so it's fine for me to chase deer with dogs.

 

[JACQSZOO]

I accept full responsibility for everything my dogs do.

If I wanted to stop them flushing out wild deer I would, if I wanted to stop them chasing deer I would.

It's ok though I'm not in the hunt hierarchy so it's fine for me to chase deer with dogs.

You know I'm not an anti - but your attitude really stinks.

 

[severnmiles]

Why does it?

 

[loony_anti]

Great news. Thanks, Karl!

 

[Ereiam_jh]

I'm sorry if you think my attitude stinks. I was just pointing out the obvious fact that the law will be used to target the 'hunt hierarchy'. Normal people who refuse to shoot flushed out deer but chase them with their dogs instead will get off scot free.

That's how the law was meant to operate and that's how it is operating. I'm sure that that is also how Karl wants it to operate.

I'm sure he takes great pleasure from seeing a master get done for a law that other people are openly allowed to break.

 

[loony_anti]

I can announce that I'm starting the world's first Bore hunt and you will be my first target. I'll give you 20 minutes' start then set a pair of hounds on you with instructions to deliver a clean decisive nip to the knackers.

 

[Ereiam_jh]

Do you think you are interesting?

Why are you so pro shooting?

I think that is disgusting.

 

[loony_anti]

I may or may not be pro shooting but where have I stated my views on this matter on here? Please refer me to the relevant post.

 

[Ereiam_jh]

I'm presuming you support the Hunting Act which requires animals to be shot.

Maybe you'd like to put on record whether you think animals once flushed out should have to be shot.

 

[loony_anti]

Where have I stated my views on shooting? Please provide a link to the relevant post. If you can't, just say so.

 

[Ereiam_jh]

If you could read the previous post you will note that it says:

"I'm PRESUMING you support the Hunting Act which requires animals to be shot."

You have stated that you think it's pointless my protesting that I shouldn't have to shoot animals.

 

[loony_anti]

And before that you said: "Why are you so pro shooting?"

Where did I say I was "pro shooting"? I may or may not be - but where did I say it? A link please. If you can't, just say so.

 

[Ereiam_jh]

Any one who fully supports the Hunting Act is pro shooting animals.

Do you think the word 'PRESUMING' gives it away a little bit.

It means that I have PRESUMED you are pro shooting.

Do you think I am pro or anti hunting?

 

[Hercules]

In the event that the hunt staff are found guilty, it matters not. As a result of the gross incompetence shown by this most revolting of Governments, there are no available cells in prison anyway.

The seriousness of the offence is on a par with some minor motoring offences. Does anyone really care about them?

Case Closed.

 

[loony_anti]

But before you declared this assumption about my support for the Hunting Act you said: "Why are you so pro shooting?". This wasn't an assumption - it was a statement of "fact". Where did I express my views on shooting. Please provide a link.

Secondly, I said earlier today that I thought the Hunting Act was a shoddy piece of legislation. Could you explain to me how that qualifies me for "fully" supporting this Act?

Two simple questions for you. Let's see how you answer them.

 

[Ereiam_jh]

No problem.

A) As I'm sure you know it was a device to get a reaction out of you and get a debate going rather than you just hurling crap insults which is highly tedious. I'm hoping we might now get somewhere. I'm quite sure that irrespective of your views on shooting you would not support a law that says something HAS to be shot unless there was a very good reason.

B) Great so you don't fully suppoort the law. That was what I was trying to ascertain.

A question for you.

Do you think I sholuld have to obey it?

 

[loony_anti]

Very good, we're making progress. Part of debate, E_J, is listening to the other side, rather than relentlessly forcing a single point (in your case, about flushing out deer) down the throats of all and sundry. Let "listen more, speak less" be your motto for the next week or so.

 

[Ereiam_jh]

Well I'd have liked an honest answer to my questions which thus far pretty much every 'anti' on this site has refused. Then as you say we could move on.

If you'd be prepared to attempt such an answer then let me know otherwise I will assume that you won't.

Now do you have any points to make?

 

[AlanE]

Karl, if you know ANYTHING about hunting, then you must know it is probably the most humane form of control! Ignorance is no excuse for extremism! Get real and get a life!

 

[loony_anti]

How is chasing a deer for seven, eight hours the "most humane form of control"? It's cruel, as cruel as tormenting a bull in a ring, or baiting a bear. It's utterly repulsive and has no place in a civilised society.

 

[Hercules]

''How is chasing a deer for seven, eight hours''

L-A,

You are obviously the Oracle. When has this duration of chase ever occurred?